PVP Updates: We're going live! PART 3

**Shelllz** · 07-28-2016, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by ( DAMAGE )

Rogues with a buff to their survivability would just ruin the game..
with that insane damage..
solo no one would ever kill a rogue.....with that crazy damage and them being able to outlive tanks/mages shields they would become un killable exactly like in the previous seasons any noob with gears can tap buttons and kill the most skilled tanks and mages....atleast now pvp is like the paper rock scissors theory devs mentioned before which is better than being on 1 class rules the game!
But rogues should not have a buff to their defence!

EDIT imo best way to fix the issue is nerf other classes damage or specifically mages damage so that when you add a mage or a rogue u have to sacrifice...either u take a rogue for damage or a mage for support mana etc....

So your solution is....instead of buffing one class is to nerf 2. My mind is BLOWN.

**yubaraj** · 07-28-2016, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Imback Al

First off lol. Zeus and I beat 2 tanks 1 Mage 2v3 in tdm. He can attest. It's really simple. Rogues just don't know how to use haste set intelligently. Sts gave rogues haste set to make them in demand. If you use haste set with your regular arc ring pp/arc pendant set, then you can swap between the two making you unkillable if you know how to use it.

Share your wisdom please. So rogues can learn how to better defend themselves so I don't have to hear rogues crying in the forum.

**yubaraj** · 07-28-2016, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by ( DAMAGE )

Rogues with a buff to their survivability would just ruin the game..
with that insane damage..
solo no one would ever kill a rogue.....with that crazy damage and them being able to outlive tanks/mages shields they would become un killable exactly like in the previous seasons any noob with gears can tap buttons and kill the most skilled tanks and mages....atleast now pvp is like the paper rock scissors theory devs mentioned before which is better than being on 1 class rules the game!
But rogues should not have a buff to their defence!

EDIT imo best way to fix the issue is nerf other classes damage or specifically mages damage so that when you add a mage or a rogue u have to sacrifice...either u take a rogue for damage or a mage for support mana etc....

Warriors are more killer than a tank. Why not Nerf their damage first?

**Breakingbadxx** · 07-28-2016, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by yubaraj

Warriors are more killer than a tank. Why not Nerf their damage first?

Mage survivability and damage in a team is too high. Do you really want to start this?

**Breakingbadxx** · 07-28-2016, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by yubaraj

Share your wisdom please. So rogues can learn how to better defend themselves so I don't have to hear rogues crying in the forum.

Apparently rogues don't need buffing because every one of them is either a Zeus or Imback. Let them share their tactics that make them unkillable instead of using up developer time on such issues. I agree.

**Shelllz** · 07-28-2016, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Breakingbadxx

Mage survivability and damage in a team is too high. Do you really want to start this?

You are trying to say to nerf mage dmg but since when tanks get 60 kills in clashes? Just wow.

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**Breakingbadxx** · 07-28-2016, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Shelllz

You are trying to say to nerf mage dmg but since when tanks get 60 kills in clashes? Just wow.

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I was indicating that we shouldn't start pointing fingers.

**Sweetkitty** · 07-28-2016, 10:39 AM

Maybe the team with the rogue should spam a blocker lol. Or is that only done at lower lvl

**Breakingbadxx** · 07-28-2016, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Imback Al

First off lol. Zeus and I beat 2 tanks 1 Mage 2v3 in tdm. He can attest. It's really simple. Rogues just don't know how to use haste set intelligently. Sts gave rogues haste set to make them in demand. If you use haste set with your regular arc ring pp/arc pendant set, then you can swap between the two making you unkillable if you know how to use it.

Why are unkillable rogues being buffed? Why do you want us to go back to "Rogue Legends"? What was the purpose of PART 1, PART 2 and PART 3?

By the way, thank you for helping me understand that the rogue class is beyond balanced in PvP.

**Shelllz** · 07-28-2016, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Breakingbadxx

I was indicating that we shouldn't start pointing fingers.

Yet you keep pointing your finger at mages. But maybe u forgot about the weapons tanks have. Proc kills. Frequently. This has been going on since sword with lava. If you want to point fingers, point them at yourself. Tanks are not meant to get almost as many kills at mages. Just stop. No one is complaining about tanks killing in high numbers. Why u wanna nerf mage now? It's like me saying nerf tank weapons to make tanks less of killers and more of tanks. You don't see me asking for tank nerf doe.

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**Breakingbadxx** · 07-28-2016, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Shelllz

Yet you keep pointing your finger at mages. But maybe u forgot about the weapons tanks have. Proc kills. Frequently. This has been going on since sword with lava. If you want to point fingers, point them at yourself. Tanks are not meant to get almost as many kills at mages. Just stop. No one is complaining about tanks killing in high numbers. Why u wanna nerf mage now? It's like me saying nerf tank weapons to make tanks less of killers and more of tanks. You don't see me asking for tank nerf doe.

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'Yubaraj' was the first to finger point. I was making a point.

If you read carefully before 'ranting', you would see I didn't mention nerfing mages.

**yubaraj** · 07-28-2016, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Breakingbadxx

'Yubaraj' was the first to finger point. I was making a point.

Nope it was damage. If you read what damage said and whom I quote that comment for.

**Shelllz** · 07-28-2016, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Imback Al

First off lol. Zeus and I beat 2 tanks 1 Mage 2v3 in tdm. He can attest. It's really simple. Rogues just don't know how to use haste set intelligently. Sts gave rogues haste set to make them in demand. If you use haste set with your regular arc ring pp/arc pendant set, then you can swap between the two making you unkillable if you know how to use it.

You just proved everyone's point on how rogues DO NOT need any more buffs, since you are already "unkillable"
Thanks

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**Breakingbadxx** · 07-28-2016, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by yubaraj

Nope it was damage. If you read what damage said and whom I quote that comment for.

Indicate a quote as a quote next time, thanks.

**Sweetkitty** · 07-28-2016, 11:02 AM

How can the same ppl brag about how they can't lose on this thread then go and cry on another thread about how they are paper? The hypocrisy is hilarious.

**Plqgue** · 07-28-2016, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Sweetkitty

How can the same ppl brag about how they can't lose on this thread then go and cry on another thread about how they are paper? The hypocrisy is hilarious.

Well if you notice the whole point of them asking for a buff is apparently because they can't survive not one but three mages which is a hopeless effort either way.......rogues want to be able to survive a gang....
And multiple rogues have stated they can't survive against three which is kind of dumb because three people killing one will happen to any class