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    It's supposed a rogue has to win in vs almost every single duel against a mage? Cause, honestly, i cannot see an issue in 1 vs 1 environment.
    Pls Zeus, pick up ur rogue and duel a mage, i'm curious to see how many matches you'll win and how many you'll lose. Seems kinda fair to me to see you duel a mage as a rogue 'cause ur considered one of the best rogue in pvp environments so i don't see why you choose to spend your gold on ur mage to prove what you could had proven just with ur rogue.
    As i already stated, there's an issue with rogues survavibility in clashes but this has nothing to do with mages being op imho.. is the team composition and the multiple heals from tanks and mages together, the nekros sincronicity and the glinstone set of tanks with multiple pulls.
    I'd like to add another lil thing: respect for those rogues who've adapted to the current tanks and mages stacking using the speed set in a very efficient way.. and there are many out there which simply rocks and snype the opposite dps like devils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kharjojo View Post
    It's supposed a rogue has to win in vs almost every single duel against a mage? Cause, honestly, i cannot see an issue in 1 vs 1 environment.
    Pls Zeus, pick up ur rogue and duel a mage, i'm curious to see how many matches you'll win and how many you'll lose. Seems kinda fair to me to see you duel a mage as a rogue 'cause ur considered one of the best rogue in pvp environments so i don't see why you choose to spend your gold on ur mage to prove what you could had proven just with ur rogue.
    As i already stated, there's an issue with rogues survavibility in clashes but this has nothing to do with mages being op imho.. is the team composition and the multiple heals from tanks and mages together, the nekros sincronicity and the glinstone set of tanks with multiple pulls.
    I'd like to add another lil thing: respect for those rogues who've adapted to the current tanks and mages stacking using the speed set in a very efficient way.. and there are many out there which simply rocks and snype the opposite dps like devils.
    I'm already maxed out on rogue. I can use speed set too in mage stacks and win. However, the fact is that the skill level between me and the mage stack I'm fighting against is HUGE. I should be beating them anyways. It also doesn't change the fact that a sorcerer can use speed set too and destroy the opposite rogue as I've proven numerous times. That doesn't deny the imbalance exists. In the vs, same imbalance exists. It helps you highlight why mage stack is so efficient. Even 1 on 1, I can destroy pretty much any rogue I meet.

    Here's another rogue compilation clip: https://youtu.be/K0nCOE9ctFg

    Please, bring me a rogue that I'll lose to. These rogues, by the way, did not even win one duel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    I'm already maxed out on rogue. I can use speed set too in mage stacks and win. However, the fact is that the skill level between me and the mage stack I'm fighting against is HUGE. I should be beating them anyways. It also doesn't change the fact that a sorcerer can use speed set too and destroy the opposite rogue as I've proven numerous times. That doesn't deny the imbalance exists. In the vs, same imbalance exists. It helps you highlight why mage stack is so efficient. Even 1 on 1, I can destroy pretty much any rogue I meet.

    Here's another rogue compilation clip: https://youtu.be/K0nCOE9ctFg

    Please, bring me a rogue that I'll lose to. These rogues, by the way, did not even win one duel.
    Part about macro killed me LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by resurrected View Post
    Part about macro killed me LOL
    Yes, I was dying. He was so confused...LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kharjojo View Post
    It's supposed a rogue has to win in vs almost every single duel against a mage? Cause, honestly, i cannot see an issue in 1 vs 1 environment.
    Pls Zeus, pick up ur rogue and duel a mage, i'm curious to see how many matches you'll win and how many you'll lose. Seems kinda fair to me to see you duel a mage as a rogue 'cause ur considered one of the best rogue in pvp environments so i don't see why you choose to spend your gold on ur mage to prove what you could had proven just with ur rogue.
    As i already stated, there's an issue with rogues survavibility in clashes but this has nothing to do with mages being op imho.. is the team composition and the multiple heals from tanks and mages together, the nekros sincronicity and the glinstone set of tanks with multiple pulls.
    I'd like to add another lil thing: respect for those rogues who've adapted to the current tanks and mages stacking using the speed set in a very efficient way.. and there are many out there which simply rocks and snype the opposite dps like devils.
    A self try always best answer
    30m gear over here ,i could only kill zeus mage only if i dogde some of the gun shots and the freezes.
    The tactic i use on wars spam it until it procs apllies only on wars and not mages,its very effective against wars and one of the few ways to kill them while being a rogue.
    not always works cause .......its all about proc rate
    Best thing u can do on a fight vs mage is stay away from that extraordinary damage output,u drop from 80%hp to 30% in an eye blink

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    Quote Originally Posted by reiewaun View Post
    A self try always best answer
    30m gear over here ,i could only kill zeus mage only if i dogde some of the gun shots and the freezes.
    The tactic i use on wars spam it until it procs apllies only on wars and not mages,its very effective against wars and one of the few ways to kill them while being a rogue.
    not always works cause .......its all about proc rate
    Best thing u can do on a fight vs mage is stay away from that extraordinary damage output,u drop from 80%hp to 30% in an eye blink
    You're timepixie, right? The other thing is that I position myself to create distance from your packs while still doing damage. So, if you want to kill me, you need to SP. The bad thing? My nekro AA and ice will slow you and make sure you don't get back to your packs fast enough. People just don't know how to play mage...I'm superb jewels and have a lot less invested into this class. Actually, Nekro passive is more effective against rogue because the armor debuff applies far more frequently. So, if I had nekro opened...it would be a slaughter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    You're timepixie, right?
    yep lol ,btw wanted ask how much gold u spent on mage,imbalance is easily proved when with same amount of gold spent u cant kill the other class

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    Quote Originally Posted by reiewaun View Post
    yep lol ,btw wanted ask how much gold u spent on mage,imbalance is easily proved when with same amount of gold spent u cant kill the other class
    3.8M Amulet, 6M ring, 4M jewels, 10M pets, 5M gun. If you want to be picky, I can do just fine with planar pendant. I just like the green glow of arcane. :3

    Keep in mind that rogue should be beating mage. Yet, obviously, as my videos prove, it cannot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    3.8M Amulet, 6M ring, 4M jewels, 10M pets, 5M gun. If you want to be picky, I can do just fine with planar pendant. I just like the green glow of arcane. :3

    Keep in mind that rogue should be beating mage. Yet, obviously, as my videos prove, it cannot.
    Add Tavern and locations on those xd,I go get lodge and socket mm to get it more even :P
    Though on my previous posts on past pvp threads that mages technically is the best class if u know how to swap shields. Spamming isn't hard.That some wasn't doing it so long ain't my fault, only mages were saying rogues kill mages easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    3.8M Amulet, 6M ring, 4M jewels, 10M pets, 5M gun. If you want to be picky, I can do just fine with planar pendant. I just like the green glow of arcane. :3

    Keep in mind that rogue should be beating mage. Yet, obviously, as my videos prove, it cannot.
    Not to mention full noble mind(at least) jewels set up,20++m, (Often the jewels are the ones that makes a huge difference)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potato is me View Post
    Not to mention full noble mind(at least) jewels set up (Often the jewels are the ones that makes a huge difference)
    I said 4M in jewels, so that's not noble minds. My jewels are superbs.
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