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    Default Player vs Player, what levels can play with each other, now?!

    Okay. As a seasoned twinker.. Obviously I know that STS has generally done 5 levels +/- the level of the host can join a game. So I figured that's what it would be in DL, too. This question is more for Devs than other players..
    So, yesterday I was playing PvP with my character, Hades, and just as the game started, a level three joined the game. Now, I was level 11, so I didn't think much about it. But a few minutes later, a level 15 joined our team. And now I'm confused. Was this a glitch in the system or something? Or is PvP all levels playin together? :/

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    once i was 14 and i played with a bunch of 3s and 5s and i obviously wrecked

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    Elyseon ( Level 21 ) Was fighting 3's 5's and a couple 10+s it's any level i'm 100% sure of this statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysony View Post
    Elyseon ( Level 21 ) Was fighting 3's 5's and a couple 10+s it's any level i'm 100% sure of this statement.
    lol then this is really unbalanced

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elysony View Post
    Elyseon ( Level 21 ) Was fighting 3's 5's and a couple 10+s it's any level i'm 100% sure of this statement.
    Well that's no good..

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    Its hard to believe they let something like this go throw to release. I'm guessing that they wanted to keep queue times down, but playing in a game with a lvl 17 2-shotting lvl 3s is not fun. Probably the reason why so many people leave.

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    We didn't intend that, will look in to it. Thanks guys!

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    hmm. so this is why high levelled players get so high kills that fast o_o
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    It feels like it's better... played a few games where its all 15+.

    Another had a 5(I'm 15), and I'm wondering if it's now + or - 5.

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    Hope it will be like pl & sl. Only 5 lvl's higher or lower then the creator of map.
    Well don't think we can creat maps they are kinda like hidden passage on pl. Like u join a existing game right?

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    So it turns out that I misunderstood the system a little bit. It's based on the level of the first player that enters the map and then anyone that's 5 levels below or above that player can join. That's feels a bit loose to me, so I'm going to change it to only allow players 3 levels lower or higher than the first player to enter. That way at least the lowest a level 20 player will get to play with is 14, not 10.

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    That still seems way too broad a range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripper McGee View Post
    That still seems way too broad a range.
    This, in DL levels seem to give much more of an advantage than in PL/SL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swede:623820
    So it turns out that I misunderstood the system a little bit. It's based on the level of the first player that enters the map and then anyone that's 5 levels below or above that player can join. That's feels a bit loose to me, so I'm going to change it to only allow players 3 levels lower or higher than the first player to enter. That way at least the lowest a level 20 player will get to play with is 14, not 10.
    Three levels sounds good, do less and we will be waiting ages to get three people on each side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swede View Post
    So it turns out that I misunderstood the system a little bit. It's based on the level of the first player that enters the map and then anyone that's 5 levels below or above that player can join. That's feels a bit loose to me, so I'm going to change it to only allow players 3 levels lower or higher than the first player to enter. That way at least the lowest a level 20 player will get to play with is 14, not 10.
    I'm happy to hear that.

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    it's kinda quiet for the arena that i go into as i am 21. like a dead town..

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    I've never actually seen a lvl 21 in CTF. Do they play in their own instance or something?

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    i just played a few games. lowest lv in the game is like lv 17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swede View Post
    So it turns out that I misunderstood the system a little bit. It's based on the level of the first player that enters the map and then anyone that's 5 levels below or above that player can join. That's feels a bit loose to me, so I'm going to change it to only allow players 3 levels lower or higher than the first player to enter. That way at least the lowest a level 20 player will get to play with is 14, not 10.
    When will this take place? Last night I started a game (im lvl 14) and a lvl 20 and 6 joined my teamed.

    I don't mint the big lvl gap at all cuz i do vey well vs most.

    P.S. to the players, if sts makes the lvl cap to small the will be a lot longer wait times for games to start. True story
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    There's something else also wrong in there. I'm far too often unable to join the same match again when switching teams. With too often I'm implying that I don't believe that the fight I was in suddenly got full while I did the rejoin routine.

    It's relatively obnoxious because far too many lamers join the team with more players already in it. Couldn't that be disallowed? I cannot picture a situation where a 3 vs 4 fight needed to be made a 5 vs 3. And in most circumstances I've seen it takes less than a minute and it's 5 vs 2 or worse.

    While at it, how about a "switch side" button or capability? So that we can balance the teams out ourselves. It's quite cumbersome now to first go to the sanctuary and then run to pvp arena and hope to make it back. And far to often I end up in a new instance, and only when lucky another match with players in it.
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