Beta Guild

**Conradin** · 07-07-2011, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by mothwing

So beta testers get it for free but we dont? iDevices were totally ripped on this one.

Wrong. The cost to make a guild is 10k or 20 plat. And the best guildhall is 70 Plat. Only one player pays for the guild hall. For the rest its free to join. Therefor we didnt get ripped off at all.

**Samhayne** · 07-07-2011, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by mothwing

So beta testers get it for free but we dont? iDevices were totally ripped on this one.

Mothwing, we've simply created a guild called Beta Guild and are inviting anyone who wants in to it. Once the game goes live I'll personally be happy to log in and invite you to the Beta Guild. Or, you could join any of the other guilds that players will inevitably create with a Premium Guild Hall too.

Thanks for your patience for the beta to finish and the full release to happen.

**Mothwing** · 07-07-2011, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Samhayne

Mothwing, we've simply created a guild called Beta Guild and are inviting anyone who wants in to it. Once the game goes live I'll personally be happy to log in and invite you to the Beta Guild. Or, you could join any of the other guilds that players will inevitably create with a Premium Guild Hall too. Thanks for your patience for the beta to finish and the full release to happen.

Gosh dang i sound mean in my posts...ill have to work on that. Sowwy...anyway i totally understand now. So others get a chance once the game comes out? Anyways, thanks as always Sam

**Pokechmp** · 07-07-2011, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Samhayne

Mothwing, we've simply created a guild called Beta Guild and are inviting anyone who wants in to it. Once the game goes live I'll personally be happy to log in and invite you to the Beta Guild. Or, you could join any of the other guilds that players will inevitably create with a Premium Guild Hall too.

Thanks for your patience for the beta to finish and the full release to happen.

May u plz invite me? I'll give 20 free imaginary pretzels

**Yvonnel** · 07-07-2011, 08:16 AM

Thanks for the confirmation Sam.

**Derajdefyre** · 07-07-2011, 08:38 AM

I'd like to add that while people are making a big deal saying beta testers are getting a guild hall for free, only ONE PERSON in the whole guild needs to buy the guild hall and EVERYONE ELSE can use it. There is NO LIMIT to how many people can be in a guild, so if there is a guild with 100 people only ONE person pays and NINETY NINE people get the guild hall for free. Besides, I was about to spend my own plat to buy the guild hall before Samhayne told me not to, so even if he didn't "give us a guild hall for free" I would have bought it and all the other beta testers would have gotten it for free.

**Lesrider** · 07-07-2011, 08:46 AM

Hmm... But if someone pays 70 plat for a guild, with all those benefits for the guildies, wouldn't that come with a huge power trip? Like "do yada yada or you're out of the guild." People who can't afford the real cash to make their own guild will be at the mercy of those who can.

And it pretty much forces people to join a big guild instead of a small group of friends, bc be realistic -- who's going to want to miss out on all those perks that everyone else will have? Most people won't spend 70 plat for a small group of friends.

Not a fan of all these perks for cash. I liked the game better when everyone bought maps to progresss and extra plat was for vanity items. So everyone was on equal footing. Now you need to spend cash to keep up with everyone else.

**AOmonsta** · 07-07-2011, 09:07 AM

Is the green text I've been seeing coming from the guild? How exactly would i do that?

**Yvonnel** · 07-07-2011, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by Lesrider:343126

Not a fan of all these perks for cash. I liked the game better when everyone bought maps to progresss and extra plat was for vanity items. So everyone was on equal footing. Now you need to spend cash to keep up with everyone else.

Look everyone is going to have to accept that STS is having to make changes to afford to continue to do business. 10 mil in development cost for the physics engine alone, I mean come on, they are not going to recoup cost with people buying plat to only buy vanities.

**Lesrider** · 07-07-2011, 09:55 AM

So I'm the only one who sees this and pictures a forum flooded with threads like "So and so just scammed me out of 500k that I paid to join his guild and then didn't let me join." Or..."My guild leader kicked me from the guild because I wouldn't give him a sewer set!"

When such big perks are attached to a guild and it requires cash to get it, expect a lot of drama.

**Fyrce** · 07-07-2011, 12:32 PM

There's guilt-tripper, power-tripper, briber guildmasters in every game w/ grouping. Just avoid those people. There are always nice guilds also. I'm more a non-guild or relaxed guild person, so I like guilds where it's more, "You're nice! Welcome to our guild!"

There's usually no need to join a specific guild. Anyone test leaving/getting kicked out of guild feature yet?

**Lesrider** · 07-07-2011, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Fyrce

There's guilt-tripper, power-tripper, briber guildmasters in every game w/ grouping. Just avoid those people. There are always nice guilds also. I'm more a non-guild or relaxed guild person, so I like guilds where it's more, "You're nice! Welcome to our guild!"

There's usually no need to join a specific guild. Anyone test leaving/getting kicked out of guild feature yet?

My point is that having perks associated with guilds bought with more plat will invite more drama. If someone doesn't have the cash to make their own guild for 70 plat, they're at the mercy of others who do (or they have to live without the discounted items).
From what I've read so far, I likely wouldn't join a guild unless Phys or Royce was the leader.

**Samhayne** · 07-07-2011, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lesrider

My point is that having perks associated with guilds bought with more plat will invite more drama. If someone doesn't have the cash to make their own guild for 70 plat, they're at the mercy of others who do (or they have to live without the discounted items).
From what I've read so far, I likely wouldn't join a guild unless Phys or Royce was the leader.

Hey Lesrider,

I can understand your feelings. Probably everyone feels entitled to have less expensive stim packs and enhancers that come along with the highest tier Guild Hall. However, this is an optional, premium feature. If you value that feature enough, then the 70 Platinum to obtain it would be reasonable. If you don't value it enough, then you can still play the game just fine all the way through to level cap without it.

**Mothwing** · 07-07-2011, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Fyrce

There's guilt-tripper, power-tripper, briber guildmasters in every game w/ grouping. Just avoid those people. There are always nice guilds also. I'm more a non-guild or relaxed guild person, so I like guilds where it's more, "You're nice! Welcome to our guild!"There's usually no need to join a specific guild. Anyone test leaving/getting kicked out of guild feature yet?

Hate to double post but i couldnt resist evaluating what u said here. Before you start making all those smart remarks about others, think about the people that may wanna be in that "exclusive guild" you beta testers get for free. Just because you dont want it doesnt mean others dont. So tell me this guys, why is it that some PL players get this beta package, whereas the iDevices didnt even have a chance to try to be a beta tester. STS really needs to think this one over. I'm just about fairness. I don't care if i get the guild or not, just the fact i didnt have a chance to get it.

**Conradin** · 07-07-2011, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by mothwing

Hate to double post but i couldnt resist evaluating what u said here. Before you start making all those smart remarks about others, think about the people that may wanna be in that "exclusive guild" you beta testers get for free. Just because you dont want it doesnt mean others dont. So tell me this guys, why is it that some PL players get this beta package, whereas the iDevices didnt even have a chance to try to be a beta tester. STS really needs to think this one over. I'm just about fairness. I don't care if i get the guild or not, just the fact i didnt have a chance to get it.

Moth- Samhayne just invited you to come join the guild

. And I think all Ios players are bummed about no beta. But we all had a chance. All you had to do to join beta was move to the US and bu a droid with VW

**Mothwing** · 07-07-2011, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Conradin

Moth- Samhayne just invited you to come join the guild

. And I think all Ios players are bummed about no beta. But we all had a chance. All you had to do to join beta was move to the US and bu a droid with VW

I'd love to join the guild and i already live in the US. Now i sound all greedy. I complained and now im in the guild. Ill tell u right now that is NOT what i planned. I was just looking out for all the IOS devices. Anyway, i cant simply go on a buyung spree and just willy-nilly buy a droid since i already have a fone and an iTouch. Anyway, sorry if i sounded mad just a little confused

EDIT: Were u joking about the us and phone thingy? Lol hard to tell since u dont know peoples tone of voice in text

**Conradin** · 07-07-2011, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by mothwing

I'd love to join the guild and i already live in the US. Now i sound all greedy. I complained and now im in the guild. Ill tell u right now that is NOT what i planned. I was just looking out for all the IOS devices. Anyway, i cant simply go on a buyung spree and just willy-nilly buy a droid since i already have a fone and an iTouch. Anyway, sorry if i sounded mad just a little confused

EDIT: Were u joking about the us and phone thingy? Lol hard to tell since u dont know peoples tone of voice in text

Lol haahaha yea i was jokin bout the us/phone, i shoulda added a

. I understand completely- I know I was angry when i learned apple refused beta products.

**Derajdefyre** · 07-07-2011, 01:51 PM

I'd like to say again. If Samhayne hadn't purchased the guild hall, I would have. Beta testers get absolutely nothing special other than a head start right now, and a handful of us testers are truly earning that head start. Take a look at the Bugs forum and look at everything we are finding. A temporary software tester from a staffing agency costs a company $30 an hour (at least that is the going rate in the Pacific Northwest). A small head start is the least we deserve as thanks, but most of us are doing it not because of the head start but just to make the game a better place.

The guild hall perks are nice, but honestly I wouldn't pay even 10 plat for the perks. The reason I would buy the biggest guild hall is because it provides a service to the entire guild. Guilds are NOT going to be hard to come by and only one person in the guild needs to make the purchase. If someone wants to kick you out of their guild unless you give them loot then just leave.

One more thing, giving beta testers something special is hardly unheard of. Almost every beta test awards the participants some special in game bonus.