Problem with Umbral Mass

**Fsuryo** · 10-13-2016, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Carapace

Next patch, when you use the Cleansing Shrine, it will also remove one instance of the Siphon Debuff on each player.

What is that? O.o

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**Vorenus** · 10-13-2016, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Fsuryo

What is that? O.o

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The pillar that's at the start of the fight.

**Qnoy** · 10-13-2016, 09:57 PM

This debuff status cant be remove with skill like razr,shield or jugg.. is it by design? and could you please check even when the boss already dead this debuff still stack our char atleast u die and respawn

**Fsuryo** · 10-13-2016, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Vorenus

The pillar that's at the start of the fight.

Im still at acolyte btw, but thx

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**Zaocajede** · 10-13-2016, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by Carapace

One of his mechanics is not working properly. Next patch, when you use the Cleansing Shrine, it will also remove one instance of the Siphon Debuff on each player. This is one way players can help manage his health recovery and also damage dealt to players. His movement speed will also be reduced a little bit more, and his spacing wil be a little more lenient to prevent him running too far too fast and into leash territory. His leash will be adjusted to give a little more recovery room if he starts to beeline down the hallway.

Some other things of note:
The frequency of his Siphon is faster the more party members are fighting him in order to help balance the encounter. The fight already works this way.

I tried using nilbog to remove the debuff and it doesn't appear to be working.

Is this a bug or as intended?

Thanks

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**Zaocajede** · 10-13-2016, 10:56 PM

Double post

**Qnoy** · 10-13-2016, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by Zaocajede

I tried using nilbog to remove the debuff and it doesn't appear to be working.

Is this a bug or as intended?

Thanks

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Nice catch.. we need some clarification here, oh and planar pendant crystal proc pick up from mage seems not remove the debuff as well

**eugene9707** · 10-13-2016, 11:23 PM

also, gale doesn't seems to remove the debuff as well as the dot damage from the boss .....

despite saying "remove ANY negative effect on the sorcerer "

**Vvildfire** · 10-14-2016, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Carapace

One of his mechanics is not working properly. Next patch, when you use the Cleansing Shrine, it will also remove one instance of the Siphon Debuff on each player. This is one way players can help manage his health recovery and also damage dealt to players. His movement speed will also be reduced a little bit more, and his spacing wil be a little more lenient to prevent him running too far too fast and into leash territory. His leash will be adjusted to give a little more recovery room if he starts to beeline down the hallway.

Some other things of note:
The frequency of his Siphon is faster the more party members are fighting him in order to help balance the encounter. The fight already works this way.

Thank you!

**Fsuryo** · 10-14-2016, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by eugene9707

also, gale doesn't seems to remove the debuff as well as the dot damage from the boss .....

despite saying "remove ANY negative effect on the sorcerer "

Ofc shield too xD

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**Kenzou** · 10-14-2016, 12:48 AM

I think the trick is there should be atleast one person that stands on the entrance of the room near the pillar so he wont reset
Umbral avoids us so he will walk away from us

**eugene9707** · 10-14-2016, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Fsuryo

Ofc shield too xD

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shield only remove freeze, snare, stun and bleed xD

so slightly different :P

(for example, gale remove debuff, curse and other stuff too)

**Fsuryo** · 10-14-2016, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by eugene9707

shield only remove freeze, snare, stun and bleed xD

so slightly different

(for example, gale remove debuff, curse and other stuff too)

Meh you're right xD

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**Ardbeg** · 10-14-2016, 01:10 AM

Stay in the middle and use axe throw and pull pets. Focus on aoe Damage as Tank (i.e. old Aegis to help get the mobs out of the way). If possible, use haste set to catch him.

**ilhanna** · 10-14-2016, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by Ardbeg

Stay in the middle and use axe throw and pull pets. Focus on aoe Damage as Tank (i.e. old Aegis to help get the mobs out of the way). If possible, use haste set to catch him.

But wouldn't the speed debuff override the set bonus?

**Avaree** · 10-14-2016, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Ardbeg

Stay in the middle and use axe throw and pull pets. Focus on aoe Damage as Tank (i.e. old Aegis to help get the mobs out of the way). If possible, use haste set to catch him.

^^this^^
Also staying near the gates with party spread out some helps keep the boss in the boss room. That boss does not like players close, players can drive him out, either by pushing or pulling. (Balance is the key)
Also this boss is bugged atm.

Originally Posted by Carapace

One of his mechanics is not working properly. Next patch, when you use the Cleansing Shrine, it will also remove one instance of the Siphon Debuff on each player. This is one way players can help manage his health recovery and also damage dealt to players. His movement speed will also be reduced a little bit more, and his spacing wil be a little more lenient to prevent him running too far too fast and into leash territory. His leash will be adjusted to give a little more recovery room if he starts to beeline down the hallway.

Some other things of note:
The frequency of his Siphon is faster the more party members are fighting him in order to help balance the encounter. The fight already works this way.

Originally Posted by ilhanna

But wouldn't the speed debuff override the set bonus?

We use the leg dusk gears in the mausoleum, no set bonus to disrupt, yet

**Zaocajede** · 10-14-2016, 07:49 AM

I've only fought mass a handful of times but what's worked for me is standing on top of it using immo bow.

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**Carapace** · 10-14-2016, 10:26 AM

To clarify, his Siphon Debuff is designed to not be removed by any other means. Having said that, good catch in that when the boss is defeated the siphons still exist, I will have that addressed for next week as well

**nightmaresmoke** · 10-14-2016, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Carapace

To clarify, his Siphon Debuff is designed to not be removed by any other means. Having said that, good catch in that when the boss is defeated the siphons still exist, I will have that addressed for next week as well

Off topic what about the new bows dusk and light is that design not to auto aim or bug?

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**Saud** · 10-14-2016, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Carapace

To clarify, his Siphon Debuff is designed to not be removed by any other means. Having said that, good catch in that when the boss is defeated the siphons still exist, I will have that addressed for next week as well

I like the speed debuff
It's challenging, annoying but fun xD