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    Default Bear bug??

    Im realizing bears are getting much overpowered at all lvls nowadays.. They can beckon stomp every race while dodging 8/10 attacks.. Im seeing many new bears owning many pros on birds and mages by criting everysingle attack and dodging almost all.. Please fix!

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    Its not the bears...its the gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnomecide View Post
    Its not the bears...its the gear.
    Ya he hit it right on target if u look at the dodge on the str sets its crazy its just overpowered easy to kite but overpowered.
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    Yeah, the new end game gear has like 400 DPS for a BEAR O_o... 1h of course...

    If practice makes perfect and perfection is impossible, why practice?
    Oh, wait... No need to practice. iHax.

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    Not the dodge either. I feel I've been dying way faster than before and dodging less. What is overpowered is the damage.

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    You should try pvp under level 50... mages pretty much dominate 22+ and now with the forgotten bows the archers are getting op.

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    Bears aren't op. I'll write more later.

    Flower are you a mage that played last two caps?
    Retired: Alwaysdt 71 Mage. Legends never die, they just fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbsolutePally View Post
    Bears aren't op. I'll write more later.

    Flower are you a mage that played last two caps?
    My thoughts exactly....bwhahahahaha

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    Mages are op-est class actually.
    Mages think bears are op, birds think mages are op, and after introduction of fb, few ..... thinks birds are op.

    But ya playing as bear is the easiest job.
    Last edited by Waug; 11-01-2012 at 12:55 AM.

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    Bear has been OP and easy to play since 66 cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticaldream View Post
    Bear has been OP and easy to play since 66 cap.
    More like since 56 cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodleleg View Post
    More like since 56 cap.
    again depends on the gear really, fury/royal sewer is pretty ez
    as is using anything with a glyph mace
    at 66 id say more that birds are underpowered thank anyone overpowered
    71 the crusher is the main culprit for str and this scythe at 76
    more than anything i think all dodge should be reduced at all levels
    tbh i think 50 dodge should be the cap for bears and around 40 for birds who desperately need an armour buff of about 20 id say
    tho tbh id say really mages are the easiest class to play at any level above 22
    this mainly goes for playing in forest fight as ofc adding walls everywhere makes bears quite simply if you have any idea how to play bear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodleleg View Post
    More like since 56 cap.
    This is a bear discussion. Get out pls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnomecide View Post
    Not the dodge either. I feel I've been dying way faster than before and dodging less. What is overpowered is the damage.
    Ur totally right! My bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyseon View Post
    again depends on the gear really, fury/royal sewer is pretty ez
    as is using anything with a glyph mace
    at 66 id say more that birds are underpowered thank anyone overpowered
    71 the crusher is the main culprit for str and this scythe at 76
    more than anything i think all dodge should be reduced at all levels
    tbh i think 50 dodge should be the cap for bears and around 40 for birds who desperately need an armour buff of about 20 id say
    tho tbh id say really mages are the easiest class to play at any level above 22
    this mainly goes for playing in forest fight as ofc adding walls everywhere makes bears quite simply if you have any idea how to play bear
    Play as a bear nowadays is easy, under 20 auto stomp run, above 20 bekon stomp run... I reiterare any nub bear can own any pro mage nowadays... If u dont believe me add my 51 bear "jiunar" and fight me with a mage xD.. And im so nub with bear.. Example: if u pvp at 51 lvl u should know funkyread (promage, probably best 51 mage)i can easily own him with my bear with just 4 skills while he makes me 0 dmage..P.S: my bear suks a lot.. What im trying to say its that they can dodge almost all or crit all.. But both same time... Lame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower View Post
    Play as a bear nowadays is easy, under 20 auto stomp run, above 20 bekon stomp run... I reiterare any nub bear can own any pro mage nowadays... If u dont believe me add my 51 bear "jiunar" and fight me with a mage xD.. And im so nub with bear.. Example: if u pvp at 51 lvl u should know funkyread (promage, probably best 51 mage)i can easily own him with my bear with just 4 skills while he makes me 0 dmage..P.S: my bear suks a lot.. What im trying to say its that they can dodge almost all or crit all.. But both same time... Lame
    because of exactly what i said
    a bear can tank a combo at 51 taking no dmg as they can get like 65+ dodge with a sword
    this needs a reduction as i already stated
    also at 51-55 theres the obnoxious(yes i use it lol) build of royal sewer helm and armour with the weapon choice of a custom/raid/drainers recurve which still leave you with plenty of dodge as well as range for kiting and a very powerful 30% hit stacking debuff when added with hellscream, mages are going to miss almost everything
    also there are those with forgotten bows which are very OP and sts doesnt care so dont even worry about that
    imo royal sewers str req should be upped so you cant have a set with loads of dodge and still range and great hit
    its not the bears that are OP; its dodge. i mean just think of what dodge is: a 100% damage reduction
    as a 55 bear my favorite set to use is the fortified set with can be easily nuked by a mage if you dont know what you're doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by legendfb View Post
    Mages are op-est class actually.
    Mages think bears are op, birds think mages are op, and after introduction of fb, few ..... thinks birds are op.
    Uhmmm.. Been playin a lot and no... Only bears are op.. Example: fighting a bear 61 on my lilith.. I have
    But ya playing as bear is the easiest job.
    Uhmm, been playin a lot and no.. Only bears r op. Example: fighting an orlok one handed sword with my lilith mage.. He has 10 more armor than me, 50 crit and 50 armor, i got 90 crit and much more dmge.. I hit 1 of 6 skills and when i get him i hit 50s... His bekon lands and hits me 200, his stomp lands and hits 250, combo goes to another 250... Total of two bear skills 700 dmge!! While dodging 5 out of 6??? My 3 year old cousin could own any pro mage-.-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower View Post
    Uhmm, been playin a lot and no.. Only bears r op. Example: fighting an orlok one handed sword with my lilith mage.. He has 10 more armor than me, 50 crit and 50 armor, i got 90 crit and much more dmge.. I hit 1 of 6 skills and when i get him i hit 50s... His bekon lands and hits me 200, his stomp lands and hits 250, combo goes to another 250... Total of two bear skills 700 dmge!! While dodging 5 out of 6??? My 3 year old cousin could own any pro mage-.-
    Stop crying.

    Maybe instead of spending all your time here complaining you should be in PvP practicing how to play your class better. Tbh if you can't win on a mage then I think its safe to say you shouldn't be pvping. You said it yourself bear only has 10 more armor then you and you have twice as much crit, not to even mention the fact you have heal and a mana shield! You say you can't hit him them because they dodge then try using your debuffs...lol... sounds to me like your just looking for a class to blame for your inability to win.

    Oh yeh and just a tip.... try using the edit button instead of posting 5x in a row in a desperate attempt to keep this troll thread alive.

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    50 armor no.. 50 dodge* srry xD

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    Oo btw another example.. Fighting an obedience bear with my Bird with drainers armor and helm and forgotten bow.. I got 56 armor , while he had around 30 buffed, and he killed me autoing solo!! While i used every single skill... He dodged all except one, and i dodged 3 of 9... How u explain smart devs???pfff

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