Please don't do this again...
Please do not do this again...
Xmas update was a good one but let's keep it just for xmas. Valentines day is coming up and i know most of the people that have 2010 valentines gear would hate for an event like Christmas to happen again. So please, Cinco, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
"My name is Pluto and i approve this message"
Lol. We can already get any vanity we want, why do you care if he releases 2010 vanities again?Originally Posted by zaorago
First of all, re-releasing* more vanities will just devalue everything and will defeat the purpose of collecting. If PL was a bigger audience, releasing it would be a much more logical path. But it's not... So i think that the exclusive holiday loot (1-2 day holidays) shouldn't be released. Also, if sts re-releases in valentines day, this means they have to do it to all the other holidays... This is not what we need (my opinion). I think having another Grotto would be the next logical step! We're chewing on more than what our mouth's handle!!!
can you read my thread again? I specifically said "I know most of the people that have 2010 valentines gear would hate for an event like Christmas to happen again". I wasn't talking about myself. Also, this goes for all the other 1-2 day holidays. Hope that makes sense to you!
That is exactly what this game needs right now, the market is totally inflated and absurd.
Nah, economy is short on cash. We need another Grotto.
so you are pretty much saying "don't release 2010 valentines items and make $$$ as a company because then the L10 cupid bow I have will not be worth alot of gold"
I bet Cinco will do it
So essentially, I think that we have the right amount of holiday/pvp/whatever items in this game. But the problem is, we need some gold to catch up with the economy... Grotto not only boosted the economy, but also made it possible for new players to have a chance at getting their dream item they've always wanted. Any inputs as to what you think should be the right move?
wasnt grotto glitched? you were actually suppose to purchase a 50 plat elexir to be able to open the portal to grotto. But it was glitched to where the 2 plat elexir worked.
Pluto: Please don't!
Cinco: Cry.
It's a shame, but they'll surely get re-released. There's just no such thing as collecting or limited items anymore. It's a real shame, but everything being tradeable isn't enough.
See what you did, now he has to do it.
If they re-release the 2010 items, it wouldn't be a shame because 2010 items were collectible items, which they are not. Rather it would be a shame because they re-released previously created items.
I would say please make new items. But based upon what you said, the only legititmate reason I can see for not wanting this kind of update is because the price of some expensive items will drastically go down. And seeing that you've offered a Valentine's Cupid bow over 10 times on several occasions for different items, I'd say the reason is precisely that.
The selfish card can be played both ways. The primary reason some people want them re-released is because they don't have them but wish to. It's even worse in that case since them being tradeable now means they're entirely obtainable by anyone, people just want to get their hands on them with the least amount of effort.
It isn't entirely selfish to not want them re-released anyways. I've always wanted a Devil's Pitchfork yet I was bummed to see those available again, I don't have an ESB yet I think the level 80 plat version is incredibly lame, I've never had a Humania face, but I don't want those made available again. In a world where everyone and their grandma has an undeserved Founder's and CoP, few items still hold any importance and have uniqueness to them. Some things were made to be limited and should be kept that way.
Besides, where do we draw the line? The original Valentine's items are some of the last holiday items that actually retained their spirit to them. Are holiday items the only things being re-released, or are we going to see Ichor weapons and black drag for plat soon? Since that would also generate lots of money for StS. Should Volconuts start dropping too so we can disregard anything retaining what little uniqueness it still has? People just suggest what should and shouldn't return based on what benefits them the most.
So if you didn't have the Valentine's Sword would you still be saying this right now? If sts doesnt get the funds it needs then what is the point of having exclusive items on a dead game? We all know STS doesn't have enough time to release non-recolored new items on PL every update. Which is why releasing old items is the best way to go. Peppermint Pounder, Candy cane staff, Snowman bow for xmas... Valentine sword,Rose wand,cupid bow for valentines day. If you don't agree with me then don't be mad at STS when they sunset the game aka release everything because they are no longer supporting PL anymore because it's not sufficiently profit. A wise man once said "the hard economics is that products have a lifecycle and they die."
Last edited by City; 02-03-2017 at 03:59 PM.
I assume this is in response to me? Yes, I would still be saying it, hence me giving numerous examples of items I was/would be disappointed to see re-released. That was kinda the point of the entire second paragraph of my post.
I also never said anything against recolored or redesigned items, I think that's a perfectly fine compromise. I don't get why you're painting it as if StS doesn't re-release all the Valentines items then PL will immediately get shutdown, lol. I'm fairly certain people will still buy recolored and redesigned items. Like I said, when do we draw the line in that instance anyways? Should Ichor items, Black Drag, Volconut, Community Shield, and Tourney Shield all be purchasable for plat? Because by your inherent logic they all should be along with anything else that could generate income.
Besides, I think it's fairly safe to assume any influx in revenue StS garners from PL won't be reinvested into the game anyways, and rather will go towards other efforts since they've moved on from PL. That's not a criticism at all either, it's entirely logical, but it is to say that PL isn't their primary source of income anymore. That's a lazy excuse to make.
Last edited by KingFu; 02-03-2017 at 05:11 PM.
Well said...
There's no doubt that it would be a shame if they re-released the old Valentines items. But I am having doubts on whether you think its a shame for the right reason. We really have to get rid of this 'exclusivity' mindset. The fact that Valentines items are one of a kind is because other items HAVE been re-released and Valentines items HAVE NOT. Ideally, no item should have been re-released, and new items should have been made in place of them.
I, for one, am least interested in a Valentines Item, and I believe that several other players share the same opinion. I don't want old Valentines items to return, but instead have new items all together. Ask Pluto; he hasn't been able to sell his Cupids Bow for ages. And if the price depreciates, I would be even less interested, because then I won't be able to keep them as an asset.
And please not this undeserved crap again. Don't you think someone who has worked hard to earn 50M deserves to be able to buy a founders? Go to any other game. There's no discrimination based on when you joined. You have every chance to be the best, whether it's by playing too much or paying too much.
Throughout the VAST majority of this game there has nearly alwayway been a differential based on when you played and what you might have done to earn what, which was going to be exclusive.
That is one the the things that used to drive me,
that was why I didn't "go to any other game".
And what's this so called "right reason" in the eyes of...you? I've said twice it isn't even remotely about self-gain. As for your stance on exclusivity, I strongly disagree.
Uh, nope, not even a little bit. Different items are meant to represent various things. Founder's was created to represent founding players, CoP was to recognize those who hit the first elite cap, Tourney Shield, Over Achiever helm, Volconut, etc. Those vanities had a story attached to each of them. They were something players had to actually work hard to earn through various means, and not just sit in town and buy. Countless items played the role of showing off your wealth, not every item needs to. There's much more to PL than just gold. Having a lot of gold grants you several privileges as is, it shouldn't get you everything.And please not this undeserved crap again. Don't you think someone who has worked hard to earn 50M deserves to be able to buy a founders?
Lol, huh? Countless games have exclusive and limited items. Pre-order incentives, limited collector's editions, exclusive releases of the game, limited holiday items/DLC, various events. I have no idea what you're talking about there. Also, how do exclusive vanity helms and items that aren't even viable in PvP inhibit anyone from being "the best"? You mean to tell me Johnnythebear can't be the best bear in PL because he doesn't have a CoP on his head and a Tourney Shield in hand? I'll also ignore the fact you may actually be suggesting pay-to-win is a better practice than having exclusive/limited items.Go to any other game. There's no discrimination based on when you joined. You have every chance to be the best, whether it's by playing too much or paying too much.
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