DISREGARD THE OTHER POST —- this is the real solution. ENDGAME LOOT TABLE.

[Mastervoodoo]

I honestly do not believe cinco believes us when we say just how bad the drop rate is. And I say this because I don’t believe the drop rate has been appropriately tested. The real solution is for YOU cinco, or any other dev, to test the drop rate your self since it’s your way or the highway at this point, and then tell the community what you really think about it being “fair” and challenging. I believe if you see for your self how the drop rate actually is, it might sway your mind a little bit. Gold chests do not drop, and elites are dropping 1 out of 100 kills if you’re lucky . I think everyone would have peace if you did your own assessment. Thank you for your consideration.

[Xyzther]

Yeah, the current drop rates are quite frustrating. Since capping, I’ve done over 100 runs, all with 100% reroll, and my best drop has been just 1 pink. If the map preceding ebonthrax takes 4 minutes to complete and ebonthrax himself takes 10 minutes to kill, that’s 1400 minutes, nearly 24 hours, of pure farming just to receive one pink item. I understand Cinco wants the Mythic sets to be very rare, but when it takes 24 hours to receive one PIECE (not even the whole set!) of the THIRD best tier gear (not even second best!) then I start losing motivation.

Oh yeah, and the pink I received, I couldn’t even use lol. It was str and I am dex.

An ideal solution would be to decrease Ebonthrax HP/Armor (the issue is mainly the fight is taking too long. While his damage is strong, it still keeps the fight a challenge this way and not just a boring grind) and to (obviously) improve his drops in one way or another.

[XghostzX]

Yeah, the current drop rates are quite frustrating. Since capping, I’ve done over 100 runs, all with 100% reroll, and my best drop has been just 1 pink. If the map preceding ebonthrax takes 4 minutes to complete and ebonthrax himself takes 10 minutes to kill, that’s 1400 minutes, nearly 24 hours, of pure farming just to receive one pink item. I understand Cinco wants the Mythic sets to be very rare, but when it takes 24 hours to receive one PIECE (not even the whole set!) of the THIRD best tier gear (not even second best!) then I start losing motivation.

Oh yeah, and the pink I received, I couldn’t even use lol. It was str and I am dex.

An ideal solution would be to decrease Ebonthrax HP/Armor (the issue is mainly the fight is taking too long. While his damage is strong, it still keeps the fight a challenge this way and not just a boring grind) and to (obviously) improve his drops in one way or another.

And this is said from one of the most passionate, dedicated PvErs I know

+1 !

[synfullmagic_23110]

Maybe u dont need reroll for mythic items ?


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[Cinco]

I do believe you. You don't seem to believe that I believe you. Given how it's set up - it should take months to get a full set of the best gear. I think I already said this somewhere else.

[Faq]

I do believe you. You don't seem to believe that I believe you. Given how it's set up - it should take months to get a full set of the best gear. I think I already said this somewhere else.

Even with the posts and comments over the weekend your position still stands? I understand if you need more time to observe the drop rates, but a good portion of the community is pretty unhappy with the current game state. I know for myself without any action from the development team, I.e. you, I wil most likely lose interest in the coming days and weeks.

Everyone is different, but I can’t justify spending time let alone money for something like this. Again, just my two cents.

[Dolloway]

I do believe you. You don't seem to believe that I believe you. Given how it's set up - it should take months to get a full set of the best gear. I think I already said this somewhere else.

Perhaps these drop rates would be fine in 2010 or 2011 but in 2019 when the playerbase is far less than what it once was, this is not okay. The way it is currently set up, it is the hardest of any cap in PL history thus far to drop the best gear. You could replace the setup with any other cap and have a better chance of dropping the best gear.

In a few days, maybe a few weeks, this new cap will become an afterthought - the cap that the community was so eagerly waiting on since early this year. Many of the playerbase will feel defeated and stop playing once more.

You have a chance to fix this right now, Cinco. Don't let the spark die out.

[Mastervoodoo]

Perhaps these drop rates would be fine in 2010 or 2011 but in 2019 when the playerbase is far less than what it once was, this is not okay. The way it is currently set up, it is the hardest of any cap in PL history thus far to drop the best gear. You could replace the setup with any other cap and have a better chance of dropping the best gear.

In a few days, maybe a few weeks, this new cap will become an afterthought - the cap that the community was so eagerly waiting on since early this year. Many of the playerbase will feel defeated and stop playing once more.

You have a chance to fix this right now, Cinco. Don't let the spark die out.

First time I’ve ever seen so many restoration players disagreeing with how cinco has things set up. Many in apex are quitting as well , some I hardly ever see anymore, a couple who fast cap are refusing to even log on telling me to consistently check forums for them to let them know if things change lol.. I’m on my last string . Im spending a lot of my times on countless runs at this point. The orbs are nice and I’m almsot to 110, but out of maybe 47-60ish runs that I’ve done, I’ve received one legendary Dex armor lol, 3rd tier down. I’m fixing to give up as well and move onto console gaming .

[Mastervoodoo]

I do believe you. You don't seem to believe that I believe you. Given how it's set up - it should take months to get a full set of the best gear. I think I already said this somewhere else.

As dolloway stated it’s dying already, and I’m hoping you’re giving me an honest response, why months? What makes in necessary to make it take months for more than just a couple players to finally have a full elite set? And for maybe a couple of mythicals to be floating about. We were teased with this cap for months on end with deadline changing constantly .. and what? 100 players or more fast capped form anticipation of how awesome the gear would be just to be let down knowing it’s going to take months of hard work? Not to mention I see the same players on a day by day basis. There’s maybe 75 dedicated players of pl that are on daily at random times.. other than that the game has become to difficult and is dying, what’s the point in letting this happen , I can’t even get into a full party because all my clan mates say it’s pointless to waste their time. And no one is pvping either . Was this a last hoorah to make sts a few grand then call it quits lol.

[Chaasivab]

I do believe you. You don't seem to believe that I believe you. Given how it's set up - it should take months to get a full set of the best gear. I think I already said this somewhere else.

Will you please tell it one more time for the people in the back I think they don’t understand what you are saying!!!

At this rate I hope all you people threatening to quit actually do so I don’t have to listen to your garbage anymore. Pvp is a privilege that you get from grinding hard to get gear. If you don’t want to do that play honor or be quiet.

Cinco isn’t going to ruin PvE because PvP people are to lazy to play the game hard and earn the ability to get elite and mythic pvp gear.

Y’all keep saying up the drop rate to fuel your own agenda for pvp well I hope cinco doesn’t do that because that is completely dumb.

I’ll say it again for the people in the back IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE CAP AND CONTENT QUIT THE GAME AND GET OFF THE FORUMS WE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU.

Please hate on me some more I love to use your tears in my cereal for breakfast!

[burntoutdex]

Will you please tell it one more time for the people in the back I think they don’t understand what you are saying!!!

At this rate I hope all you people threatening to quit actually do so I don’t have to listen to your garbage anymore. Pvp is a privilege that you get from grinding hard to get gear. If you don’t want to do that play honor or be quiet.

Cinco isn’t going to ruin PvE because PvP people are to lazy to play the game hard and earn the ability to get elite and mythic pvp gear.

Y’all keep saying up the drop rate to fuel your own agenda for pvp well I hope cinco doesn’t do that because that is completely dumb.

I’ll say it again for the people in the back IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE CAP AND CONTENT QUIT THE GAME AND GET OFF THE FORUMS WE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU.

Please hate on me some more I love to use your tears in my cereal for breakfast!

still typing in capslock I see.

[XghostzX]

still typing in capslock I see.

#11chars

[Waydog]

Will you please tell it one more time for the people in the back I think they don’t understand what you are saying!!!

At this rate I hope all you people threatening to quit actually do so I don’t have to listen to your garbage anymore. Pvp is a privilege that you get from grinding hard to get gear. If you don’t want to do that play honor or be quiet.

Cinco isn’t going to ruin PvE because PvP people are to lazy to play the game hard and earn the ability to get elite and mythic pvp gear.

Y’all keep saying up the drop rate to fuel your own agenda for pvp well I hope cinco doesn’t do that because that is completely dumb.

I’ll say it again for the people in the back IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE CAP AND CONTENT QUIT THE GAME AND GET OFF THE FORUMS WE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU.

Please hate on me some more I love to use your tears in my cereal for breakfast!

You obviously don’t know what its like to have everything handed to you your whole life, and because of that, your opinion is invalid and you just wasted all of that time making that post. You just wouldn’t understand, I’m sorry.

[Faq]

Will you please tell it one more time for the people in the back I think they don’t understand what you are saying!!!

At this rate I hope all you people threatening to quit actually do so I don’t have to listen to your garbage anymore. Pvp is a privilege that you get from grinding hard to get gear. If you don’t want to do that play honor or be quiet.

Cinco isn’t going to ruin PvE because PvP people are to lazy to play the game hard and earn the ability to get elite and mythic pvp gear.

Y’all keep saying up the drop rate to fuel your own agenda for pvp well I hope cinco doesn’t do that because that is completely dumb.

I’ll say it again for the people in the back IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE CAP AND CONTENT QUIT THE GAME AND GET OFF THE FORUMS WE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU.

Please hate on me some more I love to use your tears in my cereal for breakfast!

In before this thread gets locked.

But actually though, I think your being slightly naive thinking that this game would be able to sustain itself without the pvp community, or pve community for that matter. Low level pvp is essentially dead, bringing all the action to endgame and you have a lot of players, like Ghost mentioned earlier, that just like to hop on for an hour or two here or there to pvp with their friends.

This cap is driving away the casual player base that is the foundation of this game. You could probably count on your hands the number of people that are content with this cap and are going to farm consistently for the next 5 months to get a set. All this disdain between pvp and pve community is ridiculous, to have a healthy game you need both aspects. There just isn't the player base to sustain a purely pve based game.

There really isn't a great way for me to prove this until it's too late. If the drop rates don't change in the next couple of weeks you will start see towns empty out and runs dry up. As much as you like to think you live in a little snow globe insulated from the problems of others, you really do rely on the community as a whole. I have said all I can to cinco but I would urge pve players like yourself to recognize the situation for what it is.

[Kazori]

Will you please tell it one more time for the people in the back I think they don’t understand what you are saying!!!

At this rate I hope all you people threatening to quit actually do so I don’t have to listen to your garbage anymore. Pvp is a privilege that you get from grinding hard to get gear. If you don’t want to do that play honor or be quiet.

Cinco isn’t going to ruin PvE because PvP people are to lazy to play the game hard and earn the ability to get elite and mythic pvp gear.

Y’all keep saying up the drop rate to fuel your own agenda for pvp well I hope cinco doesn’t do that because that is completely dumb.

I’ll say it again for the people in the back IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE CAP AND CONTENT QUIT THE GAME AND GET OFF THE FORUMS WE ARE BETTER OFF WITHOUT YOU.

Please hate on me some more I love to use your tears in my cereal for breakfast!

And when game is a ghost town and when nobody wants to play and you are alone in a map with Ebonthrax and cant even kill him cuz you want to farm your heart out for trash drops then you will only have yourself to blame

[largecommander]

I do believe you. You don't seem to believe that I believe you. Given how it's set up - it should take months to get a full set of the best gear. I think I already said this somewhere else.

please PLEASE cinco make the drops easier to get there are only ones from free chests in game right now

please listen to your playerbase and help us. we are the ones who play your game!

PLEASE.

[Aoeqt]

Tbh pinks really aren’t even that hard to drop. It’s random luck yes, I’ve had 20 dry runs in a row with nothing dropping, others we received 6 pinks in 8 runs.

The whole saying “Ebonthrax takes 10 minutes to kill” is a bit overshot, even after the buff I’ve had groups where we take him down right at the 1 minute mark, yes we had x2/x3 daily combo’s, no we were not all fully geared in elite’s etc.

If someone truly loves PvE, as you claim he does above, then he should understand the hard grind with which he will cross paths during this cap. If it’s only 1 pink in 100 runs as a group total I find that extremely hard to believe, if you personally only get 1 pink in 100 runs then you can only blame your own luck, nothing else.

[3pc]

Cinco u keep referring back to the 105 cap regarding sets but i dont really see the problem with it. Everyone had sets during 105 which gave people to the pleasure to PvE or PvP while they were reasonably priced 15-35m+(depending on enchats) our only problem was the procs in PvP when it was so obvious dex talon set was the most op. I dont think set farming and all that was ever the problem. But like we suggested keep vanitys on the loot table and others etc and people will be farming for ages (especially if there is 10 diff types of unique vanitys set at very low drop rates like mytbics atm).

[Fwend]

The hardest thing to determine about the entire PL community, and how they feel about this new cap is difficult. Considering many do no even voice their opinions on forums at all, even discord many are shy to speak out openly.

It is clear a apparent that many who have little time are finding the new mechanics of gaining xp and obtaining the best loot Mythic gear is very difficult especially when they do not have the time. Their motivation is being crushed by the difficulty in the huge amount of xp needed for each level as well as the little xp received the traditional way of leveling.

The xp orbs have returned but are only a chance drop from the bosses on each map.

With the nature of the game and the introduction of The Warlord's Prison map where xp orbs where looted easily from mobs and the boss dropped 20k xp orbs.

The addition of Oktal Odyssey Maps: Basin, Bayou and Bog, where the xp orbs where plentiful as well and from the boss.

Furthermore the Premium Platinum Map of MAXX CAVE TICKET for 20 plat.

All these wonderful new easy maps of gaining XP so quickly within a few hours, made it extremely easy to cap and level up.

I feel many within the community now want and expect the same time frame to level up now.

Cinco, I understand why the mechanics of XP and loot has been made more difficult for this campaign. It stems down to wanting our community to grind and work for what we desire with the purpose of keeping us occupied with the challenge.

Some of us are up to this challenge and have spent real life money on the game to gain the fast cap within the first week, others planned their time to grind hard and spend in game gold with the use of Xp Elixir Flasks to expedite their experience gain.

STS even introduced the most modest quest line in the new campaign to award any new character that unlocked the campaign and went through the quests over 6 million in gold and one free silver dragon chest and a gold dragon chest to open with no platinum.


My suggestion is a new premium platinum map for this campaign.

One which has more mini bosses as well as a boss that all have a chance to loot all drops on game including Mythic items and high xp orb amount 20k maximum, as well as mobs that drop xp orbs for those still requiring to cap to level 110.

This way the player base who are willing to spend real life money on the game can advance faster and are supporting the game.

[burntoutdex]

The hardest thing to determine about the entire PL community, and how they feel about this new cap is difficult. Considering many do no even voice their opinions on forums at all, even discord many are shy to speak out openly.

It is clear a apparent that many who have little time are finding the new mechanics of gaining xp and obtaining the best loot Mythic gear is very difficult especially when they do not have the time. Their motivation is being crushed by the difficulty in the huge amount of xp needed for each level as well as the little xp received the traditional way of leveling.

The xp orbs have returned but are only a chance drop from the bosses on each map.

With the nature of the game and the introduction of The Warlord's Prison map where xp orbs where looted easily from mobs and the boss dropped 20k xp orbs.

The addition of Oktal Odyssey Maps: Basin, Bayou and Bog, where the xp orbs where plentiful as well and from the boss.

Furthermore the Premium Platinum Map of MAXX CAVE TICKET for 20 plat.

All these wonderful new easy maps of gaining XP so quickly within a few hours, made it extremely easy to cap and level up.

I feel many within the community now want and expect the same time frame to level up now.

Cinco, I understand why the mechanics of XP and loot has been made more difficult for this campaign. It stems down to wanting our community to grind and work for what we desire with the purpose of keeping us occupied with the challenge.

Some of us are up to this challenge and have spent real life money on the game to gain the fast cap within the first week, others planned their time to grind hard and spend in game gold with the use of Xp Elixir Flasks to expedite their experience gain.

STS even introduced the most modest quest line in the new campaign to award any new character that unlocked the campaign and went through the quests over 6 million in gold and one free silver dragon chest and a gold dragon chest to open with no platinum.


My suggestion is a new premium platinum map for this campaign.

One which has more mini bosses as well as a boss that all have a chance to loot all drops on game including Mythic items and high xp orb amount 20k maximum, as well as mobs that drop xp orbs for those still requiring to cap to level 110.

This way the player base who are willing to spend real life money on the game can advance faster and are supporting the game.

but I thought you said the power of friendship would help us drop mythics?