Severe Vanity problem

**Irg** · 09-08-2021, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Tiger Mike

I don't agree it did made it worse, I have seen many houses with plenty of glint aegis, lucky golem, terror blades,kershal staff, etc on the walls doing nothing but getting dusty and then when people ask in forums for these items to return everyone is against it because "Its not fair for collectors" or whatever .

Making anything rare hurts everyone.

then what's the point of rare vanities if they eventually come back? Stop whining Just go farm more and buy it with good price they will be a seller for everything. your justice is only beneficial to those who want to buy cheap

**Fastfire** · 09-08-2021, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Irg

then what's the point of rare vanities if they eventually come back? Stop whining Just go farm more and buy it with good price they will be a seller for everything. your justice is only beneficial to those who want to buy cheap

Not really think about it I play as rouge and I choose free to play. Some people spend real money I have nothing against that but its a playstyle. People like me who spend nothing in game and farm and merch our selves is at a major disadvantage.

Ur right people should farm. But to what degree a game is there to enjoy not to run the same map endlessly non stop

Also my point isn�t to have the vanities comeback my point is make it more available and add more new vanities. Most things can only be obtained with plat.

**YeaSheGamez** · 09-08-2021, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Tiger Mike

I don't agree it did made it worse, I have seen many houses with plenty of glint aegis, lucky golem, terror blades,kershal staff, etc on the walls doing nothing but getting dusty and then when people ask in forums for these items to return everyone is against it because "Its not fair for collectors" or whatever .

Making anything rare hurts everyone.

How did it make it worse? Its no different from people making multiple accounts to stash. Theres already an unlimited amount that people can hoard bc of this, only difference is now we can see them hoarding.

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**QuaseT** · 09-08-2021, 07:21 AM

-1 in general and especially for lb sets. Never seen a tradeable non-lb vanity that you cannot buy with gold if you search for it. Vanities that were not announced to be obtainable at one specific event only and are not lb items could be released in store a second time imo (personally against that still).

**Fastfire** · 09-08-2021, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by QuaseT

-1 in general and especially for lb sets. Never seen a tradeable non-lb vanity that you cannot buy with gold if you search for it. Vanities that were not announced to be obtainable at one specific event only and are not lb items could be released in store a second time imo (personally against that still).

How long is the search tho. I’ve looked 1 month spamming in maps and posting forums for the 5 items listed above and not even a reply. Maybe for mages it’s different buy for rouge the vanity lack is severe

**QuaseT** · 09-08-2021, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by Fastfire

How long is the search tho. I�ve looked 1 month spamming in maps and posting forums for the 5 items listed above and not even a reply. Maybe for mages it�s different buy for rouge the vanity lack is severe

It just depends on your offer and time. I own the wings you mentioned for mage and I dont see a reason why mage ones are easy to obtain and rogue is non-existent. Did you try to pm people in towns with those wings with your offer? Is the offer too low maybe?

**Switchback** · 09-08-2021, 01:27 PM

Wait untill new items come into game. When new things are brought in, especially if there is a good event going, the market opens up and you will see many more items for sale. Usually bigger priced items that are new promote buying and selling.
The past weeks haven't really drawn players to log in thus not as many items for sale.

Good Luck with your search. When expansion drops, you will see these items im sure.

**chiiwawa** · 09-08-2021, 01:55 PM

We could have a " Force everyone to sell thier stuff" event. o.o..

**Fastfire** · 09-08-2021, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by chiiwawa

We could have a " Force everyone to sell thier stuff" event. o.o..

Lmfaoo imagine lol

**Mcmikeguapo** · 09-08-2021, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by flashio

Ngl I would like to seep people's faces when they see lb vanity sets at vendor for 100k tokens while the token cap remains on 10k

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I was actually serious, increase the cap just to see how ppl grinds just to have a vanity, would be funny

**Encryptions** · 09-08-2021, 06:46 PM

A person who owns multiple of 1 item does not mean they should be shamed upon for hoarding the item nor shall they be forced to sell it. I am 100% sure every one in this thread has held more than 1 of a specific item before so they can wait for the price to go up and sell it.

**Fastfire** · 09-08-2021, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Encryptions

A person who owns multiple of 1 item does not mean they should be shamed upon for hoarding the item nor shall they be forced to sell it. I am 100% sure every one in this thread has held more than 1 of a specific item before so they can wait for the price to go up and sell it.

Not hold 9 and attempt to manipulate prices lol

**Encryptions** · 09-08-2021, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Fastfire

Not hold 9 and attempt to manipulate prices lol

Its not price manipulation to hold multiple of an item and sell it when it rises.
I advise lots of people to learn on how an economy works.

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**Fastfire** · 09-08-2021, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Encryptions

Its not price manipulation to hold multiple of an item and sell it when it rises.
I advise lots of people to learn on how an economy works.

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Still a attempt to manipulate the price and make profit the point of monopoly is to �control� manipulate the price

**Irg** · 09-08-2021, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Fastfire

Still a attempt to manipulate the price and make profit the point of monopoly is to “control” manipulate the price

manipulate, atleast in this game is to do fake offer or announce fake sales which should be shamed for
but hoarding is basically letting the community offer more WILLINGLY due to demand and supplies and doesn't deserve all the bad credits

**Encryptions** · 09-08-2021, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Fastfire

Still a attempt to manipulate the price and make profit the point of monopoly is to “control” manipulate the price

No. Monopoly is to control the price yea but not fake offers. You set your own price, I can buy a frank set and list my sell price for 2bil yea people will hate for it but it would be my price my item, people choose to buy or not. About the only thing people can say is that my item would be over priced and make me want to lower my price by informing me nicely. Though in this game even if you don't know the items price and you sell it over priced they harass you for it and if you sell it underpriced you are called an idiot.

Manipulation is to have an item worth 10m and say your alt offered 10mil on it making the potential buyer offer 11m on it.

**YeaSheGamez** · 09-08-2021, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Encryptions

A person who owns multiple of 1 item does not mean they should be shamed upon for hoarding the item nor shall they be forced to sell it. I am 100% sure every one in this thread has held more than 1 of a specific item before so they can wait for the price to go up and sell it.

True but theres a difference in just hoarding vs price manipulation

Hoarding things such as keys/awakes/energy etc and waiting for the price to go up is ok because these items are in store every other week/event. Therefore prices will always fluctuate up and down as they should no matter how much one hoards.

But price manipulation is when people hoard hundreds of an item that is LIMITED (such as auras etc) and wait months for said item to establish its new "rare" title then permanently raise said items price.

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**Encryptions** · 09-08-2021, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by YeaSheGamez

But price manipulation is when people hoard hundreds of an item that is LIMITED (such as auras etc) and wait months for said item to establish its new "rare" title then permanently raise said items price.

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Thats "monopoly".

Manipulation is owning any amount of 1 item but going around selling it with a fake offer by using your alt account or friend to act as if it/they was to offer that on the item. Manipulation can not rise the real value of an item but only the buyer's offer.
Both of these happen in irl business and trades all the time. Monopoly is more of a business partnership. Gas prices.

**YeaSheGamez** · 09-08-2021, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Encryptions

Thats "monopoly".

Manipulation is owning any amount of 1 item but going around selling it with a fake offer by using your alt account or friend to act as if it/they was to offer that on the item. Manipulation can not rise the real value of an item but only the buyer's offer.

Call it what you will if that makes you feel better.
Im not bashing hoarders i just dont agree with some peoples intent behind it.

Besides theres not many that can actually afford enough to really manipulate anything worth while. Only the 1% and we all know who they are.

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**YeaSheGamez** · 09-08-2021, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Encryptions

Thats "monopoly".

Manipulation is owning any amount of 1 item but going around selling it with a fake offer by using your alt account or friend to act as if it/they was to offer that on the item. Manipulation can not rise the real value of an item but only the buyer's offer.
Both of these happen in irl business and trades all the time. Monopoly is more of a business partnership. Gas prices.

Ok, well since we're doing this.

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