Unemployed Rogue with an apparent one of the best weap Ebon bow

[Narana.Solarie]

My first time ranting so please do try to understand where I’m coming from.

I spend most of my AL time in mausoleum and i enjoy it a lot! Except one detail... why is it that even after spending 30m+ on a bow I’m still not doing decent damage on Lich/Vori? I joke with friends how dragon staff mages made us rogues unemployed. But it really is true. I spent millions on gears just to be able to hold my own or assist other players while we run mausoleum.

I tried Immo bow just to be able to do some damage on Lich/bosses but it was sad too :/ and finally AL introduced Ebon, i was expecting so much from Ebon that us rogues get decent weapon that can at least hold a candle against dragon staff proc and actually do some damage on Lich. But unfortunately how proc works only matters in pvp not pve. I’ve seen how people complain Ebon weapon procs in pvp but hey AL! There are pve people too?!
I might be selfish or whatever you call, but at least i know many non pvp and pve concentrated rogue players can understand what i mean.
I really feel it’s unfair how end game weapon do so less damage than way low lvl weapon. I’m not saying nerf ds or how mages are unfair. It’s about how AL weapon logic is so messed up. Isn’t there way for us rogues do some damage on lich now too? Warr and Mage can kill Lich but all us Rogue can do is “tickle the hell out of Lich” whyyy???

End of ranting. Thank you


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[Azerothraven]

Sts only balance/buff when mages are at a disadvantage never for rogue

[PsychoNuke]

Sts only balance/buff when mages are at a disadvantage never for rogue

Thats a very wrong thing to say.
And speculations like these from the community is the reason Rogues are wrecking the end game independently.

PS: The reviews of Ebon dags are awsome.
If players are not happy with bow then data specific to bow should be provided to devs so they can look into it. Cinco is testing all weapons himself.
Also, when comparing, remember your comparison should be between: Bow Vs Gun Vs Sword and Aegis Vs Dags Vs Staff.

[Bluehazee]

Sts only balance/buff when mages are at a disadvantage never for rogue

Look at current event lb before talk.
Facts

[Azerothraven]

Look at current event lb before talk.
Facts

Rogue's spend 10x more gold than mages and warriors combined to be on LB e.g. gears, energy kits, awakens etc. They are also a lot more dedicated than other classes. ( and no we dont earn significantly more than any other classes). They drop rate for rogues are even rarer than any other classes.
They arent on LB because if any unbalance, they worked for it now on LB.

[grzena1982]

Rogue's spend 10x more gold than mages and warriors combined to be on LB e.g. gears, energy kits, awakens etc. They are also a lot more dedicated than other classes. ( and no we dont earn significantly more than any other classes). They drop rate for rogues are even rarer than any other classes.
They arent on LB because if any unbalance, they worked for it now on LB.

Your statement is only valid only for people competing for lb rewards. Yes, they need to make more runs than other classes, the reason being is that it's easier and faster for them.

Take the current swamp event for instance. You will notice the discrepancy in solo points on lb which precisely indicate how unfairly the balancing has become between classes.

For each 1 energy used rogues on average can achieve 2x more points than mages and worriors as seen on lb board. This also yield them more event tokens per run. More tokens means more money that your can easily make.

Basically, each event run, in any event that o recall can be completed faster and easier by playing as a rogue class.


The point ur missing is that when I run lb you do not only compete against the same class, but also against all players and their interests. If you get more of valuables because its easier and faster based on the class selection you have chosen then you will potentially dialliute the price of drops for the rest of us.

This should have no place if this game was to be called fair.

[Perceval]

Look at current event lb before talk.
Facts

Wanna buy ebon daggers 99m?

Yeah, you don't. Enjoy your broken 3m staff (which sts supposedly "nerfed" but seems to still top the charts).

[Abuze]

Wanna buy ebon daggers 99m?

Yeah, you don't. Enjoy your broken 3m staff (which sts supposedly "nerfed" but seems to still top the charts).

Why is ebon 99m? bc of the damn supply.
During the 46 cap the newly released arcanes at that time were already close to 2m not long after the release.
But sure go ahead and compare those 2 lmao

Rogue's spend 10x more gold than mages and warriors combined to be on LB e.g. gears, energy kits, awakens etc. They are also a lot more dedicated than other classes. ( and no we dont earn significantly more than any other classes). They drop rate for rogues are even rarer than any other classes.
They arent on LB because if any unbalance, they worked for it now on LB.

Rogues spend more because of the competition, its same as during 2017 winter event when tree banner was the reward, mages were more expensive to run due to the banner being more attractive to mages, again has to do with competition.

[supersyan]

warrior is also expensive to run

[Abuze]

The sad thing is that tanks can clear mobs easily with their new proc and even solo lich within 20s, meanwhile rog weapons r insanely expensive (ebon dags) or ebon bow that has the same proc damage as a nox in PvE.
Mages weapons aren't great either.

[PsychoNuke]

Specific to Lich/Vori in M6: As per the last update all classes have to use the mechanics to defeat Lich and Vori.
DS does not ignore Lich's shield anymore and is capped to deal only 1/3rd of actual damage to M6 bosses.

Do you follow the pool mechanic when Lich enables his shield?

[Narana.Solarie]

Specific to Lich/Vori in M6: As per the last update all classes have to use the mechanics to defeat Lich and Vori.
DS does not ignore Lich's shield anymore and is capped to deal only 1/3rd of actual damage to M6 bosses.

Do you follow the pool mechanic when Lich enables his shield?

Yep and i use dark apostle bombs too. I know how the mechanic works. I would lead the giant away from others too. Even if i follow it the damage Ebon proc do on Lich is just pathetic. I’m not greedy and asking AL make proc to drain hp like ebon aegis. I just want AL Make the damage worth the level and gold that players spent on it is what i mean.


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[PsychoNuke]

Yep and i use dark apostle bombs too. I know how the mechanic works. I would lead the giant away from others too. Even if i follow it the damage Ebon proc do on Lich is just pathetic. I’m not greedy and asking AL make proc to drain hp like ebon aegis. I just want AL Make the damage worth the level and gold that players spent on it is what i mean.


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Thanks for clarifying, so I understand a rogue using bow will be more appropriate to answer your concern, or probably help devs get some data on improvement.
Is the Ebon Bow proc rate and damage very less in comparison to Ebon Gun and Sword?

[Narana.Solarie]

Thanks for clarifying, so I understand a rogue using bow will be more appropriate to answer your concern, or probably help devs get some data on improvement.
Is the Ebon Bow proc rate and damage very less in comparison to Ebon Gun and Sword?

I have ran with ebon aegis and ebon gun payers in maus. Only worthy enough for it’s worth is Aegis and probably dagger (I’m not sure bc I haven’t seen how it deals dmg on Lich yet). As for ebon gun it’s bad too.
And bow... all i do is when Lich gets proc I’m making Lich look sparkly and pretty. Basically ebon bow proc is decorating it with a very bad damage and that’s it..

At least make the procs stack for some damage


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[Shubham]

Thanks for clarifying, so I understand a rogue using bow will be more appropriate to answer your concern, or probably help devs get some data on improvement.
Is the Ebon Bow proc rate and damage very less in comparison to Ebon Gun and Sword?

Procs of ebon gun is not so good to so yea ebon daggers staff and Agies wins the battle ezypzy

[Abuze]

This has been a good season for PvE tanks xD, from broken ultimate to broken weapon.

[Narana.Solarie]

And at this rate i would do same disappointing damages on Hugthulu too?

End game arc weapon not being good enough for pve is just too sad and not worthy enough for other players to spend their hard earned gold on.


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[slaaayerrr]

problem is: that lich have too much hp, and compared to minibosses it doesnt give any additional drop (im at 1,7m pts + 500k pts on other toons, got only 1 shard), gold loot from lich less than from minibosses, killing lich was always waste of time + that timed stun which cant be removed, still dont understand why players dont skip it

[PsychoNuke]

I am not sure why they scaled Maus 5/6 to level 71, they should reset it back to level 66. Afterall nightmare set is still the best gear for that content.

[Abuze]

I am not sure why they scaled Maus 5/6 to level 71, they should reset it back to level 66. Afterall nightmare set is still the best gear for that content.

sts already said that maus will keep on scaling with the lvl cap

problem is: that lich have too much hp, and compared to minibosses it doesnt give any additional drop (im at 1,7m pts + 500k pts on other toons, got only 1 shard), gold loot from lich less than from minibosses, killing lich was always waste of time + that timed stun which cant be removed, still dont understand why players dont skip it

lich cant be skipped for those indeed of ap