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    Thumbs down Pink drop rate.

    This is the third or fourth post for this issue in the latest campaign but it has yet to be addressed by the developers.
    My guild has over 1500 members and I think we might have won less then 20 pinks over the weekend and there needs to be an increase.
    What is Spacetime studios going to do to appease the masses so the people that have pinks won't complain that they think the drop rate is fine so they can make money and people such as myself don't have to spend eight million dollars on something.
    It's really frustrating and it is really ruining my gaming experience!

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    I got a pink today while not on a thrasher (:
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    Default Pink drop rate.

    You told me Notyo! hahaha, it don't worry about the drop rate, makes it more of a challenge right?!
     
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    I agree that drop rates suck...

    But... they do drop



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    I wish they had another drop rate like in Alien Oasis maps and Skeller Krunch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swimmingstar View Post
    I wish they had another drop rate like in Alien Oasis maps and Skeller Krunch!
    Then all pinks would be worth less ),:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notyocookiez View Post
    Then all pinks would be worth less ),:
    To be honest, gear is priced too high. I have never understood why individuals feel the need to hoard all that gold and deprive otbers of the joy of the game. It use to not bother me as much, but after quitting, I gave all my stuff away and had to start from scratch when I came back. I have a new appreciation for new players who have a hard time earning gold. A lot of veterans hve forgotten how much of a struggle it was when they began. I know I did.

    As long as the drop rates remain this low, the rich will only get richer. Something should be done, but sadly, it won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    To be honest, gear is priced too high. I have never understood why individuals feel the need to hoard all that gold and deprive otbers of the joy of the game. It use to not bother me as much, but after quitting, I gave all my stuff away and had to start from scratch when I came back. I have a new appreciation for new players who have a hard time earning gold. A lot of veterans hve forgotten how much of a struggle it was when they began. I know I did.

    As long as the drop rates remain this low, the rich will only get richer. Something should be done, but sadly, it won't.
    I wonder how expensive they will become if they can be crafted later on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    To be honest, gear is priced too high. I have never understood why individuals feel the need to hoard all that gold and deprive otbers of the joy of the game. It use to not bother me as much, but after quitting, I gave all my stuff away and had to start from scratch when I came back. I have a new appreciation for new players who have a hard time earning gold. A lot of veterans hve forgotten how much of a struggle it was when they began. I know I did.

    As long as the drop rates remain this low, the rich will only get richer. Something should be done, but sadly, it won't.
    I think it's the opposite, because the rich people are the ones that can afford this gear right now. Therefore, they're spending money and other people are making it. I'm actually a good example of that. I think the most gold I've ever had at one time was maybe 200-300k, and even that took a lot of work. I've was just never lucky on drops for the most part. Finally, this past week I've gotten two pink drops and sold them for millions. Rare items can help to even the playing field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    To be honest, gear is priced too high. I have never understood why individuals feel the need to hoard all that gold and deprive otbers of the joy of the game. It use to not bother me as much, but after quitting, I gave all my stuff away and had to start from scratch when I came back. I have a new appreciation for new players who have a hard time earning gold. A lot of veterans hve forgotten how much of a struggle it was when they began. I know I did.

    As long as the drop rates remain this low, the rich will only get richer. Something should be done, but sadly, it won't.
    Well yeah the prices are high. If someone gets lucky enough they will be able to sell and be rich! Jump on aboard the gold train!

    There will not be any point of farming if drops were so low because 1 reason is that I can just buy everything cheap in cs and basically I'm done.

    Of course everyone will have a different opinion on this topic but my reason stands that having low drop rates is good. I'm sure if you got a 1mil+ pink you wouldn't be complaining (:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notyocookiez View Post
    Well yeah the prices are high. If someone gets lucky enough they will be able to sell and be rich! Jump on aboard the gold train!

    There will not be any point of farming if drops were so low because 1 reason is that I can just buy everything cheap in cs and basically I'm done.

    Of course everyone will have a different opinion on this topic but my reason stands that having low drop rates is good. I'm sure if you got a 1mil+ pink you wouldn't be complaining (:
    I never said how much gold I have now. I said the drop rates are beyond ridiculous. Trust me, I have had my fair share of "legendary" drops, made my "millions", and I think it is still outrageous. Remember, some of us have been around long enough to know better. As Z and Cahaun stated, even AO2 was acceptable.

    Another thing is knowing the difference between complaining and stating fact. You also have to understand that not everyone has the luxury of waking up and spending all day on PL, 7 days a week.

    When only 10 legendary items from Humania are listed after 5 day of leveling and farming: Drop rate is too low.


    EDIT: I just noticed all the "bridging the gap" quotes. If youvwanna talk statistics and percentages, we can. Say there are 10,000 players at endgame. (Probably more, people forget that maybe only 10-20% of PL use forums... and that might be generous.) If the drop rate is 1% (and that's being generous also), and everyone did 100 runs, theoretically, you shpuld get a drop every 100 runs. However, just because that is what the statistics say, doesn't mean that is how the statisitics work. You may only have 10 people get a drop: 10 out of 10,000 is .001. You could do 100 more runs and you may get another 10 drops; they could drop to 10 different people or they may drop to the exact same 10. Sound like a good way to make gold to you?

    Also, just as in real life, those who get lucky with a quick buck, usually spend that quick buck. It happens in PL all the time. Someone may get a leather but need a robe. They had 200-300k, sold the leather for 5 mil and buy the robe for 5 mil. Back to 200-300k. I assure you that the rich in RL and PL do NOT spend their wealth in this manner.

    People have had "millions" since the early days. The same early days that had high pink drop rates. Raising the drop rates will not hurt the PL economy because more people will farm and sell on a regular basis instead of waiting for that "one" drop and stopping for a few weeks (which is what happens.) One of the greatest farmers in the game doesn't play as much anymore because there is no "thrill of the hunt" when the hunt is vacant. (And I can assure you he is one of the richest players in PL.)

    Drop rates need increasing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    To be honest, gear is priced too high. I have never understood why individuals feel the need to hoard all that gold and deprive otbers of the joy of the game. It use to not bother me as much, but after quitting, I gave all my stuff away and had to start from scratch when I came back. I have a new appreciation for new players who have a hard time earning gold. A lot of veterans hve forgotten how much of a struggle it was when they began. I know I did.

    As long as the drop rates remain this low, the rich will only get richer. Something should be done, but sadly, it won't.
    I merchanted Forest Haven greens and some purples/pinks as a new player for 1k-3k each and managed to make my first 1 million PL gold from that.
    Then I moved onto AO3 purples and Hi-Tech blasters and made another few million off of that.
    It's time and devotion. I would never have the drive to spend so much time merchanting and making so little profit compared to simple ten thousands of gold I could easily make via farming for an hour or so.

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    Friday I had posted the rate was good because i saw a pink drop after 20 runs. Since then it has been over a 100 without a sighting so perhaps it might not be as healthy as I thought.

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    They are trying to make PL like SL I think.

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    The catch is, if they increase the drop rates too much, then nobody makes money. I personally don't have any problem with how it is now.

    And yes, it has been addressed by developers. They adjusted the drop rate on helms in the latest patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBain View Post
    The catch is, if they increase the drop rates too much, then nobody makes money. I personally don't have any problem with how it is now.

    And yes, it has been addressed by developers. They adjusted the drop rate on helms in the latest patch.
    Let's not confuse pixel gold with money. You can't take it with you sobwhat good does it do you to have 3-4 capped players? Nothing.

    When I started playing, people gave sets away during runs to help each other out. When Shadow Caves first opened, I was given a full hate set just because soemone had extra. I later returned the favor by providing that person with all the int gear I farmed.

    Guess this is a negative side effect of being an adult in a kids game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    Let's not confuse pixel gold with money. You can't take it with you sobwhat good does it do you to have 3-4 capped players? Nothing.

    When I started playing, people gave sets away during runs to help each other out. When Shadow Caves first opened, I was given a full hate set just because soemone had extra. I later returned the favor by providing that person with all the int gear I farmed.

    Guess this is a negative side effect of being an adult in a kids game.
    I hear what you're saying, but I didn't see a solution anywhere. Sure, it's all pixels and Monopoly money, but PL "life" works the same way as real life does, to a certain extent. There a people that have a lot of gold and people who don't. Honestly, if everyone had everything the whole dynamic of the game would be ruined. And I'm saying this as someone who doesn't have a lot of gold (until recently, per my last post).

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBain View Post
    I hear what you're saying, but I didn't see a solution anywhere. Sure, it's all pixels and Monopoly money, but PL "life" works the same way as real life does, to a certain extent. There a people that have a lot of gold and people who don't. Honestly, if everyone had everything the whole dynamic of the game would be ruined. And I'm saying this as someone who doesn't have a lot of gold (until recently, per my last post).
    I am not saying "all or none." I am simply stating the costs of these sets are ridiculous. Ever since the intorduction of crafting and set bonuses, the cost of individual pieces, not just sets, has skyrocketed. People just set whatever price they want for gear. Tbis does not happen in real life (except in a true auction setting). I've been around for a long time and understand bow things work. Doesn't make it right tho and as long as this "conforming" continues, it will only get worse.


    If drop rates were closer to Sewers, things would be a lot better. These last three updates have been ridiculous.
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    Personally I think pinks drop too often in other areas of the game, I'm not high enough for humania so cant really comment there.
    But, a "pink" is supposedly a "legendary" item. This means, IMO that it should be extremely difficult to get.
    If they just dropped all the time it would be boring, and everyone would have great weapons.

    Just my opinion.

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    Yeah, when it comes right down to it, I don't totally disagree with you. I guess I'm just making my own observation.

    Edit: Think of this way though: at these high prices, the only people that can afford to be buying Humania gear are people who have a ton of gold. The person selling the gear also has a ton of gold, than nothing has really changed in the overall scheme of things. It's just a few million less in one person's stash and a few less in someone else's. That's not a win or a lose. But if the person selling is just your average player, then suddenly things have equalized a little bit. That's a win-win IMO. It's not perfect, but it's an upside. I actually believe that STS is attempting to regulate the PL economy, and that the drop rates we're seeing play into that, but economy is a tricky thing, be it real world or binary.
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