There will just have to be new rush tactics engineered towards the new range of the 'glass'. I admit, it'll take some getting used to but rogues currently need this.Originally Posted by Plqgue
Once again, the main rogue skills are bow and arrow based. That pretty much makes 'rogues' a ranger class. Should a mage have equivalent range to a Ranger?
Last edited by Breakingbadxx; 08-17-2016 at 01:15 PM.
There you go, a new rush tactic engineered to the increased range of ranged rogue skills on the house.
So we have to give up quicker attack skill for gale hmm I don't think so gale is no good in pvp unless you're up close so you can stun. And charged gale would take you too far away from your tanks = dead mage making it impossible for a rogue to be killed because tanks won't be able to reach the rogue and mage will be dead by the time he reaches the rogue
Well, sorcerers shouldn't be able to rush rogues and get away with it. Sorcerers are support first and damage second. If they can simply rush the rogue and make sure he dies then something is wrong.
Oh, and yes, I know how to play sorcerer. It's very easy and the fact that you can completely dismantle any rogues on the opposing side is a joke.
I think I need to start putting up YouTube videos as a sorcerer because nobody is really brave enough to admit it on forums.
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Mages will have to adapt.
As a warrior I can only use axe throw as an attacking skill in PvP because I have had to adapt to rogues on my team needing mana. I sacrificed hammer smash for vengeful blood and rely on the DPS on my team to kill.
Last edited by Breakingbadxx; 08-17-2016 at 01:31 PM.
You're a tank, traditionally tanks are supposed to absorb damage and help the team sustain. Not kill everyone in their path.
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If multiple mages are rushing that's a dead rogue but if one mage rushes that rogue can kill that mage easily....Well, sorcerers shouldn't be able to rush rogues and get away with it. Sorcerers are support first and damage second. If they can simply rush the rogue and make sure he dies then something is wrong.
Oh, and yes, I know how to play sorcerer. It's very easy and the fact that you can completely dismantle any rogues on the opposing side is a joke.
I think I need to start putting up YouTube videos as a sorcerer because nobody is really brave enough to admit it on forums.
And what do you think happens during a mage stack? There's nothing a rogue can do.
And no, a sorcerer can usually hold his own against a rogue. Especially if the sorcerer waits until the rogue nekro shield wears off...then the rogue is a one combo KO.
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Traditionally mages are a support class so their presence shouldn't remove the need for the highest damage class in game.
I've never played a game where mages were completely the "support" class you speak of. The problem lies with the rogue class, not the other two. This is a good suggestion but anyone with bad ping will suffer if this is implemented.
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Anyone with bad ping normally suffers in PvP.
You can't have played all games.
Currently playing World of Warcraft which is one of the biggest MMORPG's, all 3 mage specs are damage types and offer no support featuresAnyone with bad ping normally suffers in PvP.
You can't have played all games.
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One game.Currently playing World of Warcraft which is one of the biggest MMORPG's, all 3 mage specs are damage types and offer no support features
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I asked for your opinion on my suggestion btw.
Last edited by Breakingbadxx; 08-17-2016 at 02:06 PM.
One rogue shouldn't be able to take out a stack of mages and if a mage is holding his own long enough to wait for nekro shield to wear off that rogue obviously isn't trying to kill the mage as its one combo and a aim to break shield and one more combo to kill
If you rush a mage as a rogue, especially during a mage stack to get him to shield, what will happen is your nekro shield will fade and then you will end up being stunned/slowed right in the middle of the combat room. Please, try killing a mage stack on your rogue. You have to be very very skilled, even if the sorcerers are very crappy. This shouldn't be the case at all.
And no, one rogue shouldn't be able to take out a stack of mages. However, a rogue should be able to live if his team is covering him. Yet, in a mage rush that's not the case. The fact is once Nekro fades, a sorcerer hits so hard (even if he's just alone) that there's no option for a rogue other then death.
Lets do this, shall we? I'll level and play my sorcerer, you play your rogue. I will stack sorcerers on my team and see what happens to your rogue. After that, we can swap you and add in another rogue that may be better geared and see what happens to that rogue. After that, we swap that rogue for another rogue as well. The outcome will be the same...every single time.
It doesn't matter who the rogue is or how skilled he is. Even a mediocre sorcerer can make a rogue useless in PvP team play. The fact is when warriors and sorcerers are together, the survivability is too damn high for DPS to overcome. What's the point of DPS if they cannot out damage the heals or even live to try to out damage the heals?
P.S: You can try rushing my sorcerer to get me to shield. You will see exactly what happens...and it isn't pretty for the rogue.
Last edited by Zeus; 08-17-2016 at 02:45 PM.
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I've killed many mages on my rogue but never tried a mage stack but I don't think I would try to kill 2+ mages at a time lol
So what do you think happens? You can't go up to force them to shield. If you do, your Nekro shield disappears 2 seconds later. Even if you pop razor, you lack survivability so the next lightning will hit you and you're dead. If you stay back, the sorcerers just wait till your Nekro shield is worn off then rush you. They WILL catch up to you because sorc shield ignores speed debuffs, so they're moving much faster than you are.
In fact, at the moment...mage stack is so efficient that it can overcome a warrior stack as well.
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A tank stack is easy to beat if you know what you're doing...and as I've already stated one rogue shouldn't be able to kill a whole stack of mages
Nobody said anything about a rogue killing a whole stack of mages. A rogue should be able to survive in a clash though. That is not currently the case.
EDIT: Unless, you are saying that you want 2 mages 1 rogue to lose to a 3 Mage stack or a 1 Mage 1 Rogue lose to a 2 Mage stack. That, really, is preposterous.
Like I said, try it and be my guest. There are already sorcerers much much better than you admitting that it is an issue.
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You are tho you're stating a rogue can't survive a mage stack like its expected.... if three mages are aiming for one rogue that's a dead rogue no matter how many buffs they give . The whole problem in pvp is the class stacks are out of control . I'm positive a rogue with the same level of gear as a mage can take that mage out unless he's underskilled..
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