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    Omg this thread needs to go on PL also! They knocked down 2 spots off the leaderboard the BEST PL player of all time (Queenofcakes)
    She was a level52 mage that got 230k kills with no deaths THE RIGHT WAY. That is beyond impressive to me.

    My suggestion is, on both SL & PL, they should make an individual leaderboard for end gamekills & kills in general...
    Or kills with those uncool enhancers & Kills made on on maps or your level
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urqui View Post
    Omg this thread needs to go on PL also! They knocked down 2 spots off the leaderboard the BEST PL player of all time (Queenofcakes)
    She was a level52 mage that got 230k kills with no deaths THE RIGHT WAY. That is beyond impressive to me.

    My suggestion is, on both SL & PL, they should make an individual leaderboard for end gamekills & kills in general...
    Or kills with those uncool enhancers & Kills made on on maps or your level
    Nice rant Artstar
    That's really cool, I don't understand why some people can't see the awesomeness of the natural gameplay, and how enhancers just poison the system. I mean sure the developers allow us to use these elixirs and sure if funds new content, but it still wasn't how the game was meant to be played. IF ANYTHING, the elixirs were just meant to give a little boost to get you where you need to be, or to help you gain more income. I understand that it is a game and if that's how some people wanna play that's their choice and that's fine. Towards the people who think I am flaming the K/D ratio players, Idk if you read the first post, but it clearly states that I'm not flaming them. I said in the first couple sentences idk if you read it or not but I am ranting about the issue I have with these "all access" elixers lol.
    Thanks, I still enjoy playing v5 runs, as old as they are now lol, after six months of no content.

    Edit: hokay now that I got the minute, sorry that post was kinda short.
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    *walk in* WHOA! there's a leaderboard ?

    well anyways .... I've seen a Lv 1 in Shipyard b4 ......

    k back to topic, i think they can keep the elixir..... if they rise the xp per kill in the higher level, because the monster are harder to kill, plus the exp required is a lot higher too.... and if they want to go kill those "easier monsters" they would be getting less xp then killing those "level appropriate" monsters.............. im off topic again arn't I?..... "

    well about the kill, they should make the kill same as the xp, unable to increase it unless its against the "level appropriate" monsters, and that is unaffected by the elixir, so that they can still gain exp, but not gain kill.

    ps i didnt use elixir to cap either... well besides that one that's buy-able with the credits..... and that i cap during the double xp weekend....... but that's another story .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by eugene9707 View Post

    well anyways .... I've seen a Lv 1 in Shipyard b4 ......

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    i think that was me :/ when i was testing it out


    to be honest i never liked them for leveling and never really though of using them for kills.... just seems so cheap to me i mean its really hard not to die in voleria i mean like your teammates pretty much decide your fate (bad teammates step on mines killing you)
    and then theres people racking up 6 times as many kills playing in an easier level just cause they purchased an elixer worth i think its 5 plat just seems so wrong.
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    I find it funny how they waste their time just to get 0 deaths ( and money ). Especially not worth the while if it gets you no where ( in life ). Just saying. Don't hate. My opinion. Now yours. was that offensive?

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    id say we stop the dungeon access enhancer and put something like this:
    every monster killed gives a particular exp like dynasty1xp, red 2xp and each time you unlock a new map, the value of exp decreases so at l40 it would be like dynasty 0.1 exp and so on.
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    or at least cheaper enhacner like 2x 30 min shud b 2 plat, 4x 30 min shud b 10 plat
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    My next toon will be named "Lance Platstrong". And my new guild will be "Performance Enhancing Thugs".

    Seriously, i think that enhancers should be limited to personal improvement and not contribute to leader board status. I don't know how I would go about this from a developer standpoint, but if i took like 5 mins of serious thought i'm sure i could throw out a half-a-dozen decent ideas. STS is smart, perhaps they could brainstorm a way to keep the leader board from getting reduced to irrelevancy.

    I mean c'mon. If you can just buy the top-spot in the leader board like this thread points out, why not just put it in the auction house???
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    I look at it as another facet of game play. I have three level 41 toons that ground their way up without the xp anywhere enhancer. I've helped many players capped as I'm sure you have Art:-)

    But after a while of waiting for updates you think... what else can I do? Hey! Let's take a run at the leader board!

    Unfortunately, there is an enhancer that allows for quick and easy kills. But part of the challenge was going through every level, timing skills, timing kills, finding the fastest gains:-)

    Someone took #1 pve k/d in three days (so I heard). The new challenge has nothing personal against you or any other player. I love this game just as much as you, and try not to let things get to me... it is a game:-) I want to just play and have fun. And when I.m kill farming, and someones alt joins me and keeps me company, well if I can help them level too, then I hope its made them happier:-) Anyway when this power player comes back, will I have done enough to keep my spot? I hope so! :-) And to make sure I'm going to try to place as much distance between me and them as I can!

    I know some may look at it as cheap or cheating (trust me, it isn't cheap!), buts its an option the devs put in. A part of game play that presents a challenge that I want to pursue.

    I think you are a great player as are most of the players on the leader boards and the players that have been with us since beta. But unless or until the devs take this option out, its a new part to the game play that gives me a challenge.

    I do remember when I was younger how frustrated I would get in other games that some players could basically "buy" their way into something, and I feel your pain. But I can afford it now, so all those guys that usta piss me off... well now they gotta deal with me! :-)

    As many have replied, you are #1 in many hearts. You've helped many a player and they will always remember you for that! Don't get too tied up in leader boards. I doubt there is a leader board in any game where someone hasn't used the game or a friend or an alt account to get their killer rating. The only truly fair way to do it, would be to have a NEVER EVER EVER used an enhancer or plat gear LB. That would be the only way to remove any financial advantage. Actually.... DO IT devs! That would truly be the ultimate challenge! Gonna go get name neverusedplat just in case:-)

    Hope to see you around Art:-) I was helping someone cap today with Pocketlegend in V5. But now, its time to farm kills.

    EDIT: Wewt!! Neverusedplat was available!! New non plat LB needed!!
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    This power player isnt coming back, he hates SL, and he didnt do it in three days, he did it in less than two weeks. He did it to prove a point and because he was bored with PL, not to compete. He did it to get the top kd spot and leave basically.
    I understand where you are coming from.. Can you people not read though? I said I am ranting about an issue I have with the ELIXIRS not the players. I could care less what you tell yourself to make yourself feel better about playing, and I have no respect for how you play our game. I am not caught up in the lbs guys, I am not worried about my score! HONEST. Lol I dont wanna be the leader forever, my kills are already emberassing enough as it is. I am speaking up for the many who YOU dicourage with your pointless spending. Trying to voice my opinion to get rid of these elixirs, in a Star Legends community you care nothing for. YOU are the one caught up in the leaderboard and obviously have your priorities messed up by spending all that money to buy your way to the top.

    Play fair is all I ask.. Lets settle this on the maps we are suppose to, like WE ARE SUPPOSE TO.


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    I mean c'mon. If you can just buy the top-spot in the leader board like this thread points out, why not just put it in the auction house???
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    I was thinking that the Xp Anywheres SHOULD stay in the game... Just not GET KILLS everywhere... Just my thoughts on that.
    Also, I hate when you see a capped player with 2-4k Kills... GRRR.
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    Possibly Make Xp Elixirs cheaper! When you can kill 4-5 Ppl in the time it takes to kill one on a higher lvl... Well Xp anywhere wins that battle to. So make a cheaper/more useful low plat/gold elixir...
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    Hey Crummypaladin(aka lonelykdop)
    When you pass Yurimaru, why don't you tell us how much real money you spent getting there.
    Let's see how many people respect you for that, and we'll see how "cool" you are then.
    So when you go as far as to pass me up... Lol we can just do the math from there.
    Let's see how worth it, it is then :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtStar View Post
    Hey Crummypaladin(aka lonelykdop)
    When you pass Yurimaru, why don't you tell us how much real money you spent getting there.
    Let's see how many people respect you for that, and we'll see how "cool" you are then.
    So when you go as far as to pass me up... Lol we can just do the math from there.
    Let's see how worth it, it is then :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by akfury View Post
    no point to post like that art
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    I think this thread has served it's purpose. Not seeing much else coming from this besides a Pwniebombing.
    We all agree there should be leaderboards for 'untainted' accounts, but I doubt that will ever happen, as annoying as that may be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akfury View Post
    no point to post like that art
    I'm just saying, lol, because I dont get it.
    I want these elixirs altered, I want these players to quit abusing them, and to just play fair.
    This may be out of line, but I am not going down without making these guys look dumb first either.


    @Flow: This thread is far from serving its purpose. I don't see any Pwniebombing, this thread has nothing to do with Pwnies or any guild for that matter. I am trying to get this thread noticed by the developers, and as you can see it hasn't been.
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    Pwniebombing referring to how if it keeps going in the direction of back and forth arguments, it's going to become a meme fest.

    I'm sure the devs/mods have seen it, it's probably the only good thread left in SL general. I would guess they're waiting for someone to make a bad flame so they can lock the thread to avoid replying to the topic at hand because it's a controversial subject.

    Unfortunately, fair isn't always profitable, and it sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flowman View Post
    Pwniebombing referring to how if it keeps going in the direction of back and forth arguments, it's going to become a meme fest.

    I'm sure the devs/mods have seen it, it's probably the only good thread left in SL general. I would guess they're waiting for someone to make a bad flame so they can lock the thread to avoid replying to the topic at hand because it's a controversial subject.

    Unfortunately, fair isn't always profitable, and it sucks.
    Lolol yeah us Pwnies are pros at locking threads, we close so many threads that we close our own threads. IMHO they should have a locking threads leaderboard, naimjustkidding x) but in all seriousness I didn't expect to get far here, just felt like putting my input on the situation.

    Yes, Voleria sucks after this long, we are all dying of boredom with nothing to do with no signs of an update, and it sucks for pretty much everybody. So whyy does it have to be this way, even if you got the money to spend and it's whatever, I don't see how people can't see how wrong it is. When I had plat in the Shipyard I could do a good 15k kills in a days time no problem, for example, and if I didn't have plat do you know how much kills I could get in a days time? 15K! Lol. Anyone had the chance to go nuts and rack up kills at the same level. So with Voleria VS Cycorp, it's pretty unfair indeed.

    Look I know it is a game, and at the end of the day this doesnt mean anything to any of us. There obviously isn't a reason to get heated in my posts and I'm sorry if I offend anyone.
    This is just something I feel very strongly about, it's not right, and it isn't okay to me. I can't say it doesn't sting to see people moving up on the leaderboards in leaps and bounds and I can't do anything to defend my score that I put so much time into. It kills me to see such shameless behavior. Six months and no update sucks for everyone, and there is no reason anyone should be able to "take advantage" like this. Fixed leaderboards may not be a huge issue to everyone, but it is a huge issue to me. It makes me sick.
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