Humania is coming! - Current Level Cap goes away and New Level Cap of 71

[Whirlzap]

I'm completely aware of what is going on. Instead of adding a vanity pet to make a complete set they are recycling the helmet, thus rendering the COP useless, and leaving a bunch of babies without their bottle.

Sigh.

A very undetailed and shallow comment is what I expect from you. All that makes this a complete expectation of the average post on this thread from you is a few curse words.
It doesn't make the COP useless. It takes away its value.
I'm not completely against them releasing a vanity helm. I'm just against the fact that this vanity could possibly replace the COP's idea of rareness and value, thus minimizing the effect of what the 56 Grinding Cap was like for a few older members of the community.
We had to go through times without 4x combo, which about 80% of the current endgame community has grown up in PL around and with their first character, seen people pop them all the time.

[Whirlzap]

Yeah, Elyson seems to be part of what my point states.
I'm not against another vanity elite helm to be released. My thread even said, "new elite vanity helm to REPLACE COP."
I hope you understand peoples' COMPLETE points before slamming yourself head-on full speed into a dispute.

[Elyseon]

rendering the COP useless, and leaving a bunch of babies without their bottle.

And yeh btw the whole reason I live is for my CoP

[Drizzid]

You should also know that we both sport the same amount of ingame experience.
But why you are losing this affair with me is your lack of forum knowledge.
I have been on the forums far longer than you have and we can both agree on this.
I understand how these player connections and the general player opinions work; however, you do not.
I also understand that this forums is also for teenagers as well, not for adults who put the random A-word and other rather vulgar ways of expressing your opinion, which you seem so against, yet you do so much yourself.

I appologize for my use of the A-word, I sometimes forget im dealing with children here.

I really don't care how long you've been on the forums. Great, your e-confidence is at an all-time high I believe a congratulations are in order, but that has little to do with anything. I must have missed the thread where you were appointed the PL forum psycologist. I don't think you're in any position to claim you understand the general players opinion. Get over yourself. This forum is for those who play pocket legends, I didn't see an age limit.

I'm sorry guys I must be confused, What 'value' does it have? You can't trade it or sell it, you cant even stash it - it's nothing but pixel dust that, when combined with other pixel dust, grants the holder of the pixels an extra few attributes.

This game never has, and never will, cater to you and you shouldn't feel special because you started playing the game earlier than others. You've probably already got a seperate vanity for that.

I honestly can't believe how big of a deal you're making this out to be. I don't even know why you're so upset you can still wear your COP and show everyone how old school and 1337 you are.

And don't give me the old rant of how long it took you without elixers because I don't care. That was your choice then, it shouldn't affect STS' decision now.

[Whirlzap]

I appologize for my use of the A-word, I sometimes forget im dealing with children here.

I really don't care how long you've been on the forums. Great, your e-confidence is at an all-time high I believe a congratulations are in order, but that has little to do with anything. I must have missed the thread where you were appointed the PL forum psycologist. I don't think you're in any position to claim you understand the general players opinion. Get over yourself. This forum is for those who play pocket legends, I didn't see an age limit.

I'm sorry guys I must be confused, What 'value' does it have? You can't trade it or sell it, you cant even stash it - it's nothing but pixel dust that, when combined with other pixel dust, grants the holder of the pixels an extra few attributes.

This game never has, and never will, cater to you and you shouldn't feel special because you started playing the game earlier than others. You've probably already got a seperate vanity for that.

I honestly can't believe how big of a deal you're making this out to be. I don't even know why you're so upset you can still wear your COP and show everyone how old school and 1337 you are.

And don't give me the old rant of how long it took you without elixers because I don't care. That was your choice then, it shouldn't affect STS' decision now.

On contrary to your post about me having some e-confidence.
I don't believe you have much to draw on experience about general players' opinions either; you are new to the forums.
It also does not matter if I am a some PL psychologist. I have seen more than you.

I will also say that the Developers have also directly acknowledged the advantages of such "loyalty" items, such as the Founder's helm and Elite Vanity Sets. They have already accepted that these advantages are there in PvP tournaments, but have never admitted in an outright way that these items are advantages in any way.
Thus, from this, I believe Developers are agreeing to the fact that having advantages simply because you played longer is accepted and not something wrong at all.

You state that you do not see the "value" of a COP.
You have one yourself.
You must learn to respect the opinions of others who have COP.
I am, in turn, respecting the opinions of non-COP users by grunting a yes for them to release another elite helm.

And I also want to know why you are making such a big argument on your side.
You're not really losing anything, it seems.
All you're trying to do right NOW, is simply argue for the fact that we are making a fuss out of this COP, which you see no value in, but the people who are arguing DO see some value. And the reason behind all this is because you fail to respect other peoples' values.

[Sciazaratek]

Compare the count of people without a CoP crown with the count of veterans, who win ?
The non-veterans.
So it's great for them (and me) to get finally a chance to catch up .
Thanks STS.

[The Flash]

Dam that sucks that its a helm. Oh well atleast I dont need to cap my mage and bear anymore. Saved me 1500+ plat. If the set is same no need to get again. I do however collect one of each vanity so I guess I will cap my main guy but have 3 months to do so. Regular leveling should be fine then. Dont know why you dont make a ring, wep,pet, and even a title with the new acomplishment.

Everyone would get new stuff if it was new vanity so everyone would try to get them with all 3 toons(win,win), if you remake old player wont try to get (lose,win). Who cares if you cant see them, I cant even show my bird and mage shield since they have 2handed weps. Ohh well your lose. You had nothing to lose from making a new one.

[IshoootU]

I appologize for my use of the A-word, I sometimes forget im dealing with children here.

I really don't care how long you've been on the forums. Great, your e-confidence is at an all-time high I believe a congratulations are in order, but that has little to do with anything. I must have missed the thread where you were appointed the PL forum psycologist. I don't think you're in any position to claim you understand the general players opinion. Get over yourself. This forum is for those who play pocket legends, I didn't see an age limit.

I'm sorry guys I must be confused, What 'value' does it have? You can't trade it or sell it, you cant even stash it - it's nothing but pixel dust that, when combined with other pixel dust, grants the holder of the pixels an extra few attributes.

This game never has, and never will, cater to you and you shouldn't feel special because you started playing the game earlier than others. You've probably already got a seperate vanity for that.

I honestly can't believe how big of a deal you're making this out to be. I don't even know why you're so upset you can still wear your COP and show everyone how old school and 1337 you are.

And don't give me the old rant of how long it took you without elixers because I don't care. That was your choice then, it shouldn't affect STS' decision now.

I agree with Driz here. Old players had their elite vanity helm, great, they can keep it. but why do they want to stop the new ones from having theirs now? New players want elite vanity helm too you know!

[Blind]

Devs pls tell us if the set bonus is the same, i really don't wanna go for 71 if it so.

[Blind]

if it is not the same and IS better, then it will suck for sure, hopefully it's either bit worse or same as cop set. Otherwise yeah cop is gonna be just that, a vanity. Oh well...

not like 5 less armor is gonna kill me. Still gonna wear cop.

sorry for accidental double post.

[IshoootU]

if it is not the same and IS better, then it will suck for sure, hopefully it's either bit worse or same as cop set. Otherwise yeah cop is gonna be just that, a vanity. Oh well...

not like 5 less armor is gonna kill me. Still gonna wear cop.

sorry for accidental double post.

asking for it to be same is fair. asking it to be worse is just selfish.

[Whirlzap]

It's why I laugh at the new players wanting COP so bad.
You missed out on it.
You yourself should feel bad for thinking you deserve it.
It's like a level 10 saying they should deserve to get Founder's Helm again.

You think that's fair to all the other Founders?

[IshoootU]

It's why I laugh at the new players wanting COP so bad.
You missed out on it.
You yourself should feel bad for thinking you deserve it.
It's like a level 10 saying they should deserve to get Founder's Helm again.

You think that's fair to all the other Founders?

Im not sure who you are referring to. but why would you say people "think they deserve COP" and that they should feel bad about it? and im not sure whats the founders helm got to do with this thread. unless you are telepathic you should really stop assuming what ppl think. it just says a lot about you.

[Windwaiker]

A founders helm isn't the same as a helm of persistence.
Founders is rewarded for joining early and being active.
Crown of Persistance was a reward for hard work. Now there's another opportunity to get a vanity helm, and there are people without plat elixirs who still will manage to earn that max level. They work hard, they get the helm. Just because a few elixir junkies can reach max level in a few days doesn't mean that other people don't deserve the helm.

[Walkhardd]

A founders helm isn't a helm of persistence.
Founders is rewarded for joining early and being active.
Crown of Persistance was a reward for hard work. Now there's another opportunity to get a vanity helm, and there are people without plat elixirs who still will manage to earn that max level. They worked hard, they get the helm. Just because a few elixir junkies can reach max level in a few days doesn't mean that other people don't deserve the helm.

So I don't deserve it because ill get it in a few days? :'(

ps. The "elixer junkies" are what makes this, and every other sts game go. So, when you see a player with a fancy new vanity a couple days after the new cap, thank him that you get to play arcane legends soon.

[Windwaiker]

So I don't deserve it because ill get it in a few days? :'(

I never said that, please read my post more carefully.
How about this wording: Just because a few elixir junkies can reach max level in a few days doesn't mean that no one deserves the helm.
An arguement that some people make is that getting elite vanities is soooooo easy with elixirs, and at lvl 56, people had to work hard for their COP. Apparently, new players don't deserve the chance to get the helm, simply because of the potential of using elixirs. Even players who "work" to get at least 100k xp? Nope, they don't deserve the new vanity because they could of used elixies!!

[Walkhardd]

Haha..i got ya. The word "deserve" is kinda dumb in all cases. you either have something or you don't.

[Drizzid]

On contrary to your post about me having some e-confidence.
I don't believe you have much to draw on experience about general players' opinions either; you are new to the forums.
It also does not matter if I am a some PL psychologist. I have seen more than you.

I will also say that the Developers have also directly acknowledged the advantages of such "loyalty" items, such as the Founder's helm and Elite Vanity Sets. They have already accepted that these advantages are there in PvP tournaments, but have never admitted in an outright way that these items are advantages in any way.
Thus, from this, I believe Developers are agreeing to the fact that having advantages simply because you played longer is accepted and not something wrong at all.

You state that you do not see the "value" of a COP.
You have one yourself.
You must learn to respect the opinions of others who have COP.
I am, in turn, respecting the opinions of non-COP users by grunting a yes for them to release another elite helm.

And I also want to know why you are making such a big argument on your side.
You're not really losing anything, it seems.
All you're trying to do right NOW, is simply argue for the fact that we are making a fuss out of this COP, which you see no value in, but the people who are arguing DO see some value. And the reason behind all this is because you fail to respect other peoples' values.

I'm simply pointing out that the fuss people are having over the next vanity being a helmet is childish. People should just accept what's coming to them and be thankful there is new content at all, not female dog and moan until the cows come home. Ya I said it.

It had gotten to a point where the forums were cluttered with CoP threads and I decided to speak up. I'm done now though - carry on.

[Blind]

Funny guys haha. First i read Drizz's smart post and think, hmm this guy is right, then i read Whirlz's post and think hmm how well said, maybe he is right? Lol, maybw it's cause of my English that i get these impressions on forums all the time.

[Elf-Orc-Naga]

Hey guys,

We know that people worked hard for their Crown of Persistence back in the day. However, nothing lasts for ever. Mountains wear down, Seas dry up, Cities rise and fall and so too the CoP has had its day. As Xionskull said above, if someone pulls out a CoP and puts it on, anyone who is in the know will recognize them as old school. The plan with the elite level cap vanities is to replace them in order, so after Humania expect to see a new vanity shield that will replace the Nuri's shield, etc.

Thanks in advance for your understanding.

Uhmm is that too early? There are still spaces for vanity rooms.. why not use VANITY PET? VANITY WEAPON? hmm just my thought