Possibility for replacement of COP?

**Otukura** · 06-09-2012, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by Apollo

The L66 armor is pretty eye appealing too, so those who grinded could use it to boast, "Hey, I made it to at least one of the old elite caps!".

Keep telling yourself that.

**JaytB** · 06-09-2012, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by Buddyf97

I don't know why everyone is making a big deal over this! The crown of persistence isn't loosing any value! It is still the very first elite vanity, still an old school item. Sport you COP! Show the newer players that u did the original grind! As of now, COP owners are becoming greedy IMO. Like you didn't see this coming? It is not "replacing" the COP, just providing another option.
-Buddyf

What post in this thread sounds greedy in your opinion? It might be just me, but I can't find it.

**Appleisaac** · 06-09-2012, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by JaytB

What post in this thread sounds greedy in your opinion? It might be just me, but I can't find it.

I think he was referring to Whirl's thread. This thread is pretty civil.

**Zeus** · 06-09-2012, 12:26 PM

Just going to say this, will you founders be okay with it if a similar vanity helm was released with the exact same stats to everybody?

Last time I checked y'all made a big deal about it.

**Floating** · 06-09-2012, 12:47 PM

If it was for lvl 71 and it gave the stats only as a part of the whole vanity set then no. Otherwise for lower lvl I would not be happy about it

**Zeus** · 06-09-2012, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Floating

If it was for lvl 71 and it gave the stats only as a part of the whole vanity set then no. Otherwise for lower lvl I would not be happy about it

There we go, you guys want to have your cake and eat it too. It's largely hypocritical.

**RedRyder** · 06-09-2012, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Apollo

Just going to say this, will you founders be okay with it if a similar vanity helm was released with the exact same stats to everybody?

Last time I checked y'all made a big deal about it.

I wouldn't care

I'm over the whole thing now lol

**Zeus** · 06-09-2012, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by RedRyder

I wouldn't care

I'm over the whole thing now lol

At the time you did.

**Elixirgod** · 06-09-2012, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Apollo

At the time you did.

hah

**Elyseon** · 06-09-2012, 03:13 PM

It's not a new CoP, it's a whole new helm, not even confirmed to make bonus with 61 and 66 items

**Kaytar** · 06-09-2012, 03:28 PM

I think the new COP will start a new vanity set. I don't know though, we will see when humania gets here

**Noodleleg** · 06-10-2012, 05:39 PM

Hmm so far so friendly... I'm in the mood to flame though =p

**Charmstrange** · 06-10-2012, 08:18 PM

Hello all

Here is what I appreciate about this:
During the days of the sewer cap I played for countless hours on locked characters with a great group of friends for scaled farming of L51 items. We had so much fun, all the time. Locking our characters at 51/52 required great gear (like 4-6 sets of legendary gear for one dual spec character), dual spec cleverness, stat boosting (before the gear stat requirements were changed), refined team play dynamics, cooperation and commitment to accomplish what we did. It was an awesome time, and I think many would agree that farming the sewers with a 52-or-lower team took skillful play to do right.

As for the CoP, it wasn't an "Elite Vanity", it was a regular item that would actually break the set bonus of end-game sets. Many of us played extensively in what I consider to be the elite pve environment of scaled farming, as reaching the cap didn't seem as rewarding as what we were doing in-game every day. Consequently, we didn't put in the same amount of time into our end-game characters and never got the CoP.

For some, that may not make me "leet" enough, or "old school" enough for the CoP, and that's ok with me. When the CoP was turned into an elite vanity, I was a bit disappointed that I never capped a 56 character, but I would never trade it for all the fun we had!

So, now I appreciate the opportunity to work for the vanity set bonus, as well as the effort of STS to make the stat bonuses and cool vanities available for newer players. I never agreed that just because I started earlier than another player then I should always have an advantage that they can never attain. I'm not sure why people get so angry about this topic (I don't pvp, so maybe that's where the bonuses make more of a difference?), but I think it should rather be motivating that players can't just rest on their previously-acquired laurels to stay on top. After all, the full Enchanted set that I crafted myself and the 3 full Cyber sets in my stash don't help me much in Mt Fang! But at least I almost have enough snowballs to kill Count Vlod solo, and no one can ever take that away from me lolzzzzzzzzzz

Props to the players that did cap to 56. Those days were different; L56 players were rare compared to the hoards of L66 characters today, and it always felt special when my L56 friends dropped in for a few runs.

Humania is going to be tons of fun, I'm looking forward to playing with old friends and making new ones when the new campaign comes out.