Well duh. U r immortal. Ur 0.5 kdr tells that message.Originally Posted by Ephesius
Well duh. U r immortal. Ur 0.5 kdr tells that message.
Umm hateraptor does ace and cliff ring a bell? Lol, i dont delete history eitherOh the screenshots of the PMs I could post.....Maybe I should considering this thread will probably get locked now anyway.
ETA: LOL....You said he was asking $400? This is the PM I got from him asking where hes been in game....
The cause: This is probably your most valid point. Even so, removing founders will not help this. There will always be issues like this. I remember someone threatening to hack me if I didn't give him my level 10 present shield.
End level stats: This is a very invalid point that you made. Just in case you haven't been twinking lately, let me remind you that most characters die in about two shots. Not ten. You have forgotten bows to thank for that. End game it doesn't make a difference because end game has been screwed for some time...but that's for another thread
The fake people: Im not exactly sure what your point is here. I LOVE founders helms and I support them 100%. Oh, btw, I don't have one. Would I like one? I suppose. I certainly won't scam for one, though. You mentioned the "majority" of players don't like them? I would love to know just how you figured this out. Especially considering that the majority of players don't even know what a founder helm is.
Reality: I believe you make a fairly valid point here. Let me introduce you to new logic. Two wrongs don't make a right. Lets say for a minute that it was definitely wrong for sts to give out those founders helms. It would be equally as wrong (if not more so) to remove them now. You suggested adding new rewards? This whole thread is complaining about the old ones. I don't even...Wut...halp!
Conclusion: You go ahead and stick to your story. I believe that it's people like you who save games like PL. However, your original post doesn't have any thanks for a reason. I'm sorry you feel that founders are a problem. Unfortunately I believe the vast majority of players do not, in fact, agree with you.
My conclusion- Founders are fine. Most people like them and therefore there is no reason for the devs to change them.
"It's time we let go of the past and keep moving forward."~Meet the Robinsons
Last edited by MightyMicah; 12-08-2012 at 04:02 PM.
(Sorry for the double post...)
DROP IT.
What did I do now? At first I recognized LwMark as one of the true Founder's and after that people started raging at him like he bought one and stuff and in my quoted reply to that I explained what LwMark explained. I don't understand why u attacked to me.
You should lose your forum access then, since all you can contribute is negativity.I don't even play STS games anymoreAfter 2 years they just don't do it for me anymore.
Growwle - My guess is 1050
Yeh, well guess what i have two full elite vanity set accounts i forgot about.. lemme email STS see if i can get em mergedddd haha yeah NOT! (Sarcasm)
Sent using blood on a bathroom wall
@ Apollo - please do post those proof of people admitting to purchasing founders. You were on the right track and you stopped...did they talk you out of exposing them in private messages?Expose these people and be a true community guy
Yes please post@ Apollo - please do post those proof of people admitting to purchasing founders. You were on the right track and you stopped...did they talk you out of exposing them in private messages?
Last edited by LwMark; 12-08-2012 at 08:07 PM.
First off, thank you for actually reading my post unlike some other people here who automatically flame without even reading the thread. Also thank you for some of the compliments you gave me, I very much appreciate it. Let me just reitterate some stuff:The cause: This is probably your most valid point. Even so, removing founders will not help this. There will always be issues like this. I remember someone threatening to hack me if I didn't give him my level 10 present shield.
End level stats: This is a very invalid point that you made. Just in case you haven't been twinking lately, let me remind you that most characters die in about two shots. Not ten. You have forgotten bows to thank for that. End game it doesn't make a difference because end game has been screwed for some time...but that's for another thread
The fake people: Im not exactly sure what your point is here. I LOVE founders helms and I support them 100%. Oh, btw, I don't have one. Would I like one? I suppose. I certainly won't scam for one, though. You mentioned the "majority" of players don't like them? I would love to know just how you figured this out. Especially considering that the majority of players don't even know what a founder helm is.
Reality: I believe you make a fairly valid point here. Let me introduce you to new logic. Two wrongs don't make a right. Lets say for a minute that it was definitely wrong for sts to give out those founders helms. It would be equally as wrong (if not more so) to remove them now. You suggested adding new rewards? This whole thread is complaining about the old ones. I don't even...Wut...halp!
Conclusion: You go ahead and stick to your story. I believe that it's people like you who save games like PL. However, your original post doesn't have any thanks for a reason. I'm sorry you feel that founders are a problem. Unfortunately I believe the vast majority of players do not, in fact, agree with you.
My conclusion- Founders are fine. Most people like them and therefore there is no reason for the devs to change them.
"It's time we let go of the past and keep moving forward."~Meet the Robinsons
Endlevel Stats: Endlevel stats are exactly this, Endlevel stats. Not sure why you included twinking in endlevel stats. As for late level pvp being dead, I really believe that this will be a small step forward in balancing PVP for all levels. Anytime you level the playing field, it makes everything more fair and fun. A normal encounter can take way more then 10 attacks in actuality. ESPECIALLY with all the STR sets in late level pvp. Ever see a mage against bear fight? A mage on mage fight? Bear on Bear? These battles take alot more time and attacks then just 10. Once you keep adding the 5 5 5(5 damage 5 armor 5 dps) into the equation it makes a HUGE difference especially with crit. Trust me on this.
The Fake people: The majority of people do have a problem with founders. Thats why their is so many threads about it and thats why its banned in many low level tournaments. If the People who dont know about it were told about it, wouldnt you think they would find it unjust?
Reality: Sts is not giving away founders, people are illegally obtaining them through the black market. Something must be done about this. If it was such a small bonus then why are peolpe paying hundreds of dollars for such a small bonus? The answer is simple, people are not willing to admit the importance of this helm, but will go off and pay for the advantage.
Conclusion: I dont care if I dont recieve thanks, this is not a popularity contest and I am not looking to gain friends from this. I want to get the truth out and help level out the playing field for all levels of pvp. Thank you mighty for your post
lwmark here is some proofOh the screenshots of the PMs I could post.....Maybe I should considering this thread will probably get locked now anyway.
ETA: LOL....You said he was asking $400? This is the PM I got from him asking where hes been in game....
The person who posted this post has been involved in flippin founds *cough* *cliff* people make me lollwmark here is some proofOh the screenshots of the PMs I could post.....Maybe I should considering this thread will probably get locked now anyway.
ETA: LOL....You said he was asking $400? This is the PM I got from him asking where hes been in game....
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I am closing this thread now.
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