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    This thread shows who are the lazy ones and expect things to just fall on their lap XD Yes the spiders got more hp but thats where the challenge is. Heck, I dont even have most of the high end gears and I still managed it with a decent pt. Learn new tactics people, not just tap tap blindfolded. smh... Im happy with the way elite gates is currently.
    New elites have always been hard at the start and its kinda embarassing to see old players complaing about the current ones lol. I guess it proves not all old is gold XD

    Want to make some gold in elites and elite gates is too stressfull, then try it in elite frontier. Much more managable imo with decent gears.

    Everything changes eventually and over time you will be able to get top gears and manage.

    Or keep crying us a river...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaprisha View Post
    This thread shows who are the lazy ones and expect things to just fall on their lap XD Yes the spiders got more hp but thats where the challenge is. Heck, I dont even have most of the high end gears and I still managed it with a decent pt. Learn new tactics people, not just tap tap blindfolded. smh... Im happy with the way elite gates is currently.
    New elites have always been hard at the start and its kinda embarassing to see old players complaing about the current ones lol. I guess it proves not all old is gold XD

    Want to make some gold in elites and elite gates is too stressfull, then try it in elite frontier. Much more managable imo with decent gears.

    Everything changes eventually and over time you will be able to get top gears and manage.

    Or keep crying us a river...
    Exactly what I thought. I wonder when and why people went from "this is hard, looks like achallenging map i should aim at" to "this is hard, lets go to forums and try to get the map nerfed and easier". Probably because people got so comfortable with running easy maps all day for the last years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseT View Post
    Exactly what I thought. I wonder when and why people went from "this is hard, looks like achallenging map i should aim at" to "this is hard, lets go to forums and try to get the map nerfed and easier". Probably because people got so comfortable with running easy maps all day for the last years.
    It was fun when we worked hard to complete a map and died a few times. Now its you run out of time or die once and you are done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaprisha View Post
    This thread shows who are the lazy ones and expect things to just fall on their lap XD Yes the spiders got more hp but thats where the challenge is. Heck, I dont even have most of the high end gears and I still managed it with a decent pt. Learn new tactics people, not just tap tap blindfolded. smh... Im happy with the way elite gates is currently.
    New elites have always been hard at the start and its kinda embarassing to see old players complaing about the current ones lol. I guess it proves not all old is gold XD

    Want to make some gold in elites and elite gates is too stressfull, then try it in elite frontier. Much more managable imo with decent gears.

    Everything changes eventually and over time you will be able to get top gears and manage.

    Or keep crying us a river...
    Try to solo it, tell me how far you get. Whats the highest wave you have gotten in a pt for me it was 13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    Try to solo it, tell me how far you get. Whats the highest wave you have gotten in a pt for me it was 13.
    With pt at wave 10. didnt expect to get any further tbf but thats ok. Eventually we will get more waves with more lvls and gears.
    As for solo, Im not even gonna try with my gears lol. But that doesnt change anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaprisha View Post
    With pt at wave 10. didnt expect to get any further tbf but thats ok. Eventually we will get more waves with more lvls and gears.
    As for solo, Im not even gonna try with my gears lol. But that doesnt change anything.
    I would honestly be happy if they removed the spiders. This would even everything out. Also wave 10, we should atleast get to wave 20 at the minimum. Wave 10 is you kill 1 boss in wave 5 one boss maybe in wave 10 and make maybe 30k gold. Its easier to make gold in deep marsh.

    Lb should be competitive, not oh you got lucky you beat wave 5 now you can only make it to wave 10 and lose time and now everyone is 20-400pts apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    I would honestly be happy if they removed the spiders. This would even everything out. Also wave 10, we should atleast get to wave 20 at the minimum. Wave 10 is you kill 1 boss in wave 5 one boss maybe in wave 10 and make maybe 30k gold. Its easier to make gold in deep marsh.

    Lb should be competitive, not oh you got lucky you beat wave 5 now you can only make it to wave 10 and lose time and now everyone is 20-400pts apart.
    Competitive LB you say, yet theres suggestions to make it easier to get higher waves which would change what exactly? Getting a certain amount of points doesnt give you any special price. The most points wins, thats how it is. even if its a few points apart.

    Unless this is another conspiracy for certain players to match up points for lb ranks so more people get the badge.... >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaprisha View Post
    This thread shows who are the lazy ones and expect things to just fall on their lap XD Yes the spiders got more hp but thats where the challenge is. Heck, I dont even have most of the high end gears and I still managed it with a decent pt. Learn new tactics people, not just tap tap blindfolded. smh... Im happy with the way elite gates is currently.
    The thing is, there is nothing that’s “challenging” about the valley elites. You either have the gear to burst the boss + spiders before the timer ends, or you don’t.

    There are no new tactics gameplay-wise in valley other than spamming your skills as a rogue, because that’s the nature of the map. There is no mob diversity. Speaking from a rogue’s perspective, our job has always been to assassinate high threat enemies. Unlike in Maus where quickly killing mage + witch mobs will result in faster runs, we can only spam skills to maximise our dmg in valley. The only interactive aspects are ult timing and not getting stunned to maximise dmg. Death might be an issue, but that is also heavily based on gear.

    Many people are complaining because there is limited INCENTIVE to play the new elites. I only run maps if they provide good rewards, or are fun and skill demanding. Having both is a plus! Elite valley offers none of those yet, other than APs, which I don’t invest my time into.

    I blame the nature of wave-orientated maps like valley gates, where a huge emphasis is placed on gear. They have a timer, a lack of mob diversity, and are much more repetitive. To make things worse, the powerful procs that the new arcane weapons offer renders anyone who cannot afford high end weapons useless in those maps.

    Many people have came up with great suggestions, and I hope that STS would try their best to balance things out.
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