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    http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...oot-awakenings

    Now then would be mighty fine if ya all went and checked out what justg said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm View Post
    http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...oot-awakenings

    Now then would be mighty fine if ya all went and checked out what justg said.
    I said this:

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    We're definitely watching these threads, as well as the gold flow into and out of the economy. The truth is much less drastic than some people have been hypothesizing. A healthy economy is in all of our bests interests, so rest assured we'll continue to keep an eye on it and take appropriate steps as necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justg View Post
    I said this:

    as always wise as fOck

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    Hope next expansions better I wanna see the lock grand crate returned. I miss lock farming.. pff

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    Idk but i somehow i feel like these awakenings gems are our new gold sink, which people were demanding, because i know several players who spent like 4-5k plat or 20m+ on awakening just their belt....

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    Quote Originally Posted by intizamfamily888 View Post
    Idk but i somehow i feel like these awakenings gems are our new gold sink, which people were demanding, because i know several players who spent like 4-5k plat or 20m+ on awakening just their belt....

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    I believe a gold sink is supposed to consume gold, not pass it onto someone else. You only "awaken" a weapon once for 5k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vvildfire View Post
    I believe a gold sink is supposed to consume gold, not pass it onto someone else. You only "awaken" a weapon once for 5k.
    U will end up loosing gold aswell, since it's not guaranteed to get a good awakening and not everybody is "lucky"

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    Quote Originally Posted by intizamfamily888 View Post
    U will end up loosing gold aswell, since it's not guaranteed to get a good awakening and not everybody is "lucky"

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    lol... the gold is still in the economy though.
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    The best solution s to increase tax n the auction. So that mercher wont abuse listing op price at auction...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Froze.Exe View Post
    The best solution s to increase tax n the auction. So that mercher wont abuse listing op price at auction...
    Newbies will complain more about this.

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    I dunno about what sts is up to but it might happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hail View Post
    lol... the gold is still in the economy though.
    Actually not when the kits get used up

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    Quote Originally Posted by intizamfamily888 View Post
    Actually not when the kits get used up

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    Player A buys awakening kits with platinum and lists cs for 250k
    Player B (who has farmed gold) buys Player A's kits for 250k.
    250k goes from B to A.

    A gold sink is buying spendsalot vanity...
    Player C buys 10m vanity - that 10m does not go to another player... thus it is out of the economy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hail View Post
    Player A buys awakening kits with platinum and lists cs for 250k
    Player B (who has farmed gold) buys Player A's kits for 250k.
    250k goes from B to A.

    A gold sink is buying spendsalot vanity...
    Player C buys 10m vanity - that 10m does not go to another player... thus it is out of the economy
    Ok got it my fault

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    Here is what I love/hate about the gold loot system:

    The best and coolest part of gold loot is it is more benificial to people who farm hard. Unlike the "luck" system of the past, gold loot benefits those who play and farm the most. The luck system made profits unstable. Someone could farm hours and earn the same amount of gold as someone who farmed 5 minutes, all based on luck drops. So in some ways, I like the gold loot system.

    The reason I hate this is simple. I really don't know what the people who are defending all the gold looted are getting there reasoning from. Here is how I see it. The main way gold is "lost" in the economy is from auc listing fees. Other ways are buying pots, sir spendalot vanities, crafting fees, etc. The main way gold is "gained" in the economy is gold drops. Other ways are looting gold from lockeds, finishing quests, opening certain chests, etc. The problem is the amount gained is surpassing the amount lost, resulting in more gold in the over all market. Basic economics then dictates that when there is more overall gold, prices on everything goes up. Even tho some people are trying to deny it, this is the truth. Now how much the amount gained is greater then the amount lost is arguable. But as sts continues to add more gold into the economy (via gold loot awakens being added), prices for everything will continue to rise unless they add a new gold sink. I mean no disrespect to those defending that gold loot is good, but this is the undeniable fact. How much prices will increase is unpredictable, but they will no doubt go up, even if it is only minorly.

    In summary: gold loot strongly benefits those who have high gold loot items, and provides a disadvantage to those who don't have gold loot/ don't have a lot of time to play. I hate how people make it sound so easy to earn gold. Yes there is easy ways to earn gold if you have high gold loot, high tier gear, good pts to run with, and lots of experience. But seeing how many people lack most of these, gold is not so easy for "everyone" to obtain. I will constinently see the "rich" call out weak players, saying terrible things to them, or just leave the random party because the run is too slow. How then are these "weak" players supposed to make this gold, which apparently is so easy to get? Not everyone has the same opportunity to farm gold, and I strongly feel these gold loot awakens being added continue to add to the wealth gap and exclude more and more players from the game as they can not keep up with prices. If you find any flaws in my reasoning given, pls comment as I am trying to understand both sides of this arguement. I mean no offense to any of the previous posts in this tread.

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    Is the issue more people have a way to make money. I don't think so.
    Runningn endgame maps in lvl10 gear.
    Maybe the real issue here...

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