Eggstravaganza 2.0

[octavos]

Of all seasons, this season stats are no excuse. The legendary gear gives plenty of armor for just a few K, more than enough to run all open maps so far.

pets make they gear, if they didn't they wouldn't be worth the millions that are XD. this seasons stats are ok to run new maps..considering many threads here are about how dead mages are bad...and how many times you die in these new maps. better pets for players helps with bad gear.

I started up a new toon, with zero gold, capped relatively quickly (took about two or three weeks, mainly via the Daily XP quests). Saved up enough gold to buy lv60/61 endgame gear, and even though most of it is still ungemmed, I feel that I am capable enough to grind it out with any kind of party.

I have no issue with plat buyers slingshotting their way to the best gear/items....afterall, it is your hard earned cash that gets you there. My point is that there is also a lot of players, good players, that can't/won't use plat and need a way to get to the top through effort alone.

Gaming is like a triangle, you can get to the top in one of three ways. Purchase your way there, grind your way there or get lucky.

Right now, grinding isn't viable as it isn't income positive.

Lucky...but, lucky on what? Arena crates and fossils? Get a Balanced Scale or Husk armor? Sure, I suppose you could get lucky and loot one, but the odds are so stacked against you that it really isn't viable either.

This leaves purchasing as your primary way to get to the top, and that's what I have an issue with. KnK eggs are a good example. How much farming would it take to save up the gold needed to buy KnK from someone that popped locked crates? Even the more pedestrian pets like Nightshade are getting priced beyond the reach of your average mobile gamers (those that can't commit endless hours to grinding).

That's why there should be a mechanism that slowly introduces these types of things into the game, because eggs are a consumable commodity. Each new player that starts the game and opens an egg reduces the total egg inventory. If demand stays the same and inventory becomes scarce, prices go up and fewer and fewer people can afford it, resulting in an increasing concentration of wealth. With steady introduction of inventory, it puts a ceiling on pricing and stops the price escalation spiral. Demand alone will put a floor on pricing, leaving a manageable value range to work with when farming.

If I knew that after 20 Mauso IV runs, I could get to roll for an egg (via a quest), at least it puts a carrot out there for me to chase. But, if the only valuable drops that are out there continue to have lol drop rates, well....that doesn't really motivate anyone either.

Now that's a response . but as a "quest" im saying it makes it worse. this would open the flood gates and make the pets really worthless..even if there is a carrot to chase lol. imagine Nightshade worth as much as dearys...lol..sure ok. lets do it.

lets say we went with this idea...how would it play out... An event that lasts only a weekend would only do this for a short time.
as for making your quest proposal, this will make legendary really cheap..and mythic/arcane skyrocket because chances of you getting something that valuable will be like a fossil in the arena chests XD, more so if its a guaranteed egg from the quest.

[Ardbeg]

pets make they gear, if they didn't they wouldn't be worth the millions that are XD. this seasons stats are ok to run new maps..considering many threads here are about how dead mages are bad...and how many times you die in these new maps. better pets for players helps with bad gear.



Now that's a response . but as a "quest" im saying it makes it worse. this would open the flood gates and make the pets really worthless..even if there is a carrot to chase lol. imagine Nightshade worth as much as dearys...lol..sure ok. lets do it.

lets say we went with this idea...how would it play out... An event that lasts only a weekend would only do this for a short time.
as for making your quest proposal, this will make legendary really cheap..and mythic/arcane skyrocket because chances of you getting something that valuable will be like a fossil in the arena chests XD, more so if its a guaranteed egg from the quest.

1)There are a lot of possibilities for a very cheap pet setup to circumvent the course mage deaths with pets on budget... since pet prices did not recover from last eggstravaganza. Look at any Course mage thread for help on this.

2) Do you really argue here (without knowing the specific implementation) that a *constructed* quest system to limit steady influx of eggs in lower dungeons f.e. would somehow flush the market with legendaries, but let mythics/arcanes skyrocket? What we are asking/proposing here is to adjust the limit of influx to the economical needs, to make farming worthwhile, no less, no more. How can you declare it failed in advance? What about last eggstravaganza, uhm, did it not somehow kill all market?

[octavos]

1)There are a lot of possibilities for a very cheap pet setup to circumvent the course mage deaths with pets on budget... since pet prices did not recover from last eggstravaganza. Look at any Course mage thread for help on this.

2) Do you really argue here (without knowing the specific implementation) that a *constructed* quest system to limit steady influx of eggs in lower dungeons f.e. would somehow flush the market with legendaries, but let mythics/arcanes skyrocket? What we are asking/proposing here is to adjust the limit of influx to the economical needs, to make farming worthwhile, no less, no more. How can you declare it failed in advance? What about last eggstravaganza, uhm, did it not somehow kill all market?

1). i can look, but that doesn't mean everyone else in the game does.

2) what i'm asking is a few days..and we move on lol. I don't argue, just saying what I have seen in all the years I have been playing STS games. if all the players were to do the missions the majority would receive rare/legendary..it would kill that market for those even more..and make those arcane/mythic lose value faster. what many here can also agree with is just having a few days...not a whole year. as far as killing the last market with this event..it just flushed out the hoarders..and made the pets more reasonable for gold. if these pets were vanity's and didn't have stats I would careless. But pets play a huge part of success in AL.

a constructed system with a player with many alts should help with farming these pets, maybe we can do away with this 2.0..and have a quest...ok..im all up for it.
are you mad..you seem mad lol. I can give u a hug.

[Avaree]

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a constructed system with a player with many alts........ .

^^ that there is one reason why I am against this. Players with multiple devices could have exploited the last egg thief. I saw one player not too long ago state he/she can run 13 toons at one time. So among many other reasons, and this too, no thank you to a random spawning, egg dropping boss.

[nightmaresmoke]

^^ that there is one reason why I am against this. Players with multiple devices could have exploited the last egg thief. I saw one player not too long ago state they can run 13 toons at one time. So among many other reasons, and this too, no thank you to a random spawning, egg dropping boss.

It's just crazy to think there are crazy people out there i barley can maintain one toon let alone thirteen omg lol

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

[Avaree]

^^ that there is one reason why I am against this. Players with multiple devices could have exploited the last egg thief. I saw one player not too long ago state he/she can run 13 toons at one time. So among many other reasons, and this too, no thank you to a random spawning, egg dropping boss.



It's just crazy to think there are crazy people out there i barley can maintain one toon let alone thirteen omg lol

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

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[nightmaresmoke]

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Omg shock lol 😮

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

[Ardbeg]

1). i can look, but that doesn't mean everyone else in the game does.

2) what i'm asking is a few days..and we move on lol. I don't argue, just saying what I have seen in all the years I have been playing STS games. if all the players were to do the missions the majority would receive rare/legendary..it would kill that market for those even more..and make those arcane/mythic lose value faster. what many here can also agree with is just having a few days...not a whole year. as far as killing the last market with this event..it just flushed out the hoarders..and made the pets more reasonable for gold. if these pets were vanity's and didn't have stats I would careless. But pets play a huge part of success in AL.

a constructed system with a player with many alts should help with farming these pets, maybe we can do away with this 2.0..and have a quest...ok..im all up for it.
are you mad..you seem mad lol. I can give u a hug.

I am not mad at all, save your hugs please!

My viewpoint is that of someone who loves to play pve with friends. Yes, we run these maps and enjoy it. And i have always advocated to have several tiers of rewards for running elites. From the lowest income to make up for the loss in ankhs to middle tier drops like legendary eggs for example till the highest tier, banished, antignome, mythics, arcanes,...

My idea is, elite farming should generally generate income with the occasional medium and rare big bump.

But since the first thief event i see a culture here on forum to just campaign for the next free thing, coming from players who can't be bothered to run these maps to achieve things. And sorry, as long as i am here i will give my feedback to this and try to keep farming worthwhile outside of events (and i am very happy we have knowledgeable players like Goodsyntax again on forum to explain in details what's wrong with farming now).

[octavos]

^^ that there is one reason why I am against this. Players with multiple devices could have exploited the last egg thief. I saw one player not too long ago state they can run 13 toons at one time. So among many other reasons, and this too, no thank you to a random spawning, egg dropping boss.

now imagine if there was a quest like this...and i have quite a few alts (15-20)all they would have to do daily/weekly is a quest. for the pets of AL. if the quest didn't give an egg to sell..that would be perfect.

I am not mad at all, save your hugs please!

My viewpoint is that of someone who loves to play pve with friends. Yes, we run these maps and enjoy it. And i have always advocated to have several tiers of rewards for running elites. From the lowest income to make up for the loss in ankhs to middle tier drops like legendary eggs for example till the highest tier, banished, antignome, mythics, arcanes,...

My idea is, elite farming should generally generate income with the occasional medium and rare big bump.

But since the first thief event i see a culture here on forum to just campaign for the next free thing, coming from players who can't be bothered to run these maps to achieve things. And sorry, as long as i am here i will give my feedback to this and try to keep farming worthwhile outside of events (and i am very happy we have knowledgeable players like Goodsyntax again on forum to explain in details what's wrong with farming now).

my view is for low end players (with family's and no real time to devote to farming), and always will be. Farming isn't bad...its that things get outdated and are not useful for new caps. But adding a "quest" to make this permanent would make things worse. If an event can help these players faster im all up for it. maybe better parties...but meh its all about the gold lol

[Ardbeg]

now imagine if there was a quest like this...and i have quite a few alts (15-20)all they would have to do daily/weekly is a quest.



my view is for low end players (with family's and no real time to devote to farming), and always will be. Farming isn't bad...its that things get outdated and are not useful for new caps. But adding a "quest" to make this permanent would make things worse. If an event can help these players faster im all up for it.

1) Quest is only an example, imagine a quest involving 20 mausoleum 5 bosses. You probably could do them in 24h on all alts, but then i would say you deserve all loot. It s just a matter of picking the right quest / mode of distribution.

2) MMOs are here to grind together. It is debatable to what extend on a mobile, but take a look at the current community goal and you will find out it is not for casuals this season at least. I have no problem at all with the argument there should be rewards for all tiers of players (lots of events did that great.) But i will always advocate for pve elite farming as one vital half of the game. And it is an Mmo, not a match 3 puzzler you pick up and drop within minutes.

[octavos]

If you want to grind a quest on all your alts go for it, I was referring to the egg thief that dropped an egg for every player at once, no matter wha, it dropped an egg x 4, one for all party mates.





Look at the prices now of the pets that are dropped by mobs, bosses, bought with tokens.
E.g, Breeze egg now 124.9k- was 350k+ before the eggstravaganza.

There are quarterly events that offer good eggs by reaching a certain tier, purchase with event tokens, and or boss drops already.

yup, and i love it..no disagreement with you there.

1) Quest is only an example, imagine a quest involving 20 mausoleum 5 bosses. You probably could do them in 24h on all alts, but then i would say you deserve all loot. It s just a matter of picking the right quest / mode of distribution.

2) MMOs are here to grind together. It is debatable to what extend on a mobile, but take a look at the current community goal and you will find out it is not for casuals this season at least. I have no problem at all with the argument there should be rewards for all tiers of players (lots of events did that great.) But i will always advocate for pve elite farming as one vital half of the game. And it is an Mmo, not a match 3 puzzler you pick up and drop within minutes.

1) if the loot grants an un-tradeable pet...just stashable..it would be fantastic. this wouldn't modify the economy a bit. even if we were to have this event again. that might be the best solution for us who want the event, and not effect the game economy.

2) Casuals are what make the game profitable. They buy the plat that the best players don't really have to worry about selling there hard earned stuff. I agree with the elite farming, I don't disagree with you at all. but the rewards are set for the elite, and the best should come from that. but even in the simplest of games, you could obtain the best without that much effort. anything that can be grinded for on hours on end will eventually let out rewards. But many don't have that luxury...well I don't anyway lol.

[Avaree]

now imagine if there was a quest like this...and i have quite a few alts (15-20)all they would have to do daily/weekly is a quest.

If you want to grind a quest on all your alts go for it, I was referring to the egg thief that dropped an egg for every player at once, no matter wha, it dropped an egg x 4, one for all party mates.

But adding a "quest" to make this permanent would make things worse. If an event can help these players faster im all up for it.

Look at the prices now of the pets that are dropped by mobs, bosses, bought with tokens.
E.g, Breeze egg now 124.9k- was 350k+ before the eggstravaganza.

There are quarterly events that offer good eggs by reaching a certain tier, purchase with event tokens, and or boss drops already.

[Kakashis]

If you want to grind a quest on all your alts go for it, I was referring to the egg thief that dropped an egg for every player at once, no matter wha, it dropped an egg x 4, one for all party mates.





Look at the prices now of the pets that are dropped by mobs, bosses, bought with tokens.
E.g, Breeze egg now 124.9k- was 350k+ before the eggstravaganza.

There are quarterly events that offer good eggs by reaching a certain tier, purchase with event tokens, and or boss drops already.

Couldn't agree more. What's worse are the antignome prices xD