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    Default My opinion on Tradable Items

    I really don't want to be greedy or sound selfish, but here's my standpoint on vanities being tradable.

    1) All the people who had cap items from Humania, Fang, Nuri, Sewer don't have their exclusive cap items anymore as they can be dealt to anyone.

    2) You can make unlimited 3pc and 2pc rings now making it unfair for those who actually went through and capped. (Especially the 3pc)

    3) People spent real money on most the vanities and now people who are new can obtain them for free.

    4) Lastly this one hurts the most , you can't differ the new and old players anymore since a player who joined in 2015 could have 3pc and angel when he wasn't even there in the maps.

    This was a very bad idea in my opinion, what do you guys think?

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    :3

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    You can't get anything for free, you still pay gold to get it, it just completely changes the economy, not necessarily ruins it. See I'm pissed because my uncrafted black armor means so little now, but that's a different story

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    @lakers -- to answer your last question, all STS would have to do is just reward old players with a new vanity (basically a new type of founders, a 5pc reward, etc) and make it nontradeable

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Clooney View Post
    You can't get anything for free, you still pay gold to get it, it just completely changes the economy, not necessarily ruins it. See I'm pissed because my uncrafted black armor means so little now, but that's a different story
    Ya that's very tough especially with items like black dragon armor :/.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    @lakers -- to answer your last question, all STS would have to do is just reward old players with a new vanity (basically a new type of founders, a 5pc reward, etc) and make it nontradeable
    That would be nice if they would do that. Would at least differentiate between old and new players. At the point we are right now, someone could of joined during 2016 and still have a 3 pc.

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    At least all old player can get alot gold by selling there old cap items
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    Even if they add new stuff ppl will just trade it for super op prices. Lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by yannjoel View Post
    At least all old player can get alot gold by selling there old cap items
    Yea looool...
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    At least all old player can get alot gold by selling there old cap items

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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    @lakers -- to answer your last question, all STS would have to do is just reward old players with a new vanity (basically a new type of founders, a 5pc reward, etc) and make it nontradeable
    Yes plz, so sad to see so many new players looking like old players. Sorta feels out of place to me...

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    Bad decision on their (his?) part.
    The thing is that sts themselves set the precedent to have old players be rewarded with exclusive items, they have stated that several times over the years. I was all for everybody having access to items that have stats as that changed game play, as long as they left my exclusive things alone.
    It's not like al where mostly everything has always been tradeable. Nice that it screwed the black market some (not completely btw) but it sucks that anyone could look like me after years that being my reward for playing well for so long.
    After the gold influx from xmas the things I could sell are worth so little.
    Glad I jumped ship a while ago lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suentous PO View Post
    Bad decision on their (his?) part.
    The thing is that sts themselves set the precedent to have old players be rewarded with exclusive items, they have stated that several times over the years. I was all for everybody having access to items that have stats as that changed game play, as long as they left my exclusive things alone.
    It's not like al where mostly everything has always been tradeable. Nice that it screwed the black market some (not completely btw) but it sucks that anyone could look like me after years that being my reward for playing well for so long.
    After the gold influx from xmas the things I could sell are worth so little.
    Glad I jumped ship a while ago lol
    There is that age old question: do we consistently reward players who have been say 5 years with the STG (in that case, only accounts older than 5 years can get the rewards) or should we make attaining them easier? I really think that the latter would demolish the whole notion of "elite," but if we constantly make vanities unattainable for the general public then the black market thrives like never before. Also, there would be a huge upset community because everyone wants that COP or that Mount Fang Armor.

    I really think STG thought out the pros vs the cons of this update. I don't know if this reflects the general public of PL, but I think many are generally happy with the update. (Me, I am torn...I have some very valuable vanities, but I do want some ) Sure Sue, there still may be a black market, but I am sure it has died down a lot (I am pretty sure that name-buying is still a thing).

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    My problem also comes with how everyone has a 3 pc now, even if they only capped once.. They patched it, but it was kinda late in the game.

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    I feel how oldies feels, I play since 2012, but nevet capped and wob't prolly (unless farmer only), and my angel is so useless now, everyone have it and I dont feel somehow special anymore

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    Hmm, here's my personal points on the matter:

    1. The game is dead
    2. The game is dying
    3. The developers are putting forth effort to try and fix it. It may stomp on some toes, but I, for one, like the direction they're heading with things so far. All the exclusivity of items has been killing this game in many ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMicah View Post
    Hmm, here's my personal points on the matter:

    1. The game is dead
    2. The game is dying
    3. The developers are putting forth effort to try and fix it. It may stomp on some toes, but I, for one, like the direction they're heading with things so far. All the exclusivity of items has been killing this game in many ways.
    Disagree with you there. Exclusivity of items didn't "kill" the game, the announcement that they were not going to update the game did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suentous PO View Post
    Disagree with you there. Exclusivity of items didn't "kill" the game, the announcement that they were not going to update the game did.
    I didn't say that killed the game though, lil' PO. You gotta stop misrepresenting my statements. I said it's been killing the game in many ways. I believe it has. Perhaps you believe differently. Isn't it great that we can disagree about stuff?

    We can agree on stuff too, though! For example, I do agree with you that the announcement about no further updates very much so pushed forward the death of the game.
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    Crazy idea cuz cant sleep
    Maybe they made everything tradeable because they want to start fresh with the game without losing alot of players and actually achieve the goal of level 100 while releasing exclusive vanities ( non tradeable ) along the way?

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    Smart idea they should come up with something else for the old players we worked hard and now a 2017 player rolls in and is as good as us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMicah View Post
    I didn't say that killed the game though, Stud
    Mkay..........

    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMicah View Post
    All the exclusivity of items has been killing this game in many ways.

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