Age Requirement for Dark Legends?

**Ardon** · 03-01-2012, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Taipan

Ummm why is everyone acting like it has already been made 17+?

It's all just hypothetically talk with some support for it. We have no real solid info that it will be 17+ but it is kinda suggested that it will be more mature and the trailer and website are suggestive.

**Elyseon** · 03-01-2012, 06:45 PM

We are just hoping for it.

**razerfingers** · 03-01-2012, 06:50 PM

I sense a lot of ignorance in this thread just sayin.. and if its the law cool i mean if dl is so epic ill just have my dad download it no harm no foul i got parent consent to play it what can sts do about that? Umm id say nothing but thats me. And ive seen quite a few older players way less mature than me so yeah..

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**Elyseon** · 03-01-2012, 07:06 PM

The fact is the law is the law, and it isnt designed specifically for you or for me. Some people can drink alcohol and control themselves so they can still drive a car safely. Some people can text and still focus on the road. But those people still have to abide by the laws.

The issue is also that the government just doesnt want kids to be unnecessarily exposed to violence, sure you can handle but what about the kid that makes it his life so much he becomes a serial killers (yes i know the example is extreme). The governments in charge whether we like it or not. When you're 18 you can vote for politician in favor of lowering game ratings.

**razerfingers** · 03-01-2012, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Elyseon

The fact is the law is the law, and it isnt designed specifically for you or for me. Some people can drink alcohol and control themselves so they can still drive a car safely. Some people can text and still focus on the road. But those people still have to abide by the laws.

The issue is also that the government just doesnt want kids to be unnecessarily exposed to violence, sure you can handle but what about the kid that makes it his life so much he becomes a serial killers (yes i know the example is extreme). The governments in charge whether we like it or not. When you're 18 you can vote for politician in favor of lowering game ratings.

Whether its game raring or not i can have a parent with me and buy a 17+ game with m money so back to parent consent STS cant ban me because my dad says i can play this game and the rating is over reacting just to not get sued so still they cant really do anything in my opinion if my dad says i can play it. Also there is suggestive themes in star legends you dont see me complaining that it should be 17+ so why is that video on the site 17+? When there the female characters in sl show more than that lol thats my observation

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**Ardon** · 03-01-2012, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by razerfingers

Whether its game raring or not i can have a parent with me and buy a 17+ game with m money so back to parent consent STS cant ban me because my dad says i can play this game and the rating is over reacting just to not get sued so still they cant really do anything in my opinion if my dad says i can play it. Also there is suggestive themes in star legends you dont see me complaining that it should be 17+ so why is that video on the site 17+? When there the female characters in sl show more than that lol thats my observation

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The difference is that nothing is really known on the Internet. People lie, so when age comes into play, it's a solid hammer, no "but my parents downloaded it"

Lies exist abundantly and you can never know the truth so when someone says they're underage on a forum they'd be banned. That's that.

**razerfingers** · 03-01-2012, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Ardon

The difference is that nothing is really known on the Internet. People lie, so when age comes into play, it's a solid hammer, no "but my parents downloaded it"

Lies exist abundantly and you can never know the truth so when someone says they're underage on a forum they'd be banned. That's that.

Yeah but whos gonna say they're younger than the age requirement? And how they gonna check everyone that downloads it even if they dont have a forum account.

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**Elyseon** · 03-01-2012, 07:46 PM

True actually ratings have no legal right(edit) at all, so my previous post was somewhat innacurrate, the government only put restrictions on the privacy of those below 13.

However STS could require an age limit in the ToS like they do now and they could require you to be 17 atleast. After reading up on some legal stuff and ratings, I doubt they will do this(although i wouldnt mind it). it could get a higher rating in which case what you said would work.

**StompArtist** · 03-01-2012, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Elyseon

True actually ratings have no legal influence at all, so my previous post was somewhat innacurrate, the government only put restrictions on the privacy of those below 13.

However STS could require an age limit in the ToS like they do now and they could require you to be 17 atleast. After reading up on some legal stuff and ratings, I doubt they will do this(although i wouldnt mind it). it could get a higher rating in which case what you said would work.

The markets enforce having an age rating. What people do with age rated product is up to them. What the law does state is that chat features make games and website at least 13+ and knowledge of an underage chatter requires the website to get rid of the youngster.

**Elyseon** · 03-01-2012, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by StompArtist:580787

Originally Posted by Elyseon

True actually ratings have no legal influence at all, so my previous post was somewhat innacurrate, the government only put restrictions on the privacy of those below 13.

However STS could require an age limit in the ToS like they do now and they could require you to be 17 atleast. After reading up on some legal stuff and ratings, I doubt they will do this(although i wouldnt mind it). it could get a higher rating in which case what you said would work.

The markets enforce having an age rating. What people do with age rated product is up to them. What the law does state is that chat features make games and website at least 13+ and knowledge of an underage chatter requires the website to get rid of the youngster.

Yes markets and retail places will often require an age limit, but it isnt illegal to buy them still, you would just take a lot of pressure if you sold any game to anyone. The legal issue actually restricts what can be known of kids under 13, easiest way to fix it is require 13+

**razerfingers** · 03-01-2012, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Elyseon

True actually ratings have no legal right(edit) at all, so my previous post was somewhat innacurrate, the government only put restrictions on the privacy of those below 13.

However STS could require an age limit in the ToS like they do now and they could require you to be 17 atleast. After reading up on some legal stuff and ratings, I doubt they will do this(although i wouldnt mind it). it could get a higher rating in which case what you said would work.

Im saying like that video on website i watched it with my dad and i was like its no diffrent than my highschool without the blood and no diffrent than the cleavage on sl lol

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**Appleisaac** · 03-01-2012, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by razerfingers

Im saying like that video on website i watched it with my dad and i was like its no diffrent than my highschool without the blood and no diffrent than the cleavage on sl lol

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He has a point about the sl cleavage XD

**Lowlyspy** · 03-01-2012, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by razerfingers

Yeah but whos gonna say they're younger than the age requirement? And how they gonna check everyone that downloads it even if they dont have a forum account.

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Actually quite a few people say their ages both ingame and on the forums all the time. Need i remind you when Pandar told everyone about the 13+ requirement on the forums and ingame and Veoveoveo came forward, accepting the rules and what would happen if he did, and told them he was under age. IMO that is a very honorable thing to do and despite the fact that Veo got banned until he was of age i have the utmost respect for him because of that. Raze, do what you want but if I see anyone under the age limit of DL (whatever it turns out to be) i will report them, and if it does turn out to be 17+ and i see you ingame knowing full well you are breaking the rating, i will not hesitate to report you. Nothing personal.

**Appleisaac** · 03-01-2012, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by StompArtist

The markets enforce having an age rating. What people do with age rated product is up to them. What the law does state is that chat features make games and website at least 13+ and knowledge of an underage chatter requires the website to get rid of the youngster.

Wait a second... So if the government doesn't care about age restrictions (other then chat being 13+) why is everyone saying you will be banned if your under 17?

**Ardon** · 03-01-2012, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Appleisaac

Wait a second... So if the government doesn't care about age restrictions (other then chat being 13+) why is everyone saying you will be banned if your under 17?

13+ means If you're under 13 you're banned.

17+ means it you're under 17 you get banned

We don't know the rating yet, but it seems to be more mature and gory than SL and PL. It may be 17+ so yeah

**Appleisaac** · 03-01-2012, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Ardon

13+ means If you're under 13 you're banned.

17+ means it you're under 17 you get banned

We don't know the rating yet, but it seems to be more mature and gory than SL and PL. It may be 17+ so yeah

:-/ didn't really answer question...

**razerfingers** · 03-01-2012, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Lowlyspy

Actually quite a few people say their ages both ingame and on the forums all the time. Need i remind you when Pandar told everyone about the 13+ requirement on the forums and ingame and Veoveoveo came forward, accepting the rules and what would happen if he did, and told them he was under age. IMO that is a very honorable thing to do and despite the fact that Veo got banned until he was of age i have the utmost respect for him because of that. Raze, do what you want but if I see anyone under the age limit of DL (whatever it turns out to be) i will report them, and if it does turn out to be 17+ and i see you ingame knowing full well you are breaking the rating, i will not hesitate to report you. Nothing personal.

Fine by me and ill know who helped get me banned nothin personal i might be mad for a little bit ill be using a nw ign so challege accepted :P and also how are they gonna ban me from DL and make it to where i can still play PL and SL? Hmmm kinda puts them in a pickle to ban or not.

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**Lowlyspy** · 03-01-2012, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Appleisaac

:-/ didn't really answer question...

The government does care about it. There's a difference between buying console game (going to gamestop and buying the disc) and playing an MMO like PL. If you are under the rating then without a parent or legal guardian there to give you the ok the cashier is not legally allowed to sell you the game (like a 16 year old trying to buy dead space without their parents). To my understanding it doesn't matter if your parents give you the okay for something like PL since there is no real way to confirm whether your parents really did give you permission or not, so if you are caught playing while you are under the rating they will ban you until you are legally allowed to play so to protect themselves from getting a hefty fine.

Originally Posted by razerfingers

Fine by me and ill know who helped get me banned nothin personal i might be mad for a little bit ill be using a nw ign so challege accepted :P and also how are they gonna ban me from DL and make it to where i can still play PL and SL? Hmmm kinda puts them in a pickle to ban or not.

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I'm certain they can find a way.

**Ardon** · 03-01-2012, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by razerfingers

Fine by me and ill know who helped get me banned nothin personal i might be mad for a little bit ill be using a nw ign so challege accepted :P and also how are they gonna ban me from DL and make it to where i can still play PL and SL? Hmmm kinda puts them in a pickle to ban or not.

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Unless it's an IP/device ban I don't see the problem in banning someone from different games.

As per changing IGNs, that account would be banned and you'd have to restart. And the chance of it happening again is always there

**Appleisaac** · 03-01-2012, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Elyseon

True actually ratings have no legal right(edit) at all, so my previous post was somewhat innacurrate, the government only put restrictions on the privacy of those below 13.

However STS could require an age limit in the ToS like they do now and they could require you to be 17 atleast. After reading up on some legal stuff and ratings, I doubt they will do this(although i wouldnt mind it). it could get a higher rating in which case what you said would work.

@lowly
so does this mean that this post^ is wrong?