Are you happy with the current game state?

[Ucamaeben]

as a f2p player (I do sometimes plat offers but not really purchase plats) took me years to get ...healthy.
Once I spent 4 months just grinding km3 for around 3 hours/day (my kdr was soo good at the time xD), being able to craft 180 massives, selling them during events making a good profit (at the time around 16 millions). There I started to merch/craft-sell nekro and other stuff and now, even if I don’t have the best gear, I’m happy with my stats and savings.

I’m not saying this to brag out. I just want to focus on the fact that took me around one year to reach this situation, starting from a “ok now I will make some money” state of mind and already some knowledge of the game!
“Average” or casual player will never be rich! Grinders of plat users can. And to be rich just grinding requires a huge amount of time!
Arcanes, PP, nekro and all the “old” OP stuff was always crazily high priced! The best stuff was always expansive.
And I don’t know if someone of you remember economy after cakes and deary island issues......was good in your opinion? (Really asking ) in mine wasn’t.
We need objectives in game.....things hard to achieve....goals. And rarities. If not, where is the fun??

It’s interesting how the veteran players feel about the game compared to the new players.

As far as saving gold, your a better man than me kayak, I need to hire a arlorian investment specialist.

[Xxkayakxx]

It’s interesting how the veteran players feel about the game compared to the new players.

As far as saving gold, your a better man than me kayak, I need to hire a arlorian investment specialist.

Investment is the key
Just invest half of your money or set a number of money you want to have cash and invest all the rest! (That if you have some ability in merch....I’m not a pro merch but specialized in some items....and I have a lot of patience xD).
Lucky me I’m not really into vanities!!!! XD I just wear what is of my taste so I save a lot of money just ...being me xD

[Susanne]

I need a financial advisor. Oh my downfall is vanities I'm afraid. Even all the ones I get from using tokens in events I'm loathe to sell. Still, I enjoy the game so what is the use lots of gold if you don't enjoy it?

[Azebor]

The current gap between the rich and the poor can be divided into 3 parts:

1) The Level Gap: Mausoleum is level 60+ content.

2) The Time Gap: Levelling to 60+ takes time, then you have to grind open mausoleum by running graveyard over, and over, and over, and over, and over....

3) The Gold Loot Gap: The cost difference of Gold Loot gear between the rich (high gold loot on strong equipment) and the poor (low gold loot on weak equipment) is huge, meaning rich players can make gold much faster than poor players.

So, what does STS need to do? Add the ability to make gold at a lower level and decrease the time it takes to reach gold-making status by lowering the cost of gold-making equipment. Hmm... Sounds a lot like when you could buy a leprechaun amulet for 150k gold, pop a luck elixir for 30k gold, and run low level brackenridge, tombs, and mines for locked crates....but STS took that away and now look what happened.

[Azerothraven]

The Gold Loot Gap: The cost difference of Gold Loot gear between the rich (high gold loot on strong equipment) and the poor (low gold loot on weak equipment) is huge, meaning rich players can make gold much faster than poor players.

If they make it easy to farm gold for low level poor players then there would be insufficient incentive for the poor people to work hard to get richer.

[Azebor]

If they make it easy to farm gold for low level poor players then there would be insufficient incentive for the poor people to work hard to get richer.

The act of gold generation should be the same for everyone. Example: When Person A shoots a kraag cannon, they receive 1 gold. If Person B were to shoot the same cannon, should they get 2 gold? No. If Person B wants 2 gold to buy something shiny, then they should shoot the cannon twice. In this example, the something shiny is the incentive, and the shooting twice is the "hard work".

[Azerothraven]

The act of gold generation should be the same for everyone. Example: When Person A shoots a kraag cannon, they receive 1 gold. If Person B were to shoot the same cannon, should they get 2 gold? No. If Person B wants 2 gold to buy something shiny, then they should shoot the cannon twice. In this example, the something shiny is the incentive, and the shooting twice is the "hard work".

STS uses the cost of the gold loot gears as an incentive. Making them cheaper isnt a solution. They need to come up with a new and attainable way for low levels to make gold. I do agree it is hard and they need to look into this but lowering price of gl sets isnt it

[Thewolfbull]

The game is fine

[Susanne]

Getting up to earn a living in real life is hardwork and so is studying. Playing a game is supposed to be a leisure activity so please stop saying it's "hardwork".

[zauilet]

Getting up to earn a living in real life is hardwork and so is studying. Playing a game is supposed to be a leisure activity so please stop saying it's "hardwork".

EXACTLY!! i love u muaaah!!! Ss ur post <3
Edit : and lol it is rather hard to believe that approximately, NO ONE is concerned bout new players lol everyone is just happy coz yea they spent their money to get top gl awakenings nd r top dogs rn
If sts wants the game to grow this has to b changed unless sts is happy with current population of arlor
I can already sense the hate coming on this post of mine so ill peacefully leave the thread thnx for reading XD
#RISE!!

[Suentous PO]

Lol I don't even use gold loot awakenings. I'd rather have the kind of stats that get me invited to maus

[PatD]

Getting up to earn a living in real life is hardwork and so is studying. Playing a game is supposed to be a leisure activity so please stop saying it's "hardwork".

In any mmo games u have to expect some "hardwork" to get rare and nice stuff or else u can just play casually and enjoy the social aspect of the game, nobody force you to run for LB or unlock mausoleum, but a majority of player enjoy the competition and "hardwork" to earn some rare and cool stuff, for me a reward is something you have to put some hardwork in it! just my opinion

[thekragle]

The game is fine

Yes!

In any mmo games u have to expect some "hardwork" to get rare and nice stuff or else u can just play casually and enjoy the social aspect of the game, nobody force you to run for LB or unlock mausoleum, but a majority of player enjoy the competition and "hardwork" to earn some rare and cool stuff, for me a reward is something you have to put some hardwork in it! just my opinion

Well said! The hard work is and the grind is what motivates mmo players otherwise it's Candy crush, blah!

[Susanne]

Yes!



Well said! The hard work is and the grind is what motivates mmo players otherwise it's Candy crush, blah!

I don't consider grinding, getting my prestigious title, running from graveyard to mausoleum 6 regularly, crafting awakenings and jewels not to mention other items, playing all events etcetera...hardwork. Not even crafting my planar pendant in my level 40s and crafting my mythic himi armour level 36 plus other armours whilst running my own quite successful guild at that time and helping new players as hardwork. Then again..I may be strange. I have also never played candy crush. Kind regards.

[PatD]

I don't consider grinding, getting my prestigious title, running from graveyard to mausoleum 6 regularly, crafting awakenings and jewels not to mention other items, playing all events etcetera...hardwork. Not even crafting my planar pendant in my level 40s and crafting my mythic himi armour level 36 plus other armours whilst running my own quite successful guild at that time and helping new players as hardwork. Then again..I may be strange. I have also never played candy crush. Kind regards.

Lol ok Suzy then lets just change "hardwork" for "put the time in"

[Susanne]

Lol ok Suzy then lets just change "hardwork" for "put the time in"

Ah.. yes. Thanks for that and what a nice description. Wish I'd thought of it.

[Xxsoifongxx]

Just dropped my tea in shock. What on Earth can anyone need 250m gold for??? Please enlighten me.

It’s around 200m or more to make 100% max rogue at 66 so?


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[Susanne]

It’s around 200m or more to make 100% max rogue at 66 so?


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Really? Thank you for informing me. Good grief I really didn't know that. I'm so glad you took the trouble to impart your knowledge. I must start farming and saving like a mad thing now.

[Xxkayakxx]

It’s around 200m or more to make 100% max rogue at 66 so?


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So anyone enjoy game in different ways

[PsychoNuke]

I don't blame people for not having perspective, if you see most of the post here denotes "I", its human psyche - simply dictates: why should others get it easy when I got it hard. And I totally don't blame you guys, as I said before: people got used to bad economy that now they think its normal.

Appreciating the game for new content, comparing it with other games, defining grinding and hard work or giving ideas on how to make gold is not the objective of this thread. This isn't about how you became rich or how to become one.

Understand this: Economy of the game is considered healthy when the average player is able to equip them self to be able to reach and play the endgame, when an everage player is able to afford items by doing the content itself. This isn't about being able to buy expensive vanities. This isn't about luxury. It is about filling the necessity.

So just because you are doing alright, it does not mean everyone is. "I" am wealthy does not equal economy is healthy.
I can totally say everything is cool too and sit with my arms crossed. Because I am in that bracket now where bad economy does not affect me. I am not an average player, I mean I might not be rich, but I have everything I want (now I got Lucky Golem too ) + I run LB. But then we are just that 5% of the total population of the game. What about the 95%?

The problem is the majority of the players who get affected by this are not even on the forum, hence all I can do is give ideas, ask devs to check the stats and cross my fingers for best.