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    Default Why not give rogues the buff I think they need

    You're busy with events and events, and that's okay, but balance is also a thing.
    Every time entering PvP with mages and wars stacked up is NOT balance.
    Of course mages, who obviously do not know how to play their class effective, complain that if we get a buff, it will be rogue legends again.
    But let me tell you, it won't.
    It's mage-legends already since 1 year if you haven't noticed yet.

    I mean imagine, events are alot of work.
    But is it really that hard to give razor shield damage reduction?
    Does it take so much effort?
    No.
    The problem is, if people aren't complaining, sts won't change anything.
    So don't comment below "Stop complaining", i have to.
    Me, and a few others are trying hard to show STS what's really broken.
    Heck, zeus even created a Sorcerer just to show STS how broken he thinks the rogue class actually is in PvP.

    What would be acceptable solutions?

    Either:

    1) Give the word "Glass Cannon" a meaning.

    Currently, it has not.
    Mages have already equal or even higher damage.
    Maxed Rogue can get 1,5 - 1,6k dmg, sorcerer as well, I've seen sorcerers with almost 1,6k damage and still 6k+ health.
    So the assertion that rogues have more damage simply is not correct.
    Now many will say "but rogue has op crit", lemme' tell you, crit does close to no difference in clashes.
    In vs yes, in clash no.

    So we are noticing now sorcerers can get equal damage to a rogue.
    With the only difference sorcerers are permanent on shield.
    As soon as their arcane shield is on cd, they will just use nekro.
    Means, permanent shield.
    The reason why rogues aren't COMPLETELY dead yet, but they soon will if this continues since mage shield is getting stronger every expansion (the higher the level, the more damage the shield will absorb), is because we have nekro shield.
    So what i want is, give us op damage on a single target. Dang, we should be able to do some damage through sorcerers shield. We are the cannons, not the mages. Currently we are nothing but potatoes.
    Mages are laughing if they see the other team has a rogue in their team.
    There is just no use for us in clash and that's so sad.

    2) Give us at least some survivability:

    While mages are on shield almost 100% of the time, we are getting wrecked by the entire enemy-team.
    My solution: Add razor shield some damage reduction.
    And i do not mean as mastery.
    Maybe like this: If we charge razor shield we will get 75% damage reduction which lasts for 4 seconds.
    Every second, the damage absorbed by razor shield reduces about 25%.

    This means:

    First second: 75% absorbed
    Second second: 50% absorbed
    Third second: 25% absorbed
    Fourth second: 15% absorbed

    I already hear people complaining, but remember the 75% reduction only works in the first second and then decreases every second.
    This will at least give us a bit survivability.

    A more simple way to increase our suvrivability would be to give us our armor back.
    I think this nerf was the biggest mistake i've ever seen and should have never been made and immediately rejected.

    Thanks for reading.
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    I thought we were due another pvp buff/nerd thread

    Right on cue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ssneakykills View Post
    I thought we were due another pvp buff/nerd thread

    Right on cue
    It is neccessary, unless you want the rogue class to die out completely.

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    This thread was made to discuss and enlighten the devs about an serious issue.
    If you don't have anything constructive to post, just don't reply.
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlorz View Post
    This thread was made to discuss and enlighten the devs about an serious issue.
    If you don't have anything constructive to post, just don't reply.
    Thanks!
    The devs already know that and are finding proper fix they're still brain storming so no need for such thread since lots came up not just this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmaresmoke View Post
    The devs already know that and are finding proper fix they're still brain storming so no need for such thread since lots came up not just this one.

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    Definitely a "need for such a thread"
    The more ideas and suugestions come up, the easier and faster the way to an appropriate soloution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlorz View Post
    Definitely a "need for such a thread"
    The more ideas and suugestions come up, the easier and faster the way to an appropriate soloution.
    It's up to the devs if they take suggestions or make they're own so just chill and wait for devs notice and approval, and besides your on the wrong forums area should've posted on feedbacks and suggestions sub forum as instructed by the devs and mods if so if you have suggestions such as this post it there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlorz View Post
    It is neccessary, unless you want the rogue class to die out completely.
    You really think it would die out? Mages didn't die out so why would rogues?

    Let's just say welcome to the world mages were in
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    I dont see rogue have problems in pvp , they can kill easy the enemy..zzzzz u want rogue to be the best caracter lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iulian Ardelean View Post
    I dont see rogue have problems in pvp , they can kill easy the enemy..zzzzz u want rogue to be the best caracter lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Rogues aren't good in pvp. If you think they are, you're playing your class wrong.
    I play on mage , and i see in pvp rogue still kill.. ^~^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iulian Ardelean View Post
    I play on mage , and i see in pvp rogue still kill.. ^~^

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    Well thats fine since mages didn't have the ability to kill before their arcane shield and heal buffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iulian Ardelean View Post
    I play on mage , and i see in pvp rogue still kill.. ^~^

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    I'm a mage too and I can easily destroy any rogue. Sure, rogues can kill...nobody said they couldn't. However, when one stacks warrior and sorcerer...the opposing team with rogue loses.

    If anyone has issue with rogue, that someone just does not know how to play their class, TBH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    I'm a mage too and I can easily destroy any rogue. Sure, rogues can kill...nobody said they couldn't. However, when one stacks warrior and sorcerer...the opposing team with rogue loses.

    If anyone has issue with rogue, that someone just does not know how to play their class, TBH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    I'm a mage too and I can easily destroy any rogue. Sure, rogues can kill...nobody said they couldn't. However, when one stacks warrior and sorcerer...the opposing team with rogue loses.

    If anyone has issue with rogue, that someone just does not know how to play their class, TBH.
    This is correct.
    Any team fighting in 5vs5 rather will chose mage or war.
    Rogue always gets wiped out.

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    Buff the Fok rogue understand that rogue need a Fok pet to pvp I'm a Mage an can use a Fok deary an kill a rogue (clash wise) sometimes naked >.> buff the Fok rogue sure they op in vs but clash wise I'm Godzilla rogue is a yummy steak Gg


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    Truth, rogues are dying way to easy after the armor nerf, we are OP on dealing PvP damage but yeah we cant proc shields or make several stuns... thats almost a instant death if not hiding.
    Great idea of razor skill but i still think a armor+HP buff would not be a bad idea...
    now whit awakening system all players will get a lot more of dmg so rogues will be 1 hited


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