How to Beat a Warrior as a Rogue (L56) - PvP Videos

**Zeus** · 08-15-2016, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Shaker Ida

My fellow tanks this is how its done

https://youtu.be/r3WGvc3g4dQ

Wondering why u didnt upload our vs anyway i did for you

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Like I said, warriors will still win against rogues even if you as skilled as I am. The point is that it's not impossible. Are rogues heavily disadvantaged in this situation? Yes. Putting up a rogue vs warrior video with the warrior winning is like a sorcerer putting up a video with sorcerer winning warrior. It doesn't really show anything interesting other than the rock, paper, scissors combat triangle.

Anyways, GG!

**reiewaun** · 08-15-2016, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Like I said, warriors will still win against rogues even if you as skilled as I am. The point is that it's not impossible. Are rogues heavily disadvantaged in this situation? Yes. Putting up a rogue vs warrior video with the warrior winning is like a sorcerer putting up a video with sorcerer winning warrior. It doesn't really show anything interesting other than the rock, paper, scissors combat triangle.

Anyways, GG!

+1 reason for rogues can't win in the duel chamber is not able to refund mana, especially when mana resources are already low when u use 54 arc pendant and seriously no new freaking actual worth armor and helm,what wars do is spam dps and wait to proc to finish
If duels were transferred to a map like tdm forum would be full of wars making drama

**Bira** · 08-15-2016, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Mucsi

My question is: how do you switching between your sets without moving your mouse pointer? Fail?

What do you mean, why is it "fail?"

**Zeus** · 08-15-2016, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mucsi

My question is: how do you switching between your sets without moving your mouse pointer? Fail?

It's touch screen, I'm not touching my mouse at all. That's why the cursor is jumping, because it's touches. As for accessing the menu, you press I. So in reality, as I said, if you want to swap, you need either a tablet or a PC with a touch screen.

If you want, I can even show you a video of swap in action with fingers included on Line.

Originally Posted by Bira

What do you mean, why is it "fail?"

He's asking why the mouse is not moving, but jumping.

Originally Posted by Blank119

it seem like the gossip about macro .is not true

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Yes, a lot of gossip. The reality is that a macro runs much much faster than these sorts of swap. I can even show how the swap is done on a tablet at similar speeds of the video shows.

**Zeus** · 08-15-2016, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by reiewaun

+1 reason for rogues can't win in the duel chamber is not able to refund mana, especially when mana resources are already low when u use 54 arc pendant and seriously no new freaking actual worth armor and helm,what wars do is spam dps and wait to proc to finish
If duels were transferred to a map like tdm forum would be full of wars making drama

That's true, there's not enough space to be able to out kite a warrior in duel arena. Like I said though, my point of this video was to show that it is possible. I'm not saying I can beat every warrior because I can't. However, a good rogue can overcome a bad warrior. A good rogue cannot really overcome a good warrior though.

So equal skill, warrior will win as they have the advantage anyways. However, when a warrior is a bit worse than you in skill then there's a chance to win.

**Bira** · 08-17-2016, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

It's touch screen, I'm not touching my mouse at all. That's why the cursor is jumping, because it's touches. As for accessing the menu, you press I. So in reality, as I said, if you want to swap, you need either a tablet or a PC with a touch screen.

If you want, I can even show you a video of swap in action with fingers included on Line.

He's asking why the mouse is not moving, but jumping.

Yes, a lot of gossip. The reality is that a macro runs much much faster than these sorts of swap. I can even show how the swap is done on a tablet at similar speeds of the video shows.

Random question. Are you right handed or left handed? I'm trying to swap as fast as you but can't get remotely close.

**Zeus** · 08-17-2016, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Bira

Random question. Are you right handed or left handed? I'm trying to swap as fast as you but can't get remotely close.

I'm ambidextrous.

If you need help, PM Zephy, Ioez or Imbaaaack. They can swap as fast.

**Bira** · 08-17-2016, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

I'm ambidextrous.

If you need help, PM Zephy, Ioez or Imbaaaack. They can swap as fast.

Do you use a mouse or the laptop pad? I'm way off so I'm doing something wrong. I'm very noob do I'm trying to learn the tricks. If you use a mouse, which hand do you use the mouse with? I don't know, maybe my hand position is bad

**Zeus** · 08-18-2016, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by Bira

Do you use a mouse or the laptop pad? I'm way off so I'm doing something wrong. I'm very noob do I'm trying to learn the tricks. If you use a mouse, which hand do you use the mouse with? I don't know, maybe my hand position is bad

Neither. Touch screen.

It can't be any touch screen though, your PC needs a capacitive touch screen (like the ones found on iPhone). Alternatively, if you have an android...you can swap while moving which is even better than PC. The reason is that android will allow you to hold joystick while in menu and still swapping. This was something I didn't find out until earlier...nifty feature.

**Bira** · 08-18-2016, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Neither. Touch screen.

It can't be any touch screen though, your PC needs a capacitive touch screen (like the ones found on iPhone). Alternatively, if you have an android...you can swap while moving which is even better than PC. The reason is that android will allow you to hold joystick while in menu and still swapping. This was something I didn't find out until earlier...nifty feature.

Awesome, I use an android. How do I keep moving while switching menu? Thanks for sharing. Can you give a step by step?

**Zeus** · 08-18-2016, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by Bira

Awesome, I use an android. How do I keep moving while switching menu? Thanks for sharing. Can you give a step by step?

Hold joystick in direction you're going. Access inventory, swap load out. Then exit

**Bira** · 08-18-2016, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Hold joystick in direction you're going. Access inventory, swap load out. Then exit

But I stop running when I hit menu, inventory.... you keep running during the swap.

Plus you have a mouse. It's only on pc? Help a brother out.

You guys aren't in the Olympic, so you can't be 75x faster than the average video game geek. What's the trick? I've been practicing for a couple days because I want to improve my elite runs but still no success. I die during the swap.

If you don't want to share your secrets, can you pm me?

**Zeus** · 08-18-2016, 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by Bira

But I stop running when I hit menu, inventory.... you keep running during the swap.

Plus you have a mouse. It's only on pc? Help a brother out.

You guys aren't in the Olympic, so you can't be 75x faster than the average video game geek. What's the trick? I've been practicing for a couple days because I want to improve my elite runs but still no success. I die during the swap.

If you don't want to share your secrets, can you pm me?

There isn't any secret...it's just fast fingers and fast device. I can show you a video of a swap in action with fingers visible...

**Bira** · 08-18-2016, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by Zeus

There isn't any secret...it's just fast fingers and fast device. I can show you a video of a swap in action with fingers visible...

That would be cool if you can post that video. I think maybe I'm doing it wrong. Gracias

**Zeus** · 08-18-2016, 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by Bira

That would be cool if you can post that video. I think maybe I'm doing it wrong. Gracias

Can't post. If you have a line I'll send you it.

**Bira** · 08-18-2016, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Can't post. If you have a line I'll send you it.

I don't have line but maybe I'll get it. Can you pm me the link instead or just post here. I'm sure it will be very helpful to others as well. After all, you posted this thread to help us but what good is it if we can't replicate it.

**Zeus** · 08-18-2016, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Bira

I don't have line but maybe I'll get it. Can you pm me the link instead or just post here. I'm sure it will be very helpful to others as well. After all, you posted this thread to help us but what good is it if we can't replicate it.

It's not a link, it's a video and I'm not going to upload it. I'm not that nice. Some forum members who've commented on this thread have seen it so you can ask them for validity.

Not all knowledge is free.

**Bira** · 08-18-2016, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

It's not a link, it's a video and I'm not going to upload it. I'm not that nice. Some forum members who've commented on this thread have seen it so you can ask them for validity.

Not all knowledge is free.

Roger that. I'll make a line later today

**Zeus** · 08-18-2016, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Bira

Roger that. I'll make a line later today

Sure, send me a PM on forums when you do. All I ask is that you don't distribute the video...I like to maintain competitive edges - not give them away. I feel like I've shown enough as it is already.

**Bira** · 08-18-2016, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Sure, send me a PM on forums when you do. All I ask is that you don't distribute the video...I like to maintain competitive edges - not give them away. I feel like I've shown enough as it is already.

Ok thanks. And don't worry, I'm a pve player. I just want to learn how to kite better for elite maps.