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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    It's a screenshot of a full stack for each Skill: one main Skill at the top. Four (4) Skill Upgrades down the center with two (2) Perks per Upgrade. Are we saying the same thing? It is indeed eight (8) Perks per Skill at Max Level.
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    So my initial thought was as I've given the example (p = Perk) it didn't make sense to have a 3rd collom as you would have to activate your upgrade to be able to select the perk

    It wasn't until I started to add text to the image I noticed the icons for the upgrades are different sizes with the center ones being slightly larger (perks on the left and right)

    Maybe something up for a vote but in my opinion at least would seem to flow better going from left-right or seeing as it is still in development perhaps different icons completely from the upgrades themselves to make it more distinguishable

    Looking forward to messing around with the skills after all these years of using the same 2/3 different sets (PvE, Honor & Outpost) XD


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    Quote Originally Posted by BaronB View Post
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    So my initial thought was as I've given the example (p = Perk) it didn't make sense to have a 3rd collom as you would have to activate your upgrade to be able to select the perk

    It wasn't until I started to add text to the image I noticed the icons for the upgrades are different sizes with the center ones being slightly larger (perks on the left and right)

    Maybe something up for a vote but in my opinion at least would seem to flow better going from left-right or seeing as it is still in development perhaps different icons completely from the upgrades themselves to make it more distinguishable

    Looking forward to messing around with the skills after all these years of using the same 2/3 different sets (PvE, Honor & Outpost) XD


    Stay blessed

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    I agree, skills should be far left and perks branch to the right. Or there are 4 skill at the top and perks branch off going down. Having skills centered and perks to each side doesn't feel right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaronB View Post
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    So my initial thought was as I've given the example (p = Perk) it didn't make sense to have a 3rd collom as you would have to activate your upgrade to be able to select the perk

    It wasn't until I started to add text to the image I noticed the icons for the upgrades are different sizes with the center ones being slightly larger (perks on the left and right)

    Maybe something up for a vote but in my opinion at least would seem to flow better going from left-right or seeing as it is still in development perhaps different icons completely from the upgrades themselves to make it more distinguishable

    Looking forward to messing around with the skills after all these years of using the same 2/3 different sets (PvE, Honor & Outpost) XD


    Stay blessed

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    Personally I prefer their approach, with the main upgrade in the middle and perks on the sides. The other approach could have the advantage, of being easier to understand, but I think we'll see whether that's a problem or not, when the skill revamp is here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaAaT View Post
    Personally I prefer their approach, with the main upgrade in the middle and perks on the sides. The other approach could have the advantage, of being easier to understand, but I think we'll see whether that's a problem or not, when the skill revamp is here.
    Yeah agreed with that also I feel like it's more aesthetic when split left and right and the main upgrade on the middle. When you turn the order from left to right perks probably gonna make people feel like the last perk is probably the most useful one (you know since it's the last upgrade it looks like so) might cause trouble here for the beginners especially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaronB View Post
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    So my initial thought was as I've given the example (p = Perk) it didn't make sense to have a 3rd collom as you would have to activate your upgrade to be able to select the perk

    It wasn't until I started to add text to the image I noticed the icons for the upgrades are different sizes with the center ones being slightly larger (perks on the left and right)

    Maybe something up for a vote but in my opinion at least would seem to flow better going from left-right or seeing as it is still in development perhaps different icons completely from the upgrades themselves to make it more distinguishable

    Looking forward to messing around with the skills after all these years of using the same 2/3 different sets (PvE, Honor & Outpost) XD


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    Thanks so much for the effort!

    My visualization for this is meant to reinforce that Perks are exclusive choices. Putting the upgrade in the middle and the Perks on either side is intended to communicate this exclusivity - whereas having them set up as Upgrade - Perk1 - Perk2 seems to indicate that you can have both and/or that you need Perk1 to unlock Perk2.

    Nevertheless, I look forward to running your mockup by the team for their comments. Thanks again!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squlo View Post
    Yeah agreed with that also I feel like it's more aesthetic when split left and right and the main upgrade on the middle. When you turn the order from left to right perks probably gonna make people feel like the last perk is probably the most useful one (you know since it's the last upgrade it looks like so) might cause trouble here for the beginners especially.
    Thats actually a really good point made about the last perk on the giving the impression that it would mean might be better one! thank you for the perspective, never actually crossed my mind thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Thanks so much for the effort!

    My visualization for this is meant to reinforce that Perks are exclusive choices. Putting the upgrade in the middle and the Perks on either side is intended to communicate this exclusivity - whereas having them set up as Upgrade - Perk1 - Perk2 seems to indicate that you can have both and/or that you need Perk1 to unlock Perk2.

    Nevertheless, I look forward to running your mockup by the team for their comments. Thanks again!!
    My pleasure, and thank you for getting back to us all!

    But with Squlo`s post and your explanation, Im converted to the idea of the Skills being in the middle with the different perks on either side.

    I appreciate it would also be a little more work to do, but having new icons to make the individual perks more distinctive than the Skills would compliment the work put into the new perks and make it that much sweeter as eye candy XD



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