About vocations and hydra/infested

[Alwarez]

or it will be 4 op rogue parties.

Playing without op rogue party is not a disaster. You want fastest farming? If ur a warrior you won't get a top speed. So just go pug and you will be ok. Lots of people there AND sometimes op rogues with 100 dex artis and all that jazz.

And everything in mauso starting from checking maps to boss kills could be done without rogues.

I hope sts won't ruin another expansion for rogues just because people don't want to play pugs at least sometimes.

[Spheresome]

You do not understand the gravity of the issue.
This is not about gold making, mages and warriors make almost same amount of gold from raids as it depends on the GL Gear.

This is about the inter-dependence of the classes irrespective of the content, including events. And the exponentially increased gap between the damage of classes over time.
This is not about a single class, try to think neutral. Check the LB, I am sure you wouldn't be saying the same if it was 4 mages or 4 warriors there.

Yep this right here! +100, when the leaderboard for LB raids is the same 4 ppl and all of them are rogues on ALL of the raid leaderboards. Something needs to be fixed. The leaderboard is centralized around the rogue classs

[Alwarez]

Yep this right here! +100, when the leaderboard for LB raids is the same 4 ppl and all of them are rogues on ALL of the raid leaderboards. Something needs to be fixed. The leaderboard is centralized around the rogue classs

Nothing needs to be fixed since hydra can be done with 2 tanks 1 mage 1 rogue in pug in under 2 mins. If this is too slow for you, it's your problem.

[Sometacoz]

Seriously guys just pt people you would like to run with if they agree. I believe it can be done with all classes easily, but it's hard to find the perfect people to get you to lb as they are probably already in a pt.