Because nobody has time to spam "kill faster!" & "crowd-control smarter" when they are pounding the heal button.
Some healers suck. Some killers suck. It's just far tougher to spot the latter.
Barbamitsos, you're too l33t for me.
Because nobody has time to spam "kill faster!" & "crowd-control smarter" when they are pounding the heal button.
Some healers suck. Some killers suck. It's just far tougher to spot the latter.
Barbamitsos, you're too l33t for me.
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I agree with the first post. I was just playing with a guy who was like cmon! Over here! Revive me! And we were in the middle of fighting Bastet so we had our own trouble even staying alive.
@ javajax i have taken the time to read your post and everyones replys and i totaly agree with you, sure mages can heal, but they wernt put in the game to just be free health pots and rez people that think they can solo bosses. theres health pots in the game for a reason, and if you deside to chose a class that cant heal itself, you better get used to buying them, low level mages have to spend their money on mana pots, so if low lvl mages have to contantly keep spamming mana pots just to keep the team alive, eventually their gonna run out of pots, and the whole teams screwed.
basicly the only time i heal is if im geting attacked and i need to, if your smart enough to stand near me, you will reap the benefits of a full heal or close to it. if you run off and try solo a bunch of mobs, im not gonna be able to kindly ask the bunch of mobs that are attacking me to stop while i run over and rez the dumbass stupid enough to get killed.
basicly, mages dont apriciate being heal bots, we enjoy doing aoe and getting kills to, and we dont appriciate the "wow, thanks for the heal..jerk" when u need a rez
just my 2 cents
So true, Violentsaint, so true. Thanks for your two cents.
JavaJax, Enchantress Extraordinaire
My posts: Brief Suggestions for PL, Why I Might Not Heal You, Pocket Legends Lore, Idea for a Sample Quest, Dynamic Quests
Another reason why I hate using my Mage - you become some Heal/Revive fool.
I hate when people skip the dead end rooms only to have to go back.
Birdfy- 45 archer
Elfffy- 25 Mage
I hate when people just say;
"Heal"....
"heal"...
"Rev"...
Arghhh!!
I'm not even an Enchantress and I still feel your pain.
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still off topic, i figured out the other day how to do mega maze without any unnessesary doubling back...then i went to a group of lvl 20-30s who just ran wherever...all were warrior except me, the enchantress...i went the right way off the bat before anyone moved, and they all went the opposite way...i took out the whole first section of the map bh the entrance in about two minutes...they died in about one minute...and again went the other way to die again...i didnt even see them till i got to the room with dead eyes, where i decided to wait for them, which took about 5 min. but we killed dead eyesneasily after i buffed them, dead eyes out of the way, they left again...they all died about 8 times during the lvl, while i died once...i laughed at them...
I hate it wen ppl do that... i just run out of range.... then i heal! then i say "there"
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"Im here to kick butt and drink milk. and i just finished my milk...." - ME
i dun play as healer nor a enchantress, but i noe how they feel. if you wanna get heal stay within the range and if you wanna kite or run then dun expect them to chase u juz to heal u~
I was once playing with a group and there was a 2h warrior was not heal in time and died. wat he do was rude to the enchantress saying : "u suck, you suppose to heal me" I'm not sure if that time he was out of range or wat but my thinking was... "hey pal, is your red potion for decoration?"
well that was wat i think that they are doing their job is just that certain point of time there might be some issue that cause not not able to heal in time? perhaps cool down~?
Monqi - Warrior LVL 40 (Nature Tanker)
Monji - Archer LVL 40 (Birdy Shooter)
Even as a paladin, I keep one eye constantly on the health of my team. I, personally, do feel that I have some responsibility to keep them alive & well...despite the fact that as a paladin, I can do more damage than a pure enchantress. I see healing as part of the role of choosing anything that's even part enchantress. Only maybe a few times have I ever had anyone ask me to heal them. I watch their health all the time- even when I'm playing the tank (unless a pure enchantress is on board- then I just heal when she cannot or needs help)....
I played a game last night w my archer bear who is lvl 36. TWO full campaigns and neither enchantress was healing anyone ever. They did revive people but only when they were the only ones left and the boss had too much life for them to kill him. I finally requested a heal. First time I had ever done that. Not that it mattered, neither healed me.
My take is this- each TEAM member has strengths. One of the greatest strengths an enchantress has is healing, in my opinion...
I do however hate when someone leaves the group, wanders off to the middle of nowhere, dies, and then expects me to revive them when they are nowhere near the group. "REV PLS" & "REZ PLZ" are annoying when the player is nowhere near....
I think a lot of it boils down to personal preferences like xanthia said... And that any kind of preference for playing will work with the right team... I do think most people probably consider healing part of what an enchantress (pure or hybrid) brings to the table so if it's a new group, they should be warned at the beginning not to expect healing...
Generally speaking, a howling wilderness does not howl: it is the imagination of the traveler that does the howling. ~ Thoreau
FURRAWN 45 Paladin ButterflyPoet 45 pure dex ScarlettOHara 45 Intbear Jeannedarc 22 Mage Trickortreat lvl 22 100% pure organic chicken Christmastree 13 Mage
Excellent contributions, everyone. Furrawn: I don't know if you missed this in the beginning, but my comments were for content under level 30. Over level 30, there's really no excuse for not dropping heals on the party -- everyone should have enough M/s to make it a non-issue.
JavaJax, Enchantress Extraordinaire
My posts: Brief Suggestions for PL, Why I Might Not Heal You, Pocket Legends Lore, Idea for a Sample Quest, Dynamic Quests
Hey, Java
I did understand... For me, heals start the moment I have 1 skill point in heal... I think most people expect healing before an enchantress is lvl 30... But, I think it's fine not to before lvl 30, as long as the play group knows not to expect it... Actually, I love seeing all the differences in the way everyone plays...
BTW, Java, when you mentioned how people work through the map... I feel the same-- I never have understood people who don't do the off-to-the-side one rooms as they play through the level. They have to go back and find the room at the end. I used to think it was newbies, but I even see lvl 40's doing it... And it's not farmers... Why skip a room & have to go back ltr?
Generally speaking, a howling wilderness does not howl: it is the imagination of the traveler that does the howling. ~ Thoreau
FURRAWN 45 Paladin ButterflyPoet 45 pure dex ScarlettOHara 45 Intbear Jeannedarc 22 Mage Trickortreat lvl 22 100% pure organic chicken Christmastree 13 Mage
Honestly, I suspect it's group-think. Psychologically, people see someone run off in a stupid direction, and they think "Ok, let me save this idiot's butt" ... one sheep runs, then two sheep run, and before you know it, it's a stampede. Then, since no one wants to double back at that point, they just march on.
You might be AMAZED at how you can actually INFLUENCE this behavior by running off in the "right" direction RIGHT AFTER the last mob dies .. or even a little bit before. In fact, if you really want to test it, run BACKWARD and sometimes the entire party will follow you.
Bottom line is people look to a leader, and running off in a random direction sometimes constitutes "leadership" in this game, since we're not always big on communication.
JavaJax, Enchantress Extraordinaire
My posts: Brief Suggestions for PL, Why I Might Not Heal You, Pocket Legends Lore, Idea for a Sample Quest, Dynamic Quests
Very true...
I find this to ESP be the case if I'm playing my paladin & she's in a tank/healer role...
And/or when playing with friends...
But in a motley crew of unknowns, there are often multiple folks trying to lead which can lead to two or three different fighting groups which leads to that thing you mentioned in the original post about doofusses (doofussi?) who come running back to the group bearing the gift of a 20+ mob w Boss... Lol
I LOVE this game... So many possibilities....
Last edited by Furrawn; 06-25-2010 at 02:26 PM.
Generally speaking, a howling wilderness does not howl: it is the imagination of the traveler that does the howling. ~ Thoreau
FURRAWN 45 Paladin ButterflyPoet 45 pure dex ScarlettOHara 45 Intbear Jeannedarc 22 Mage Trickortreat lvl 22 100% pure organic chicken Christmastree 13 Mage
From level 1-40 I think I heard someone asking for heals once....
Naughty lazy enchantresses...
Last edited by bmc85uk; 06-25-2010 at 09:24 PM.
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