Upkeep Changes - Coming 6/23/16

[Antipole]

woow nice thanks

[Potato is me]

I added to the topic not sidetracking it. Think about it, no houses, no establishemnts, who buys luxury items? The best liquidation price is 250g. Their decisions has a domino effect on us all. We all suffer from the high housing upkeep.

In theory what you say works cos nobody will buy houses with the absurd upkeep, ceteris paribus. But irl, even with the upkeep cost, some of the people on my friend list still maintains their plat purchased houses up till now, but even so, i believe the farmable items will depreciate over time due to more people already owning the items, unless

a) the item has a very very low drop rate

b) the item is limited time only.

either way, if either of both conditions are met, the prices of these items will not really be affected by upkeep cost since they are exotic, the price elasticity of demand will be fairly low.

I am not saying that it won't affect the farming value of the items, I'm just saying it will not lead to absolute redundant-ness of these items. These items will definitely depreciate over time which render them worthless eventually as long as they are still farmable (Just like how much the cryostar vanity and vanity weapons depreciates) people not using houses will only speed up the process but is farming for these items really a main source of your income?

Furthermore, to say the truth, sts like any other firms is more interested in their revenues then other things, as we can see, right now they are trying to make money out of the upkeep by using plat conversion as one way of revenue hoping people will buy more plats to sell back to the economy, rather than lament on how your farming aspect is affected, you should explain to them how they can't really earn from the upkeep they set since

a) the plat conversion rate isn't really good

b) there is really no real incentive for someone to maintain the upkeep of the house

point b is really the problem, if housing opens up a new platform for us to farm higher value stuff, things will be different.

Imagine if farming opens an exclusive map which drops high value items (different items on a rotational basis)

1. farmers will try to farm the maps which requires upkeep costs
2. non house portal farmers can profit from farming furnitures ( especially if furnitures provides buff which does not stack, and lower tier furnitures will expire)
3. Plat users profits from the keys
4. Sts profits, add on more contents to the rotation of items farmable and the loop continues

This is how sts can roll their profits and the people will be kind of happy about paying the upkeep.

However it is a major project to do, so i would just suggest upkeep be removed, sts continue to update and profit from furnitures. If sts really do care about farming aspect of the game, they would have made more effort in changing the repetitive system of events.

[Kakashis]

I agree, we shouldn't have to pay upkeep for these houses. If anything, we should be able to trade blank slate houses and abolish upkeep. Until its free of upkeep, I'm just going to visit friends

[octavos]

I agree, we shouldn't have to pay upkeep for these houses. If anything, we should be able to trade blank slate houses and abolish upkeep. Until its free of upkeep, I'm just going to visit friends

I like that it has been reduced, but anything Plat should be no upkeep. But this has just started, so maybe it could happen. But I love the concept. It just needs to be refined to be more of a benefit. I'll just keep lingering here to see updates as they come.

[stricker20000]

I support the upkeep just like people who supports loterry odds

" Keep the upkeep make the houses even more expensive please AL feel more AL this way"

How does that feel

Nice one

[Sandeeep]

upkeeps are ok,

but the changes i expect are
5-10 story tokens for 1 upkeep (not 30)
more upkeep drops

make elite bosses drop upkeep (like how elite runner chest drops but rarer)

[MayaNatsume]

Can add more additional furniture placement space as well, indeed only can buy 20 atm...?? ty ty

[dulborg]

Seems fair.

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[Sazalie Tajud]

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[crudmudgeon]

I agree, we shouldn't have to pay upkeep for these houses. If anything, we should be able to trade blank slate houses and abolish upkeep. Until its free of upkeep, I'm just going to visit friends

So... If I buy a SECOND deed... and pack up all my stuff at the end of every week... Can I move to my alt home and avoid the upkeep?!?!?!

I'm game for spending a week at my Super Lux Lodge after a week of grinding at the tavern

[Charlizey]

Im kinda late x) but who cares , nice update but, I think the house system is kinda fail.

[<KingPete>]

^^^ BOOO BOOO... I really like the new housing system, and I think its a great implement. Now instead of hanging out in the non-interactive guildhall or tavern, or guild hub etc etc, people have their own INTERACTIVE place that they can design, play with, have parties in, etc. I think sts deserves a big round of applause for this.

[saphirae]

When will you start fixing ping problems? Because many many many your players screaming all over forum about it,but i guess you are too busy with furniture and this most important game thing you just keep ignoring.

[Sfubi]

The drops of misc. house crap like books mugs and barrels is insane. I have noticed a considerable decrease in jewel drops since all the house junk has been added.

Having a house makes it a lot easier to bounce jewels between alts for crafting purposes but the house crap drops are killing the jewel drops for me.

All in all, i am very disappointed in the housing system.

[steversj]

well this is something way better ! thanks for hearing me out and other peeps !

[Sandeeep]

The drops of misc. house crap like books mugs and barrels is insane. I have noticed a considerable decrease in jewel drops since all the house junk has been added.

Having a house makes it a lot easier to bounce jewels between alts for crafting purposes but the house crap drops are killing the jewel drops for me.

All in all, i am very disappointed in the housing system.

its been stated that house drops and jewel drops have different loot tables and drop seperately,
i made a theary of why jewels and cryos are not dropping i suggest u read that imo

[Juvisavburst]

Sometimes sts is unfair.

[Espartandi]

i had 2 problems during the event 1 in the middle of the map me and my pt disconecct us from the server at the same moment and we all lost our energys but well that not the big one, after we enter again and open a portal with the doll after of enter to the portal the game send us to the town where after and not to the map of the boss blood, your gonna pay our energys and doll or what can you do about it?
IGN: Espartandi
pls we lost many energys and vigorous i need some payback or something... :/ thanks

[Terminhater]

Plat houses should be free from upkeep.

[Quangtran1996]

this housing thing is amazing like a combination in game but cost a lot of plats