*New* Opinions on this expansion and end game

[thekragle]

So what did you like or not like about this expansion looking back?

For me,

1. I don't really like the map specific set equipment we have had since the Cryo campaign. I like the set concept but not that it is map specific.

2. I love the random maps found in this current expansion. That was a great touch!

3. I liked the concept of Maus 1-6 but it is horrible for a casual player. Running those maps requires a good party and lots of time. Plus you feel like crap if you have to bail on your guildies half way through cuz your dog is taking a dump in the living room! (Did not really happen lol)

4. I like the gold drops in the twilight expansion as well.

I could go on, but I'll keep these as my main points.

[VenomSet]

I did not like community-goals.

[thekragle]

I did not like community-goals.

Yep, I like individual goals for perks but, I agree with you, the community goals held back some of the fun and progression.

[Plqgue]

Before I unlocked 5-6 I was against this expansion...but now that I have those Maps unlocked for a while this expansion is easily the best since level 41 so many things to farm and craft and the drops aren't non-existant like a few other Maps I would really love it if they just did a level expansion and added more floors for exalted rank maybe 7-8 for the last badge that as of now is 800 tokens for a belt

[Poisontips]

I like the easy opportunities to make gold that this expansion has brought. Dislike the system of having to complete map after map to get to higher Maus levels. As the op stated it makes it difficult for casual players to get the chance to play the endgame content without having a lot of free time. Hoping they bring the traditional elites back

[Avaree]

Tbh, whats there not to like, (yes i do random parties) and have met some amazing players. As far as the set being mostly useful in maus, its ok, I will return time and time again to farm gold and tokens.

The way the tokens can be used is a brilliant idea.

This season rates #1 for me.

Im ready for m-7 and banish weaponsss!

Cheers!

[Xenozes]

Before I unlocked 5-6 I was against this expansion...but now that I have those Maps unlocked for a while this expansion is easily the best since level 41 so many things to farm and craft and the drops aren't non-existant like a few other Maps I would really love it if they just did a level expansion and added more floors for exalted rank maybe 7-8 for the last badge that as of now is 800 tokens for a belt

-1 Would be too hard for new beginners to farm all the way up there

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[thekragle]

Personally I would have preferred a tier based system with personal goals and as you went up the ranks you could start at the corresponding Maus level.
So at the specific rank and with the right badge you could start at the corresponding level. For example if I was light bearer elite I would always be able to start at Maus level 4 for example. If I was exalted I would be able to always start at Maus 5 and so on.

In other words the harder you worked to achieve the higher level the more advantage you would have over other players because you could not only have access to higher Maus levels but could start at the higher levels from the start and not have to work your way through each level.

[Plqgue]

-1 Would be too hard for new beginners to farm all the way up there

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It wasn't too hard for me to farm all the way up there why would it be too hard for them?

[thekragle]

I would personally have preferred that each rank and badge, granted the ability to START at a corresponding Maus level.
So at Lightbearer elite you could start at Maus 5 for example and at Exalted you could start at Maus 6.
This would prevent alienating a large player base who cant always form a party and spend 30 minutes grinding Maus 2-6.
This would also have been a another major motivator to work your way up through ranks.

[runagain]

Best expansion imo, F2P players also had a great chance this expansion to make tons of gold, plat ruled less. Tho it's awesome that you had to put some effort in to reach something. 110k points isn't that hard eventually. The Community goals were cool too, so it won't be on individual gameplay but more on team gameplay and it isn't that fast completed yet because of those Community goals.

I'm also ready for An expand of Mausoleum, m7-(8)!

#m7arena ftw

[nightmaresmoke]

Best expansion imo, F2P players also had a great chance this expansion to make tons of gold, plat ruled less. Tho it's awesome that you had to put some effort in to reach something. 110k points isn't that hard eventually. The Community goals were cool too, so it won't be on individual gameplay but more on team gameplay and it isn't that fast completed yet because of those Community goals.

I'm also ready for An expand of Mausoleum, m7-(8)!

#m7arena ftw

Community goals cool really? Have you ever wondered why sts decided to just skip the goal when it should've been in the last trial of the goal? first they reduced the ridiculous amount for the "cg" in then lastly they just opened the map straight without even finishing the said last goal considering there decision community goals are nowhere near cool as you said, maybe for a one time events but never for an expansion.

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

[runagain]

Community goals cool really? Have you ever wondered why sts decided to just skip the goal when it should've been in the last trial of the goal? first they reduced the ridiculous amount for the "cg" in then lastly they just opened the map straight without even finishing the said last goal considering there decision community goals are nowhere near cool as you said, maybe for a one time events but never for an expansion.

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

1. Don't be lazy, it is how it is.

2. Patience is the key of everything.

=)

[nightmaresmoke]

1. Don't be lazy, it is how it is.

2. Patience is the key of everything.

=)

If everyone is patient then why sts skipped the last goal? Now tell me..

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

[runagain]

If everyone is patient then why sts skipped the last goal? Now tell me..

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

Maybe cuz tooo many complained abt it? Nd I didn't said everyone is patient lol

[Alwarez]

-1 for this expansion:
1) it forces to spend weeks to just grind points (no drops, no gold in process)
2) it forces to stick with a party to farm maus 5-6, if u run pug theres HUGE chance they dont have 5-6 unlocked and big chance they will die alot in 5-6
3) all the goals to play for are sets and arcane armor which will get insta-obsolete when next cap hits and vanities.

[GoodSyntax]

PROs:
Gold earned per map is quite good
Randomized maps (though I wish they were even more 'random', bosses are always at the same place)
Plenty of daily quests for tokens
Point and tier system to open new content

In general, I like the high(ish) gold drops. Map randomization is a good idea, and really should be expanded. I like that tiers have to be earned through gameplay; it's nice to know that other Lightbearers have gone through the same grind you have, and you can be reasonably confident that they are capable runners (even in a PUG).


CONs:
Too many one-hits (yes, I'm specifically referring to curse)
Loot is terrible! With the focus on grinding for points, the loot has devalued to liquidation quality for most things
Sure, Mythic and Arcane loot is technically in the table, but, in the case of the shard, it really isn't there
Would like to see better use of tokens (like 1,000 tokens to buy a shard, 2,000 tokens for an orb, 800 tokens for scale, etc.)
Voice set cannot be completed by yourself, and a full set isn't that much better than legendary or token purchased gear
Too much of a grind to run the deeper mausoleum maps (unless you plat purchase access)
Crafting endgame items is crazy expensive and does not derive value commensurate with costs/effort

The point/tier system is a grind, which is fine, but getting there doesn't give you anything I consider worthwhile. I like the token system, but the items that can be purchased are not very good - it seems that this can be expanded to include the most difficult to find items (scale, shard, bars, etc.) which would help far more. Crafting seems so focused on incredibly rare items, that when costs are factored in to the final product, I just don't think it provides much value for the player. I really don't like having my own self-sufficiency taken away from me when it comes to the voice set. For a casual game, running from M1 is too much of a grind - especially if someone wants to run a few M5/6 maps. If you are a time-limited player, income opportunities are limited because of this system. This expansion needs better non-gold drop income opportunities. Previous elites at least had elite chests which could be farmed for income, but with the flood of legendaries, getting a "good" drop doesn't amount to much, unless your drop is a scale/husk/shard.

[Kakashis]

Tbh, whats there not to like, (yes i do random parties) and have met some amazing players. As far as the set being mostly useful in maus, its ok, I will return time and time again to farm gold and tokens.

The way the tokens can be used is a brilliant idea.

This season rates #1 for me.

Im ready for m-7 and banish weaponsss!

Cheers!

Yes, we complained that there want enough gold drop in the game, and the devs listened. Rare items are more expensive than before but none of that affects the game play. Didn't like how many points it required to enter certain floors, buy still grinded through it. All is well now and gold drops are great! Also awaiting a harder floor with even better drops and yes, can't wait to see our banished Weaponsss

[nightmaresmoke]

Maybe cuz tooo many complained abt it? Nd I didn't said everyone is patient lol

Thought so, community goals for an entire expansion is not really a good idea you got lazy/hardcore/mediocre players in the game if the negative beats the positive lazy vs hardcore the positive/hardcore would be pissed,impatient etc.. that's why as a game developer/company you're forced to please your positive crowd to make sure they will stay and play hence what sts did.

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, evil for evil"

[Chocolaty]

Best expansion imo since they released Planar Tombs. Both did bleed me of my ankhs lol.