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    I hate people who are two faced,remember it well(Free-to-play and pay-to-play)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaKun:679165
    I hate people who are two faced,remember it well(Free-to-play and pay-to-play)
    Can you please explain what you are saying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
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    As usual the only leaderboard that will matter is pvp straight kills just like PL

    I hope you don't honestly believe kills aren't farmed in pvp. This is something that goes on daily. Another "sad but true" aspect of all games.
    Yeh of course I know that but the majority of those are in pvp kdr area

    That's just the only section I even care about at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyseon:679188
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    As usual the only leaderboard that will matter is pvp straight kills just like PL

    I hope you don't honestly believe kills aren't farmed in pvp. This is something that goes on daily. Another "sad but true" aspect of all games.
    Yeh of course I know that but the majority of those are in pvp kdr area

    That's just the only section I even care about at all
    In SL, guilds was a super major one. Probably still is a major one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cahaun:679200
    In SL, guilds was a super major one. Probably still is a major one.
    It was, at this moment i don't think the other endgame guilds care as much. Heck i know that one is just on LB bc it's members just want the vanity and not bc they want to be at number 1.


    Lets wait for the next update, and we will see how important it is.
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    When the leaderboards were wiped in the first post-beta update, I hoped that there wouldn't be such corruption on the LBs, coupled with the fact that Disable XP would also no longer grant kills. Money does talk.

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    True @ the part where you're like who the heck is that. Lol. I just noticed someone passed Bubu's K/D Ratio xD

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    Idk wats wrong,its their money,its their decision.ik art ur angry coz of loosing ur spot in near future but plat players r also paying from their hardwork( real money=> more harwork) to get to that spot so its pretty fair imo.
    + Those players even asks new players to power lvl em 8-18
    So its pretty cool
    Ps=> am personally being pwer lvled 4 times by those kind players

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    Ha ha I knew this would be a fun thread.
    Saiyen, I'm not mad I am losing my spot, I am mad that these all access elixirs give people with the "money to spend" chances others will never have.
    It is NOT fair, and I don't care what you have to say about it, it is not fair plain and simple.

    P.s. I cap more people on Inner Core runs faster than they could ever power level you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiyen View Post
    Idk wats wrong,its their money,its their decision.ik art ur angry coz of loosing ur spot in near future but plat players r also paying from their hardwork( real money=> more harwork) to get to that spot so its pretty fair imo.
    + Those players even asks new players to power lvl em 8-18
    So its pretty cool
    Ps=> am personally being pwer lvled 4 times by those kind players

    -Raghav
    You have your order of 'work' wrong.

    Its "hard work" leads to 'real money' leads to "less work" in game.
    I have 4 different sources of income, 2 of which I hardly do anything I'd consider "work." The 'working hard for your money' idea is a dead saying these days really.

    However, the leaderboards are SUPPOSED to represent people who put in hard work...not less work. Money and games with leaderboards shouldn't relate this much. It's one thing to buy the game, but when those using real money begin to dominate the leaderboards over people who put in "hard work" IN GAME, it's a problem.

    The point is real life HARD WORK and in game HARD WORK should not be related for things involving rankings. If you work hard for your money and buy a expensive vanity, then kudos to you. You earned it. But 'earning' a spot on the leaderboards by buying your way there isn't in the spirit of the game. Then again, neither are leaderboards...but the competitive atmosphere is a whole different game in itself.

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    At the end of the day,money dominates everything....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flowman View Post
    You have your order of 'work' wrong.

    Its "hard work" leads to 'real money' leads to "less work" in game.
    I have 4 different sources of income, 2 of which I hardly do anything I'd consider "work." The 'working hard for your money' idea is a dead saying these days really.

    However, the leaderboards are SUPPOSED to represent people who put in hard work...not less work. Money and games with leaderboards shouldn't relate this much. It's one thing to buy the game, but when those using real money begin to dominate the leaderboards over people who put in "hard work" IN GAME, it's a problem.

    The point is real life HARD WORK and in game HARD WORK should not be related for things involving rankings. If you work hard for your money and buy a expensive vanity, then kudos to you. You earned it. But 'earning' a spot on the leaderboards by buying your way there isn't in the spirit of the game. Then again, neither are leaderboards...but the competitive atmosphere is a whole different game in itself.
    Amen. I wish I could thank myself for this post lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ark View Post
    I seriously don't want to start a fight here but I want to correct something.. First of all, there is no RIGHT or WRONG way. It's by choice, if they chose to buy platinum to get on LB then so be it. AND plus, if STS allows us to have "all access" so why not use it as an advantage?

    PS: I really don't want to start anything, I jus want to point it out.
    Quote Originally Posted by ArtStar View Post
    We are going to have fun with the thread I just wrote up for tomorrow morning then :]
    *looks at AoB members disagreeing*
    This is going to be awesome, I'll leave whatever I have to say to this dumb logic for tomorrow.
    But I'll say this, the elixirs weren't made to be "taken advantage of," they were made for lower leveled players to gain extra experience points by playing a map they don't meet the level requirement for.

    Just wanted to point that out... xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flowman View Post
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    Thanks homie :P lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wontwang View Post
    True @ the part where you're like who the heck is that. Lol. I just noticed someone passed Bubu's K/D Ratio xD
    that person earned it.


    and i dont think its a big deal everyone enjoys the game in there own way let them spend hundreds of dollars i personally dont buy enhancers and enjoy the game but those who do big deal
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    Microtransactions: the worst things to happen to video games since Gamestop and EA.
    Id rather buy Star Legends and pay for each expansion than be milked ad naseum with carrot on a stick style advancements.
    Saw this coming though. Soon as Gamestop cancer'd over ever single video game retailer and dominated with their used market that videogame developers see not a single cent of...
    you had to know they would seek income elsewhere. That, coupled with the advent of a mobile market that is dominated with single serving short game experiences, you knew a new income model was on the horizon.

    "Slowly charge more and more and see what you can get away with" is the name of the game in the vg industry nowadays.

    It's the future. Instead of buying a 20-60 dollar game, its buy a free-10 dollar game and be tempted with an infinum of treats to "enhance the gaming experience"

    Dun care for it. Prolly never will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physiologic View Post
    When the leaderboards were wiped in the first post-beta update, I hoped that there wouldn't be such corruption on the LBs, coupled with the fact that Disable XP would also no longer grant kills. Money does talk.
    gives me an idea, this might be a solution.

    Even if the devs wont take it away. as long as NO KILLs COUNTED for using the cheap elixer.



    umm, there might will be many "ihavenokills" on base if this is implemented lol
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    Omg this thread needs to go on PL also! They knocked down 2 spots off the leaderboard the BEST PL player of all time (Queenofcakes)
    She was a level52 mage that got 230k kills with no deaths THE RIGHT WAY. That is beyond impressive to me.

    My suggestion is, on both SL & PL, they should make an individual leaderboard for end gamekills & kills in general...
    Or kills with those uncool enhancers & Kills made on on maps or your level
    Nice rant Artstar

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    *walk in* WHOA! there's a leaderboard ?

    well anyways .... I've seen a Lv 1 in Shipyard b4 ......

    k back to topic, i think they can keep the elixir..... if they rise the xp per kill in the higher level, because the monster are harder to kill, plus the exp required is a lot higher too.... and if they want to go kill those "easier monsters" they would be getting less xp then killing those "level appropriate" monsters.............. im off topic again arn't I?..... "

    well about the kill, they should make the kill same as the xp, unable to increase it unless its against the "level appropriate" monsters, and that is unaffected by the elixir, so that they can still gain exp, but not gain kill.

    ps i didnt use elixir to cap either... well besides that one that's buy-able with the credits..... and that i cap during the double xp weekend....... but that's another story .....
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