PVP Updates: Proposed Balance Changes PART 2 (7/22/2016)

**keith78** · 07-22-2016, 06:05 PM

GUYS JUST RELAX THERE AND WAIT FOR THE UPDATE. YOUR ARGUING ABOUT THAT CURSE AND NOX WITHOUT EVEN TRYING THEM. JUST SIT THERE. WAIT FOR THE UPDATE THEN TEST IT OUT. SIMPLE AS THAT

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**resurrected** · 07-22-2016, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Plqgue

It's hilarious how y'all know more about the games mechanics than a developer

We play their game and they don't play their game. This is how it comes

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by keith78

GUYS JUST RELAX THERE AND WAIT FOR THE UPDATE. YOUR ARGUING ABOUT THAT CURSE AND NOX WITHOUT EVEN TRYING THEM. JUST SIT THERE. WAIT FOR THE UPDATE THEN TEST IT OUT. SIMPLE AS THAT

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There was a bug that resulted in 2x nox damage that is basically buff that devs are going ti buff rogues now and basically they were getting farmed still by mages with curse.

**Anyona** · 07-22-2016, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by intrepd

Aren't you a mage? Good to hear that from a mage if i had a thank button I'd click it but ran out of thanks

No other mages like to hear that rogues are buffed? I'm a Mage and i just want balance, this buff will not help at all rogues will still be replaced by mages

Correct I am a mage. I am always supporting balance but sometimes the proposed "fix" from STS is ridiculous. More damage just makes them 1v1 kings as any hits they fire are blocked in a clash.

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**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Anyona

Correct I am a mage. I am always supporting balance but sometimes the proposed "fix" from STS is ridiculous. More damage just makes them 1v1 kings as any hits they fire are blocked in a clash.

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Look i don't even see any fix from this buff
1) if they hit the juggernaut tank he will not break so it's basically the same as before buff.
2) Curse will just kill a nox rogue easily.

**Plqgue** · 07-22-2016, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by intrepd

It's hilarious how you are talking about curse yet you never tried, ask a rogue to nox you and curse her in PVP then time the damage by 3-4 not sure if its 5 since the poison spreads, i don't use curse that much either but i used to use it when rogues were actually being used in clashes.

I play both classes LMAO rogue less now but I play both ...seriously asking for one class to be buffed endlessly isn't balance it's going to further imbalance the game but go ahead keep on while we're at it they should Nerf mages damage and all their skills especially shield and Nerf tanks HP and armor and totally take jugg out as its inconvenient to rogues anything else? Just tell me if I missed anything!

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Plqgue

I play both classes LMAO rogue less now but I play both ...seriously asking for one class to be buffed endlessly isn't balance it's going to further imbalance the game but go ahead keep on while we're at it they should Nerf mages damage and all their skills especially shield and Nerf tanks HP and armor and totally take jugg out as its inconvenient to rogues anything else? Just tell me if I missed anything!

What are you crying about? Go ask any top player in pvp if they even clash with rogues in maxed clashes, I'm not even saying nerf this or that but this buff is just not helpful

**resurrected** · 07-22-2016, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Plqgue

I play both classes LMAO rogue less now but I play both ...seriously asking for one class to be buffed endlessly isn't balance it's going to further imbalance the game but go ahead keep on while we're at it they should Nerf mages damage and all their skills especially shield and Nerf tanks HP and armor and totally take jugg out as its inconvenient to rogues anything else? Just tell me if I missed anything!

Imbalance is now and it's since few weeks...

**DAmage126** · 07-22-2016, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by intrepd

Look i don't even see any fix from this buff
1) if they hit the juggernaut tank he will not break so it's basically the same as before buff.
2) Curse will just kill a nox rogue easily.

What do you think they are called tanks for? So you want rogues to one shot tanks now as they already are doing with mages? lmao

**Plqgue** · 07-22-2016, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by resurrected

Imbalance is now and it's since few weeks...

So it wasn't unbalanced when rogues were destroying every class? You know the first three years of the game.....now it's rogues getting killed and all you see is crying. A buff for rogues won't balance anything

**Befs** · 07-22-2016, 06:18 PM

Right now it seems quite ignorant (don't wanna use a more harsh word bc rules), that rogues are using curse as an excuse, denying a buff to their class. This buff would increase the damage per tick, not the amount of ticks from nox bolt, therefore making no difference to the amount of damage from curse. I can't fathom why rogues don't want this buff.

Why in the world don't you want this buff?

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by DAmage126

What do you think they are called tanks for? So you want rogues to one shot tanks now as they already are doing with mages? lmao

Did i ever say they should 1 shot? I'm talking about rogues should have a chance to break through juggernaut, not in 1vs1 but in 5vs5 with all the damage income

**DAmage126** · 07-22-2016, 06:21 PM

it was pretty obvious that intrepd is a rogue by the way he refers to rogues as "Us" lmao

**Zeus** · 07-22-2016, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by yubaraj

I suggest you to ask twink mages why twink mages doesn't have dot skill in their attacks. And I am saying again you don't know much about curse because you are making some assumptions which are not true. If mages charge their shield it counters curse (only charged shield, nilbog maybe other pet not sure about it ) and good mages will not use curse until their opponent shield is down. And mages are not using curse in endgame because of long cool down. Area it covers is so low. Mages can deal way more damage if they don't use curse.

So this nox is certainly a buff and I hope it will not upset the balance for twinks.

Originally Posted by Befs

Right now it seems quite ignorant (don't wanna use a more harsh word bc rules), that rogues are using curse as an excuse, denying a buff to their class. This buff would increase the damage per tick, not the amount of ticks from nox bolt, therefore making no difference to the amount of damage from curse. I can't fathom why rogues don't want this buff.

Why in the world don't you want this buff?

Because curse mechanics were not explained fully. It's designed to be extremely effective against DoT, which includes nox. If suddenly nox is doing more damage, sorcerers will use curse to make sure we don't use nox. So again, this isn't a buff but a nerf.

We've already has this exact buff anyways and I know exactly what happened.

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by DAmage126

it was pretty obvious that intrepd is a rogue by the way he refers to rogues as "Us" lmao

I have a rogue and a mage i quit the rogue once they became useless and started playing a mage a while ago

**resurrected** · 07-22-2016, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Plqgue

So it wasn't unbalanced when rogues were destroying every class? You know the first three years of the game.....now it's rogues getting killed and all you see is crying. A buff for rogues won't balance anything

I Didn't said it was. It wasn't and now here is no balance as well. My main is tank and its since i play game. I had mage and rogue but i deleted it last time i quitted game. They dont cry, they ask to balance all 3 of classes and we all just see this buff isn't so useful. As for mage and tank nerf in pvp it wasn't needed.

**Deathclaw** · 07-22-2016, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by intrepd

I have a rogue and a mage i quit the rogue once they became useless and started playing a mage a while ago

ok buddy you can sit down now let the others talk ur bringing alot of false information into this thread and its not helping anyone.

**Befs** · 07-22-2016, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Because curse mechanics were not explained fully. It's designed to be extremely effective against DoT, which includes nox. If suddenly nox is doing more damage, sorcerers will use curse to make sure we don't use nox. So again, this isn't a buff but a nerf.

We've already has this exact buff anyways and I know exactly what happened.

SO basically you're mad because this will make sorcerers change their mindset and use curse more. This makes no sense since we could do exactly that right now. Also wouldn't mages using curse create an opportunity for the tank / mage since they'll receive less damage?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but right now it looks like this wouldn't make any difference with the actual function of curse vs. not bolt.

All this would do is make a mage a proper counter to the rogue, a rogue a counter to the tank, and so on. Isn't that balance?

**Shelllz** · 07-22-2016, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by intrepd

I don't know but you think it's funny? I have a rogue but i quit it so i turned to a mage once they became useless.

Mhmmmm.

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**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Deathclaw

ok buddy you can sit down now let the others talk ur bringing alot of false information into this thread and its not helping anyone.

I have the right to talk just like anyone else, what false informations? Cant you see that most of who's agreeing about this buff are mages? Because they know it will just kill rogues anyways and rogues do not want this buff.