Engis dominate PVP now - a joke, right? -.-

[ShadowGunX]

I heard d proverb smewhere "Every dog has its day"

[Dynastu]

I'm not in what you say, I disagree .

Well, Astro... What makes Engi's OP this cap? Just what everyone's been saying in this thread, dodge. Or any stat. What caused Engi's to somehow drastically gain an advantage in PVP this cap? There were no changes to the Engi or Com's skills--it was gear.

Here's what happened. STS knows that because they have class specific gear, rebalancing things is simple. In an attempt to balance Engi's with the other classes, they tweaked gear stats and went a little too far. So, many people in this thread have stated, "It's Engi's turn to dominate, it's just fair that way." It's not. It's not ideal. An ideal state of class balance is any class fighting a different class and having an equal chance. This way, the biggest factor is skill. It's what everyone's been wanting in PL and SL.

Overall, the SL "department", or whatever, did a good job. They listened to what players said (unlike in PL) and attempted to fix the issue. They came fairly close, but overdid it. Tweaking stats some in a patch (as soon as possible) would most likely fix the "imbalance".

Astro, just to prove this, use a level 35 Engineer and fight a level 35 Commando.

For these reasons I really do hope that class specific gear will be used in Arcane Legends. While cross-class gear offers much more diversity and originality in the game in general, it was not at all well executed in PL. There are many things wrong with it, and while I don't dislike STS, they just don't seem to be able to handle the job of attempting to balance things with cross-class gear... So much that they stopped attempting to after the level 60 cap in PL. So, I really hope that they do not use cross-class gear (to a large extent) in Arcane Legends.

It's why I think SL has more potential than PL. And, ofc, DL does because they avoided the issue by offering one class with passive skills and a skill tree, which still adds quite a lot of diversity (good move).

[Kaytar]

OMG
Engineers have always been underpowered in PvP and right when you're evenly matched, it's unfair to you????

[Astrocat]

OMG
Engineers have always been underpowered in PvP and right when you're evenly matched, it's unfair to you????

This, I agree.

[Astrocat]

Well, Astro... What makes Engi's OP this cap? Just what everyone's been saying in this thread, dodge. Or any stat. What caused Engi's to somehow drastically gain an advantage in PVP this cap? There were no changes to the Engi or Com's skills--it was gear.

Here's what happened. STS knows that because they have class specific gear, rebalancing things is simple. In an attempt to balance Engi's with the other classes, they tweaked gear stats and went a little too far. So, many people in this thread have stated, "It's Engi's turn to dominate, it's just fair that way." It's not. It's not ideal. An ideal state of class balance is any class fighting a different class and having an equal chance. This way, the biggest factor is skill. It's what everyone's been wanting in PL and SL.

Overall, the SL "department", or whatever, did a good job. They listened to what players said (unlike in PL) and attempted to fix the issue. They came fairly close, but overdid it. Tweaking stats some in a patch (as soon as possible) would most likely fix the "imbalance".

Astro, just to prove this, use a level 35 Engineer and fight a level 35 Commando.

For these reasons I really do hope that class specific gear will be used in Arcane Legends. While cross-class gear offers much more diversity and originality in the game in general, it was not at all well executed in PL. There are many things wrong with it, and while I don't dislike STS, they just don't seem to be able to handle the job of attempting to balance things with cross-class gear... So much that they stopped attempting to after the level 60 cap in PL. So, I really hope that they do not use cross-class gear (to a large extent) in Arcane Legends.

It's why I think SL has more potential than PL. And, ofc, DL does because they avoided the issue by offering one class with passive skills and a skill tree, which still adds quite a lot of diversity (good move).

I'm not here to prove anything or to talk about it for ages. I'm happy with my engineer at the moment .

[Zaonabiuibil]

i saw a lv 41 op with pure dex and 927 armor! comms are supposed to be the tanks, engi once soloed the hole numa and i died so much, its not fair

I'm op, pure dex, 970 armour.

[ShadowGunX]

I'm op, pure dex, 970 armour.

*clap* *clap* *clap*

[BodMaster]

Well, Astro... What makes Engi's OP this cap? Just what everyone's been saying in this thread, dodge. Or any stat. What caused Engi's to somehow drastically gain an advantage in PVP this cap? There were no changes to the Engi or Com's skills--it was gear.

Here's what happened. STS knows that because they have class specific gear, rebalancing things is simple. In an attempt to balance Engi's with the other classes, they tweaked gear stats and went a little too far. So, many people in this thread have stated, "It's Engi's turn to dominate, it's just fair that way." It's not. It's not ideal. An ideal state of class balance is any class fighting a different class and having an equal chance. This way, the biggest factor is skill. It's what everyone's been wanting in PL and SL.

Overall, the SL "department", or whatever, did a good job. They listened to what players said (unlike in PL) and attempted to fix the issue. They came fairly close, but overdid it. Tweaking stats some in a patch (as soon as possible) would most likely fix the "imbalance".

Astro, just to prove this, use a level 35 Engineer and fight a level 35 Commando.

For these reasons I really do hope that class specific gear will be used in Arcane Legends. While cross-class gear offers much more diversity and originality in the game in general, it was not at all well executed in PL. There are many things wrong with it, and while I don't dislike STS, they just don't seem to be able to handle the job of attempting to balance things with cross-class gear... So much that they stopped attempting to after the level 60 cap in PL. So, I really hope that they do not use cross-class gear (to a large extent) in Arcane Legends.

It's why I think SL has more potential than PL. And, ofc, DL does because they avoided the issue by offering one class with passive skills and a skill tree, which still adds quite a lot of diversity (good move).

Man I like this person! Makes a whole lot of sense, and is saying exactly my point from the start of this thread.

Don't waste your time, its not worth it, as long as they are OP/on top they are happy. Before "tweak" they were breaking out they were gonna quit and moaning on every single thread. Now that more then half the update was nerfd to make it easy they are happy, and telling others that they need to stop "being negative" lmao.

OMG
Engineers have always been underpowered in PvP and right when you're evenly matched, it's unfair to you????

This, I agree.

Lol..

Kay when did you start PvPn? They haven't been "underpowered" through the whole of the game, and if you took a few mins to test out lower lvl PvP you will find Engi are quite dominant.

Evenly matched you say? If that was the case there wouldn't be a need of this discussion..

or to talk about it for ages. I'm happy with my engineer at the moment .

I'd love to hear you end of why you disagree with everything " Dynastu" is saying.. because I'm pretty sure you couldn't if you tried.

All that PvP is about is mocked here. PvP is not about OP, its about knowing your class and being able to react in split moments to counter attack anything coming at you. It's about strategy. Not "We are the best, Engi/OP so now we rule".

[Urqui]

Wait it out till next update, like we engineers waited last time

[Cero]

My com Died from a level 44 Eng. using the new epic gears.
But its alright i havent fully tested/looked on Pink set/orange set and other items.
I saw one orange part that adds 7%dodge,

this Eng domination wont last for its not right(ahem)

Cya IGame

PS: took screenie while on Inc Mass buff(+300 armor)

[PianoWizzy]

Before update: People were whining that the engineer has no chance in PvP

After Update: People are whining that the engineer has a better chance in PvP

That was precisely the first thing I was thinking.

Comms and ops, especially the ops, but the over-dodge'd comms too, had 9.7 months to squish unsuspecting engis into pulp without gear, skill, or effort, that could have been 5 levels above them and likely dominated PvP in that field from the opening of PvP in this game in the first place.

You haven't had enough?

We don't deserve the same rotation of power?

[BodMaster]

No you misunderstood, we all deserve better from StS to finally fix "balanced" PvP, or it is all meaningless. They should have done it when they added PvP arenas to the game. Like I said, 10+ Months and they can't even adjust PvP to make it fair between all classes. (Even though it could of been the day of release if they wanted to)

[Seiyen]

At lvl 41 cap,comm were boss:
High armour+high dodge+lots of health+those 2 deadly skills(mass+critical buff)
i think its time for engs to rule the world
So yea its pretty fair

[Astrocat]

At lvl 41 cap,comm were boss:
High armour+high dodge+lots of health+those 2 deadly skills(mass+critical buff)
i think its time for engs to rule the world
So yea its pretty fair

Agreeeeeed!


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[Cephei]

No you misunderstood, we all deserve better from StS to finally fix "balanced" PvP, or it is all meaningless. They should have done it when they added PvP arenas to the game. Like I said, 10+ Months and they can't even adjust PvP to make it fair between all classes. (Even though it could of been the day of release if they wanted to)

Thanks
Finally someone who understands my point.

[Zaonabiuibil]

That was precisely the first thing I was thinking.

Comms and ops, especially the ops, but the over-dodge'd comms too, had 9.7 months to squish unsuspecting engis into pulp without gear, skill, or effort, that could have been 5 levels above them and likely dominated PvP in that field from the opening of PvP in this game in the first place.

You haven't had enough?

We don't deserve the same rotation of power?

custom coms > ops

most of the time

but being an eng PvPer at the lv41 cap. ehhh.. It was hard. I dunno how I maintained a positive kdr.

[Cero]

the key for coms to get back on track is getting the pink set,

7%dodge
highest armor boost.


and also theres an orange armor that gives 7%dodge per parts

[BodMaster]

Thanks
Finally someone who understands my point.

Lol, you would think anyone that truly loves a challenge would understand this bud. Unfortunately players that have less talent love to go the OP class.

[PianoWizzy]

custom coms > ops

most of the time

but being an eng PvPer at the lv41 cap. ehhh.. It was hard. I dunno how I maintained a positive kdr.

Ahh I remember that now. At the L41 cap, a legendary op kills a custom comm toe-to-toe.

[Feoza]

lol c'mon it's a game people -_-