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    Quote Originally Posted by CHINDUSTER View Post
    Is it? Guess I am one to you then, sorry.

    You've fought my bear, bird, and mage though.

    Okay.

    It was a troll. I called it a troll. What did I not understand?

    This is a game, not a sport. 5-3 doubled is 10-6.

    Hypocrisy? In what way?

    You literally contradicted yourself here. You say I own a 56 pally, then you say I have no mage. Make up your mind! If anything I am the most capable for advice as you do not play "tank" mages, obviously.

    For 9 drain? Duh.

    Either way Danny would beat u in 1v1 on mage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mothwing View Post
    ???????????????

    You could say yes or no.



    Yeah then you get demolished when you run out of mana
    That was bullying? Interesting.

    But it'll take longer to run out of mana, that's the point you're missing.
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    Do you honestly think a mage with 0 nightmare is going to get a single kill?
    Yes, I do, I also believe it tanks better as that is the purpose of it. (Understand yet?)
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    Rofl, exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHINDUSTER View Post
    Is it? Guess I am one to you then, sorry.

    You've fought my bear, bird, and mage though.

    Okay.

    It was a troll. I called it a troll. What did I not understand?

    This is a game, not a sport. 5-3 doubled is 10-6.

    Hypocrisy? In what way?

    You literally contradicted yourself here. You say I own a 56 pally, then you say I have no mage. Make up your mind! If anything I am the most capable for advice as you do not play "tank" mages, obviously.

    For 9 drain? Duh.
    Owning a class =/= playing it. For example, I never see you on your 56 pally or your 51 platinum talon bird. Nor do I see your 80 mage to back up all of your "mage knowledge".

    Ah, so the rules of scoring change depending on what you're playing, makes sense.

    Tank mage at 80 means pure nuke mage, considering Magor has 40 something dodge. Tanking and nuking go hand in hand, please understand that.

    But you said earlier having high armor is equivalent to high dodge, which is the most important stat. If that's the case then who needs damage or heal capabilities?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CHINDUSTER View Post
    That was bullying? Interesting.

    But it'll take longer to run out of mana, that's the point you're missing.

    Yes, I do, I also believe it tanks better as that is the purpose of it. (Understand yet?)

    ?
    Who exactly is your mage?

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    Chin, you would get absolutely destroyed with that build lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suh View Post
    Either way Danny would beat u in 1v1 on mage
    If Harry cannot beat my mage, Danny will not beat my mage. I have levels 45 and 56, Danny can choose one if he'd like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHINDUSTER View Post
    Yes, I do
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHINDUSTER View Post
    If Harry cannot beat my mage, Danny will not beat my mage. I have levels 45 and 56, Danny can choose one if he'd like.
    Which Harry r u talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHINDUSTER View Post
    If Harry cannot beat my mage, Danny will not beat my mage. I have levels 45 and 56, Danny can choose one if he'd like.
    But...I beat Harry at 66.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CHINDUSTER View Post
    If Harry cannot beat my mage, Danny will not beat my mage. I have levels 45 and 56, Danny can choose one if he'd like.
    You haven't yet addressed the reply I left you, I'd like your opinion on it please. My initial suggestion is still better than your suggestion in terms of tanking, and my other suggestion is the best of all if you choose to kite.

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    Also, I'm starting to think including nightmare is more beneficial even for tanking, as it gives your hit/dmg debuffs a higher chance of hitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mothwing View Post
    Owning a class =/= playing it. For example, I never see you on your 56 pally or your 51 platinum talon bird. Nor do I see your 80 mage to back up all of your "mage knowledge".

    Ah, so the rules of scoring change depending on what you're playing, makes sense.

    Tank mage at 80 means pure nuke mage, considering Magor has 40 something dodge. Tanking and nuking go hand in hand, please understand that.

    But you said earlier having high armor is equivalent to high dodge, which is the most important stat. If that's the case then who needs damage or heal capabilities?
    Sorry you posted a lot of gibberish, please revise your paragraphs.

    Tanking is not the same as Nuking. That's like saying Pure Str is the same as Pure Dex.

    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    Chin, you would get absolutely destroyed with that build lol.
    Who says I would use that build? Tanking is relatively hard at endgame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHINDUSTER View Post
    Tanking is not the same as Nuking.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mothwing View Post
    Tanking and nuking go hand in hand
    ?????????????????

    Quote Originally Posted by CHINDUSTER View Post
    Do you even read?
    The same =/= hand in hand, just to clear that up for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CHINDUSTER View Post
    Sorry you posted a lot of gibberish, please revise your paragraphs.

    Tanking is not the same as Nuking. That's like saying Pure Str is the same as Pure


    Who says I would use that build? Tanking is relatively hard at endgame.
    Lol if you say tanking is not the same as nuking in endgame for mage then you clearly don't know anything about endgame.... Idk y you are even talking here Devon.. Even your only mage is a pally. Talk to us when you can actually play INT for once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHINDUSTER View Post

    Who says I would use that build? Tanking is relatively hard at endgame.
    You mustn't understand the PL lingo of "tanking" then, because otherwise your entire argument is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHINDUSTER View Post
    Who says I would use that build? Tanking is relatively hard at endgame.
    So why post a build you wouldn't use? I thought trolling was bad?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mothwing View Post
    So why post a build you wouldn't use? I thought trolling was bad?
    Because he's saying it could be a viable option if you're trying to be "tankiest"; by using weakness, you reduce damage of opponents to minimize damage you and others receive.

    Still, though, he doesn't understand an "effective" tank in PL would not use this build, that 9 weakness is just dumb and that you're better off tanking with 9 nightmare. But what do I know, I just twink on my bear, I don't even play end game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    Because he's saying it could be a viable option if you're trying to be "tankiest".

    Still, though, he doesn't understand an "effective" tank in PL would not use this build.
    I'm just saying if he were to use a tank mage, he wouldn't use that build. I mean he clearly wouldn't use a pure 80 mage if he has a 56 pally.

    And I agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CHINDUSTER View Post
    Sorry you posted a lot of gibberish, please revise your paragraphs.

    Tanking is not the same as Nuking. That's like saying Pure Str is the same as Pure Dex.



    Who says I would use that build? Tanking is relatively hard at endgame.
    I've thought about it more, this is it. This is as good as tanking gets. (If you're kiting like you say)

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    Weakness > BoM, you need your debuffs to hit, losing a few damage on your drain isn't as significant as reducing the opponents dodge slightly so you can land a few more debuffs. If you have a logical refutation to this then please provide it. I really want to see how you think your initial build is better than this one. Remember, this is tanking, BoM is purely offense and doesn't help tanking at all (besides the slight boost to your drain which will heal you more, but debuffs are way more important than that).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mothwing View Post
    I'm just saying if he were to use a tank mage, he wouldn't use that build. I mean he clearly wouldn't use a pure 80 mage if he has a 56 pally.

    And I agree.
    Yeah, my point exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suh View Post
    Lol if you say tanking is not the same as nuking in endgame for mage then you clearly don't know anything about endgame.... Idk y you are even talking here Devon.. Even your only mage is a pally. Talk to us when you can actually play INT for once.
    My mage ceased being a paladin a while ago, it was changed about a month ago to Pure Dex. I've played Pure Dex, Str/Dex, Str/Int, Pure Int, and Half Int/Dex Mage. You speak as if I've never tested or tried different things which is quite odd, since you do not know me nor ever played me except in Endgame(Which is the only thing you do as you told me?).

    You're not of my concern. My corcern is providing the OP with a competent build that fits his liking. Pure STR will never be the same as Pure DEX, so I found it astounding how you argue it to be. I've played endgame for quite a while, so I believe my advice is irrefutable, you've yet to provide concrete reasoning. In fact, out of all of you, Xyzther is the one giving me the most noteworthy replies.

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