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    So in trying to level my bear I've noticed there's a shortage of competent healers.. When I'm tanking I seem to have to spam health pots to stay alive on some bosses, and when I'm holding several mobs. Meanwhile the healers just use their auto-attack, ignoring my health bar (oblivious to the fact that when I die, they do too). I can't seem to ever find a decent PUG anymore. Just today, I died halfway through a level. The response to my 'Rez please' was 'I don't have rez'...
    Mainly, the question is, why play a support character if you're not going to support because you're too busy spamming your auto attack? Honestly the heals are more beneficial to the group than the miniscule damage your staff is doing compared to the birds. I know there are players who seem to play the Mage right, and when I'm in groups with them the levels are a breeze and I rarely have to pot.
    Which is why, way back in April, I tried a bear, and switched to enchantress almost immediately - there was a shortage of people that healed. Basically, I died too much as a bear for my liking, much of which could be avoidable with teamwork. After a break from the game, I returned, starting up a strength bear. It's a fun character, but only when I am in a group with a skilled enchantress. Otherwise, I need to spam pots, which isn't cost effective, or die and let my teammates die as well. Asking the mage to "Heal more often please" more often than not leads to nothing. Playing my bear has now become frustrating because of this.
    This isn't a complaint, more of a rant, and I don't expect anyone to do anything about it. Kind of an, "I was the healer for a while. Now I wanna play a new class, but I can't find anyone to heal me." I know most of the people here on the forums are the more competent players, so this probably doesn't apply to anyone here. I know everyone can play as they want, so if you don't wanna heal, you don't have to. The game really goes faster when you do, because I the tank don't die, thus losing aggro and likely killing you as well.

    Thanks for the read; opinions welcome.

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    I totally agree with you and I realized it me too with my L28 warrior :P

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    incompetents tend to think they can play Mage.
    my Mage is pvp pure, and so I don't have Rez, but with my 200hp heal spam I'll make sure I never need to use it


    just like you, things that make me mad:

    not healing when team is obviously hurt
    not rezzing immediately but just trying to rambo and kill everything beforehand... guess what, you can't.
    not knowing that heal cures negative status effects. unfreeze, mend, fearless.... no one seems to know these anymore.
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    vulgar, seems like you are #2 on the enchantress kdr ranking.
    Goodbye

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raxie View Post
    vulgar, seems like you are #2 on the enchantress kdr ranking.
    did it change?
    oh well I better get working on it then!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raxie View Post
    vulgar, seems like you are #2 on the enchantress kdr ranking.
    word, right under ME!
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    when fighting bosses my eyes aren't on the action but on the tiny little bars to the left lool. sequence for perfect backup mage/pally= buffs (also means self armor and crit), debuffs, fire combo (if applicable) and heal all the rest of the way... if you die in my party, blame yourself and possible distractions heheh. I even go back for the fallen!
    if I personally am the one getting hit i don't immediately use heal, i use drain health, just in case

    edit: lol, there were no comments while writing this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raxie View Post
    vulgar, seems like you are #2 on the enchantress kdr ranking.
    word, right under ME!
    i saw her once, and swore i was in love...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickdigcookies View Post
    word, right under ME!
    don't think I won't catch up
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    Quote Originally Posted by vulgarstrike View Post
    don't think I won't catch up
    lol, dont worry...i could care less.

    lvl 28 btw...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickdigcookies View Post
    lol, dont worry...i could care less.

    lvl 28 btw...
    lol
    it took me 2 days to get top.
    kill farm ftw
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    i call ye both on charges of too much rant. borderline trolling here. my sig makes me... agghh...
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    Here's the thing, there are also a ton of bears coming up that don't know how to tank, and birds comiing up that don't know how to debuff or target the most strategic mobs. Mages who don't heal are just the easiest to recognize, and a full team can get away with poor tanking and random targeting for the first few campaigns, but with regen completely gear based and scarce at low levels, healers are really needed much earlier (though pots are an option, but can get expensive for a warrior especially). Th point is, there are two issues IMO. New players don't know how to play, and sometimes need some tips. Also mages are expected to burn much more mana than other classes much earlier and must fund this with gold since regen is impossible to come by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vulgarstrike View Post
    incompetents tend to think they can play Mage.
    my Mage is pvp pure, and so I don't have Rez, but with my 200hp heal spam I'll make sure I never need to use it


    just like you, things that make me mad:

    not healing when team is obviously hurt
    not rezzing immediately but just trying to rambo and kill everything beforehand... guess what, you can't.
    not knowing that heal cures negative status effects. unfreeze, mend, fearless.... no one seems to know these anymore.
    Dude, they never know it.

    These people that make you mad are noobs! They're just plain simple nooby noobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vulgarstrike
    not rezzing immediately but just trying to rambo and kill everything beforehand... guess what, you can't.
    there are so many rambos out there... and they always rez AFTER the fight after they get all the items...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arterra View Post
    there are so many rambos out there... and they always rez AFTER the fight after they get all the items...
    Buncha thieves!
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    honestly if the game was built so healers were needed, people would heal.

    as they say, "don't hate the player, hate the game"

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    u obiviously have not played with me.... INCHING~!
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    NOOBS NOOBS AND NOOBS EVERYWHERE IN TOWN
    how do i heal?
    How do i make char?
    Whats an ab?
    How do you put in attribute points?
    Whats skill?
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    With my paly I once had a run with a bear tank and dex bird and it was beautiful, I swear to god, he would run forward gather some mobs, I be right on his butt, he'd taunt and drag the mobs in then weakness, stomp (nightmare) then icestorm, stomp, (shattered), then thornwalls would hit from the bird and I'd lightning and (nature strike).

    Rinse and repeat, damn to hell if I remember who either of them were, but we were almost psychic in our play.

    Edit I forget to mention not much healing went on as we just pwned.

    Oh there was two others doing something during this plasma run, mainly desperate to keep up and we were not rushing.
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