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    Quote Originally Posted by Vikusato View Post
    So basically you buffed hedo and ezg to such an extent that you can no longer run them without a premade party of good players geared up to the brim (run effectively to earn gold). So you just forced the good players who were actually helping out not fully geared players by running randoms/partying up with them to stop completely because now they can't effectively earn gold by running with them.

    Long story short u just made another road block for newer players to enter the game without spending money.

    Because logically speaking with the current buff on hedo n ezg u won't find any party unless u are geared up .
    No more carrying ur friends/playing with ur friends who r not geared up .
    No more helping guild mates out by helping them farm.
    Imagine saying "time to make new friends" when this only applies to players with good gears to huddle up and farm in a pre made team. While leaving the newer n not geared up players behind . Lmaoooo the hypocrisy is unreal
    Saying that only premade groups of top geared players can run Hedo effectively is not accurate - nevertheless you've communicated the emotional side of this issue very well.

    Furthermore, I appreciate your candor with respect to the motives for players (who could previously solo Hedo very easily) insofar as they aren't as interested in carrying / helping as they are with gaining large amounts of gold in only a few seconds. I get this and I get how this tends to create a vicious fervor on the forums since gold loot has become so very important.

    Everyone is getting more powerful all the time. While we did go from Hedo dropping in a couple of seconds to now taking upwards of thirty seconds to a minute we'll definitely see these completion times shrink like crazy.

    From my perspective there was no reason to drop anything good from Hedo if he could be solo'ed in under 5 seconds. Now there's a reason for us to move forward with farming initiatives for Elder Woods. I hope that these future efforts entice you to run the content for reasons other than pure gold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Saying that only premade groups of top geared players can run Hedo effectively is not accurate - nevertheless you've communicated the emotional side of this issue very well.

    Furthermore, I appreciate your candor with respect to the motives for players (who could previously solo Hedo very easily) insofar as they aren't as interested in carrying / helping as they are with gaining large amounts of gold in only a few seconds. I get this and I get how this tends to create a vicious fervor on the forums since gold loot has become so very important.

    Everyone is getting more powerful all the time. While we did go from Hedo dropping in a couple of seconds to now taking upwards of thirty seconds to a minute we'll definitely see these completion times shrink like crazy.

    From my perspective there was no reason to drop anything good from Hedo if he could be solo'ed in under 5 seconds. Now there's a reason for us to move forward with farming initiatives for Elder Woods. I hope that these future efforts entice you to run the content for reasons other than pure gold.
    You could appease us by making it 10% more manageable and increase difficulty when u actually introduce gear that can do the type of damage you have in mind. Glad to see ego is more important than actually keeping game alive. For me this was the last straw, i have no reason to invest in gear i can’t enjoy. Meaning i have absolutely no reason to ever use my credit card in this game. Thank you for the change. Has been a good run.


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    Quote Originally Posted by navabi View Post
    You could appease us by making it 10% more manageable and increase difficulty when u actually introduce gear that can do the type of damage you have in mind.
    Yeah. That's actually quite fair.

    Given the completion times pre-buff it made a lot of sense to me that it would be more fun to fight Hedourah for at least 10 seconds or so.

    I'll take another look at how players are doing against this encounter. A full rollback may be in order - or we could nerf what we have by a decent measure (so he's not paper like he used to be, but not the "impossible" monster he is now).

    Later, when I have all the stuff that I want him to be dropping we can revisit how tough he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Yeah. That's actually quite fair.

    Given the completion times pre-buff it made a lot of sense to me that it would be more fun to fight Hedourah for at least 10 seconds or so.

    I'll take another look at how players are doing against this encounter. A full rollback may be in order - or we could nerf what we have by a decent measure (so he's not paper like he used to be, but not the "impossible" monster he is now).

    Later, when I have all the stuff that I want him to be dropping we can revisit how tough he is.
    I’m not against the buff completely and i do agree SOME would be reasonable. But the way he is now? Eraha is more profitable and that is depressing. Again i urge you to rebalance the buff. I never said remove it completely and many of the other comments don’t. Just make it manageable and make it asap. Because as of right now i truly have no reason to enter this game. I have probably more than 20-30k runs in eraha and i did not buy gear of this magnitude to do some more. Be reasonable.


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