What weapon is best used on Bosses?

**Elixirgod** · 04-12-2012, 09:49 PM

Can I have everyone's opinion, does anyone know which weapon is best used on bosses? Thanks :)

**Nick41324** · 04-12-2012, 10:00 PM

What level are you? Str is usually best at low level (1-40). At around level 40, dex longbows are very good.

**Appleisaac** · 04-13-2012, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by Elixirgod

I think it might be bows but I might be not to sure if it could be crossbows or talons. HELP!

The weapon with the highest dps that is still dealing damage ^_^. A dagger might have high dps, but it will deal about 2-3 damage on most of the bosses under lv 40.

**Livemau** · 04-14-2012, 11:08 AM

In most cases a dagger is best used if you arent afraid to get hit. In mount fang when I do the corner trick on the Duke dagger gives the highest dps I will make a youtube video on it.

**Windwaiker** · 04-14-2012, 07:28 PM

You can use whatever weapon you want until higher levels. Then you'll have to use a bow for count vlod or Von gobble, unless you like instant death.

**FluffNStuff** · 04-14-2012, 07:31 PM

Hammer time! Stun that boss into a dazed stupor!

**Elixirgod** · 05-24-2012, 05:22 PM

Thx guys for helping!

**Livemau** · 05-24-2012, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Elixirgod

Thx guys for helping!

Lol now hes confused we gave him like 10 different answers

**Elixirgod** · 05-24-2012, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Livemau

Lol now hes confused we gave him like 10 different answers

LOL... He's Right.

**Marinemaraudermedivac** · 05-28-2012, 07:37 PM

Longbow ftw

**Elixirgod** · 05-28-2012, 07:46 PM

Thanks; also I'm a level 49 bird bu I posted this around level 40 or something but I am still open to opinions!

**JaytB** · 05-28-2012, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Elixirgod

Thanks; also I'm a level 49 bird bu I posted this around level 40 or something but I am still open to opinions!

I don't agree with some posts here about dps. Bosses generally have high armor, and real dmg = dmg - enemy armor. So you'll need high base dmg numbers (min/max dmg), instead of high dps. Dps is simply weapon speed * average dmg (=(max dmg + min dmg)/2). So, daggers for example, usually give high dps because of the fast weapon speed, but do very little in therms of real dmg, because of their low 'base' dmg. This holds especially true for bosses, because their armor is generally very high.

Second, there's skill dmg, bows generally add waaaay more to your skill dmg than any dagger or talon. and bringing a boss down, generally again, depends much more on skill dmg as compared to weapon dmg.

So, what should you look for? Basically anything that gives you:
* high skill dmg (seen in your skill page)
* high base dmg (min/max dmg, but would come second to skill dmg)
* high crit (dmg dealt = double if you crit)

At lvl 50, highest dmg 'sets' are the expensive sentinel set or the cheap(er), but still very powerful, void set. Sentinel, would be the one with shotgun, while void would be the one with (cheap) void bow.

**United** · 05-29-2012, 08:57 AM

if there is a good tanker.
bows + spamming breakarmor, Root, Blindshot, Cruel Blast is the best to kill bosses

**StompArtist** · 05-29-2012, 08:58 AM

The fabled Torch of speed.

**Elixirgod** · 05-30-2012, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by JaytB

I don't agree with some posts here about dps. Bosses generally have high armor, and real dmg = dmg - enemy armor. So you'll need high base dmg numbers (min/max dmg), instead of high dps. Dps is simply weapon speed * average dmg (=(max dmg + min dmg)/2). So, daggers for example, usually give high dps because of the fast weapon speed, but do very little in therms of real dmg, because of their low 'base' dmg. This holds especially true for bosses, because their armor is generally very high.

Second, there's skill dmg, bows generally add waaaay more to your skill dmg than any dagger or talon. and bringing a boss down, generally again, depends much more on skill dmg as compared to weapon dmg.

So, what should you look for? Basically anything that gives you:
* high skill dmg (seen in your skill page)
* high base dmg (min/max dmg, but would come second to skill dmg)
* high crit (dmg dealt = double if you crit)

At lvl 50, highest dmg 'sets' are the expensive sentinel set or the cheap(er), but still very powerful, void set. Sentinel, would be the one with shotgun, while void would be the one with (cheap) void bow.

I wouldnt call it cheap....

**Chopper** · 06-03-2012, 04:10 PM

In Fang, dex longbow seems to be the most effective in delivering damage

EXCEPT for Aunt Emma. I carry around the Crafted 65 Longbow for every mob and boss in Fang, except her. I also carry around a Crafted Crossbow, which i switch to to fight Emma.

Only because of Emma's area attack, which kills birds pretty much instantly. I use the corssbow so i can sit in the corner, further away, and survive with pots and heals, while still firing away. The Longbow range is too short too sit in the corner and i get killed about 5 times more with it against her.

**Moogerfooger** · 06-03-2012, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Chopper

In Fang, dex longbow seems to be the most effective in delivering damage

EXCEPT for Aunt Emma. I carry around the Crafted 65 Longbow for every mob and boss in Fang, except her. I also carry around a Crafted Crossbow, which i switch to to fight Emma.

Only because of Emma's area attack, which kills birds pretty much instantly. I use the corssbow so i can sit in the corner, further away, and survive with pots and heals, while still firing away. The Longbow range is too short too sit in the corner and i get killed about 5 times more with it against her.

I will have to disagree. The Sang Longbow has a significantly higher base damage and a much faster speed than the Sang Crossbow. The ONLY advantage to the Crossbow is that it has abt a 12-13m range vs like 9m-ish for the Longbow. But you do not have to stand in the actual corner itself, with a Longbow...stand just outside the range of her brighter "inner" ring of blue faces that she kicks out (you will still get hit by some of the bigger rings of damage), but with some potting, one can easily survive with no elixir and deal MUCH more damage with a Sang Longbow. Done it a hundred times and only die if I try to cute and get too close to her.

**StompArtist** · 06-03-2012, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Moogerfooger

I will have to disagree. The Sang Longbow has a significantly higher base damage and a much faster speed than the Sang Crossbow. The ONLY advantage to the Crossbow is that it has abt a 12-13m range vs like 9m-ish for the Longbow. But you do not have to stand in the actual corner itself, with a Longbow...stand just outside the range of her brighter "inner" ring of blue faces that she kicks out (you will still get hit by some of the bigger rings of damage), but with some potting, one can easily survive with no elixir and deal MUCH more damage with a Sang Longbow. Done it a hundred times and only die if I try to cute and get too close to her.

If it isn't Moog! Long time no see! Cheers!

**Windwaiker** · 06-03-2012, 09:22 PM

Hiding in the corner fighting Aunt Emma doesn't do anything. I still get as much damage when i run along the wall and shoot with a longbow. Longbows are probably the best bet for all bosses. The only boss where a crossbow may be preferred is Count Vlod for kiting.

**Chopper** · 06-03-2012, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Windwaiker

Hiding in the corner fighting Aunt Emma doesn't do anything. I still get as much damage when i run along the wall and shoot with a longbow. Longbows are probably the best bet for all bosses. The only boss where a crossbow may be preferred is Count Vlod for kiting.

Weird, because with the long bow at maximum range, i get killed much more, using about 20 health pots to beat emma. With the crossbow in th corner, i can defeat her using only about 4 or 5 pots. Much less damage in my experience, which is why i spent the money for the crafted crossbow