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    Quote Originally Posted by Zylx View Post
    Originally i had the idea to give a deadline and remove the remaining unsocketed gems from the game, but that idea was countered with this exact argument.

    Now, i support the idea of limiting the existing eyes and paras to lv46 and under. For the sake of the upcoming gear balances and general improvement of the game, the only way to effectively transition to the new jewels system is to manually end the scaling of the old and overpowering para and eye gems.

    You would certainly still be able to use these gems for twink gears and they would still greatly retain value. But the only way the game can move on and take a step from the past is to start a whole new slate with new gear limited to what's currently available.

    In no way should half a month of work give a player such a huge advantage over 1.5 years and 2 level caps. As the current pattern plans out, next season's primary gear should be on par with the eye/para-filled gear of this season, adding more balance to the gear differences between players. No matter what, i see the new, upcoming arcane weapons to be op well over a year from now, possibly a year and a half to two years if decked out with eye gems, which is too late to change anyway.

    Twink levels have already been greatly affected by these gems and are now made much more exclusive because of that. Already it would take years of itemization for the damage to be controlled, so the best decision would be to allow the existing gems to be limited only to these levels (more of a past-time) so that the endgame (which is the main focus of the game) can actually improve for everybody rather than a select group of people.
    1. This is a PvE based game, most of players don't even play PvP, let alone twinks. All your personal concern is related to the PvP part, but for most of us, we won't mind if one of party members has para/gem which can help the team finish dungeons faster.

    2. We are talking about the para/eye gems, not blood/fire/glacial gems. Yes, there are still a few these gems left, but they are very rare and expensive. Try to find a 'real' para/eye gems seller with limited gold these days, you will see how hard it is. When lv51 expansion comes, it won't be easy for you to meet a lot para/eye equipped players in PvP room.

    3. It is simple, full noble gem > full eye gem > full para gem. Who you really need to be worry about are those fully equipped with noble jewels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csyui View Post
    1. This is a PvE based game, most of players don't even play PvP, let alone twinks. All your personal concern is related to the PvP part, but for most of us, we won't mind if one of party members has para/gem which can help the team finish dungeons faster.

    2. We are talking about the para/eye gems, not blood/fire/glacial gems. Yes, there are still a few these gems left, but they are very rare and expensive. Try to find a 'real' para/eye gems seller with limited gold these days, you will see how hard it is. When lv51 expansion comes, it won't be easy for you to meet a lot para/eye equipped players in PvP room.

    3. It is simple, full noble gem > full eye gem > full para gem. Who you really need to be worry about are those fully equipped with noble jewels.
    1.) PvE is more heavily focused on STS's side, yet many players only PvE to farm gold to afford to compete in PvP, where all the fun competition is. Sure, you can run the same map repeatedly for seemingly no reason over and over and over again, but most of the fun in the game is in PvP.

    2.) The fire/blood/glacial gems are matched by jewels, and they aren't extremely op as the eye and para gems. Yes, they are relatively rare and expensive, but what good does that do to the middle class? There are more out there than you think, and it has been long overdue for these to expire in endgame, especially since they give their owners such a huge advantage.

    3.) If you honestly believe the Noble gems are best, then why are you defending the eye and para gems? Why are you so much against the limitation of an item that you believe is outweighed by something available today? Im not worried about the noble gems, eventually they'll be more readily available as more are farmed and will soon be more common than they are now. They can easily be farmed for, given the amount of time a player has to work for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zylx View Post
    1.) PvE is more heavily focused on STS's side, yet many players only PvE to farm gold to afford to compete in PvP, where all the fun competition is. Sure, you can run the same map repeatedly for seemingly no reason over and over and over again, but most of the fun in the game is in PvP.

    2.) The fire/blood/glacial gems are matched by jewels, and they aren't extremely op as the eye and para gems. Yes, they are relatively rare and expensive, but what good does that do to the middle class? There are more out there than you think, and it has been long overdue for these to expire in endgame, especially since they give their owners such a huge advantage.

    3.) If you honestly believe the Noble gems are best, then why are you defending the eye and para gems? Why are you so much against the limitation of an item that you believe is outweighed by something available today? Im not worried about the noble gems, eventually they'll be more readily available as more are farmed and will soon be more common than they are now. They can easily be farmed for, given the amount of time a player has to work for it.

    You cant compare middle class anymore... Since all prices got lower the middle class should be happy enough.
    There must be something to focus on if u want to show ur best stats... jewels are for all reachable eyes and paras not ...
    Look what happens with the price of nekro if everything got the gear to farm arena like nothing.
    Nothing has his value anymore, if u complete glinstone still lower level things are better than this... so what to reach then?
    Sure noble jewels are expensive but it does not give u smth special.
    I havent played to that time when para and eye event was, I defend those items just because it shows that not everyone is able to have it.
    1 year ago there was nothing to get (eg Arcane Eggs [Maridos, Glacian, Nekro] Arcane Ring]

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