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    Default Can anyone explain WHY MunchMouth's AA one shots players in PvP?

    Anyone? STS trying to turn PvP into 5v5 whoever presses AA first and banishes the other team?

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    I'm assuming that it's the incinerate that does it ofc which is basically a banish, but it's probably a bug that allows it in PvP. Every other pet who can banish only allows it in PvE, I don't see an exception for this pet.

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    Grimm banished in PvP for the longest time..

    Then they fixed it ..two days after I got him......do you hate me Sts?

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    Sweet bug... and sts is swamped with Unban requests... probably be bugged a while

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    jajaja op pet XD

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    And that was the day every non-MunchMouth user stopped playing PvP lel
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Lol Zeus is taking advantage of this bug and he's saying the AA of this pet is op and is trying to sell the egg and sold it for 23m .He knows it's a bug but writing it as a true AA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extreme2014 View Post
    Lol Zeus is taking advantage of this bug and he's saying the AA of this pet is op and is trying to sell the egg and sold it for 23m .He knows it's a bug but writing it as a true AA.

    It's not a banish, it's incinerate. If it did the same thing as a banish, why not call it banish? This is why I have not posted it as a bug despite having to fight against it.

    Additionally, having to fight against it...it has a very small range (4-6MM) so only if the pet is on top of you will it have a chance to incinerate you.

    Please don't instigate me.

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    Everyone else who's had the egg has sold it for 20M+. It's actually not even my egg, but why am I not allowed to sell it for a similar price? Ridiculous.
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    Justify it however you want, any pet that has the ability to insta-kill in pvp is essentially moving away from the "balance" STS is trying to achieve.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    It's not a banish, it's incinerate. If it did the same thing as a banish, why not call it banish? This is why I have not posted it as a bug despite having to fight against it.

    Additionally, having to fight against it...it has a very small range (4-6MM) so only if the pet is on top of you will it have a chance to incinerate you.

    Please don't instigate me.



    Everyone else who's had the egg has sold it for 20M+. It's actually not even my egg, but why am I not allowed to sell it for a similar price? Ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebatthing View Post
    Justify it however you want, any pet that has the ability to insta-kill in pvp is essentially moving away from the "balance" STS is trying to achieve.
    Personally, I'm able to fight against it and win as long as you know the pets weaknesses. Ask Papa if you don't believe me. It's not as OP as people make it out to be. If you're Rambo and rush the player with munch mouth, sure it's OP. If you don't though, it has a short leash and a short AA range. Why make these compromises if it wasn't intended? Why not give it the same range as Nekro or the same range as Samael.

    Take a look at Nekro vs. Scorch, while their abilities are similar they were named differently because they had different functions. Did anyone stop to think this may be the case with this? People are seeing 3 second videos and making so many assumptions without even having to fight and analyze the pet for themselves.

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    Unless tanks can shoot arrows and throw fireballs, I don't see how they can avoid close quarter fighting. Also, you're saying people are making assumptions, but you yourself are assuming that people don't have the pet and haven't fought against it to voice their opinions? Then you went on and state you don't own the pet...please dude.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Personally, I'm able to fight against it and win as long as you know the pets weaknesses. Ask Papa if you don't believe me. It's not as OP as people make it out to be. If you're Rambo and rush the player with munch mouth, sure it's OP. If you don't though, it has a short leash and a short AA range. Why make these compromises if it wasn't intended? Why not give it the same range as Nekro or the same range as Samael.

    Take a look at Nekro vs. Scorch, while their abilities are similar they were named differently because they had different functions. Did anyone stop to think this may be the case with this? People are seeing 3 second videos and making so many assumptions without even having to fight and analyze the pet for themselves.

    No, I don't own a munch mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebatthing View Post
    Unless tanks can shoot arrows and throw fireballs, I don't see how they can avoid close quarter fighting. Also, you're saying people are making assumptions, but you yourself are assuming that people don't have the pet and haven't fought against it to voice their opinions? Then you went on and state you don't own the pet...please dude.
    I've tested the pet with someone who does own it and I've fought against many people with it. I think, other than an owner themself, I have quite a bit of experience knowing how to combat this pet. Check the other thread to avoid fighting close quarters for tanks. I've also said that I do not think it should one hit tanks through juggernaut. Other than that though, the pet is fine as it is. If it's nerfed, it will ruin the pet and ultimately make it useless.

    No, I'm not assuming...I know certain people have not. They are just taking videos posted on Line groups by people who HAVE tested the pet and making threads without ever actually fighting against the pet in person. If they did fight against it, as long as they have proper attention to detail skills, they will be able to realize the strengths and weaknesses of the pet.

    Basically, if you rush a user of this pet, you will die. If you don't die from the incinerate, you will die due to the extended duration feeble. However, if you keep out of range and use your skills/pet AAs, you will do fine against this pet.



    Quick Question: Who was the pet owner in this video? I already know because I'm the one who posted that video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Quick Question: Who was the pet owner in this video? I already know because I'm the one who posted that video.
    I'm guessing since it was a duel between Eat and Blipz in the video, and Eat died, so probably Blipz?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruizhe View Post
    I'm guessing since it was a duel between Eat and Blipz in the video, and Eat died, so probably Blipz?
    Yeah, forgot it showed who at the end of the video. My point is that video source came from Blipz -> Me -> Line. A lot of the people complaining haven't even tested the pet fully.
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    I thought about something
    not 100% nerf, but maybe none can complain after .
    when mage arcane shield is active the pet can't 'incinerate'
    when warrior have his jugg active
    the pet can't 'incinerate'
    when rogue razor shield is active
    the pet can't 'incinerate'
    what you think??

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    I like it. People admit they somehow share accounts and they admit they don't have the egg.

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    I've played a few games against it and so far from what I've seen, it's not OP in any way, I've seen it incinerate a total of 2-3 times within a few hours of clashing..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visiting View Post
    I've played a few games against it and so far from what I've seen, it's not OP in any way, I've seen it incinerate a total of 2-3 times within a few hours of clashing..
    I got oneshotted through jugg three times in a row, all luck but its too op, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Adapt and survive.
    This. So many people need to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serillia View Post
    This. So many people need to do this.
    Nope, stagnation is life.
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