PVP Unfair Advantage

[Diabloh]

Hi everyone. I wanted to bring up this topic about PVP. During my first... 10 rounds of PVP, it was really enjoyable! I had fun, unlike in starlegends. I soon found out that I was one of the strongest players in most rounds, with 176 DPS at level 16, and over 1200 health, it became very easy and fun for me. But in about my 20th match... I found a problem. While fighting for the winning CTF point, I couldn't move at all, or attack. I was making a "WTF" face for quite abit. I figured out that a level 14 just kept charging and stunning me, it took him over 15 seconds to kill me, but I couldnt do anything at all. This, is totally unfair. I would like comments on this and some updates in the game either removing Stuns from PVP, or just removing stuns from the Charged Weapon Attack. This topic was serious enough for me to where I actually made a forum account and posted this. Thanks for listening, spread the word please... I'm starting to get really tired of this "Cheap" tactic in PVP and it can definately upset some players.

[Destructible]

Sorry for countering you, but that's the whole point of Pvp. There's always a player that's better than you and so you strive to overcome him Using stuns/freeze and winning isn't a 'cheap' tactic but rather is part of someone else's hard work at devising a perfect combo. I suggest you do the same

[Diabloh]

Being unable to fight the entire battle isn't PVP. I wouldn't mind the stuns staying for skills, but This has happened on more then Several occasions.

[drgrimmy]

Hmm first of all, u should have posted this in the PvP section...

What class are you, and what class are you having this problem against? Which weapon are
they using and is it the charged attack of the weapon (I doubt it) or a specific skill. Yes certain
skills like charged fireball do have stun, but this, for example, is one of the only usefull tools in
a mages arsenal and is by no means cheap. I think few would consider a mage overpowered
in PvP. Warriors can also stun, but if u are one of the other classes u should just try your best
not melee them too much (yes an absolute death sentence at least for a mage). There are ways
to try to avoid getting stun but just take practice. Don't give up hope. I may be playing one of
the more underpowered classes and just consider it a challenge, not stressing too much about
my k/d (well maybe just a little bit)

[elbowroom]

Although I don't really think that it's unfair, it definitely takes a lot of the fun out of it for me.

[Ladycandyheal]

I was annoyed by stuns too but I'm getting used to PVP a bit more and have made more strategic choices on my Rogue when a warrior comes my way.

I can stun with Skyward Smash on my warrior which on the other hand is a good tactic. I also noticed very quickly that stuns on my warrior and rogue although frustrating, can sometimes be overcome. Stun them right back or quickly spam the regular attack or try to run if you see a way out etc.

Now, PVP is becoming more fun because I don't just rush in there. It's not DM, it's a Team PVP, so staying close to your teammates or having good team work, will help you if you are in trouble. I've had lots of team mates beat the snot out of someone stunning me or trying to kill me.

Stick with it is my advice. Stun is a part of skills that they allow and I've seen it used in other MMORPG PVP as well. Learn ways to become a better more efficient PVP'er and then you might find yourself turning around the situation completely!

[Diabloh]

I know that certain classes have skills that shouldn't be considered cheap. I do not mean Skills, I mean when you Charge your weapon, and attack, it normally stuns your target. I know it stuns when fully charged on rogue, and possibly for warrior and Mage. But I've had someone just "spam stun" me, which takes the fun out of it. To answer questions, I'm a rogue. Sorry I didn't see a PVP Forum section. Each class definately has their own advantages, but being able to incapacitate someone for an entire battle, shouldn't be one :P. I don't mind getting Insta-killed, but the stuns... Rage quit!

[Destructible]

If can someone can stun you just as long, shouldn't you be able to do the same to them? Figure it out, then apply it.

[Pulkeren]

you are crazy !!!

[Arcana]

rogue charged attck will stun about 90% when others only about 50% so yeah its one of the class balance problem
cheap rogue will run a bit then stun and repeat it and u die without doing anything.So I totally agree it should be fix
the problem is not when u are a rogue but mage or warrior.

[KillaSkillz]

At least mage and rogue have ranged attacks. Must be nice.

[AtariX]

At least mage and rogue have ranged attacks. Must be nice.

Throwing axe dude...

[ikavli]

I hope they nerf warriors and rouges soon!! I have good gear and I chased a warrior over the map two laps spamming spells on him..he totally played with me..turned around and 1shotted me

[GoodSyntax]

Axe Throw seems to be a 100% stun against my Rogue.

Stuns are a critical tactic to effective PvP - especially when you are with a poorly coordinated group.

In many of my CTF PUGs, the group just scatters, while the opposing group stays together and has some strategy. Sometimes, an opposing group will stage 2-3 players at the entrance of the flag room - and if your group is no well coordinated, anyone trying to run that gauntlet will die. Other times, I have seen teams break into two groups, one is a search and destroy group, the other is a flag carrier and escort group.

Unlike PvE, where you just mash skills and auto, PvP requires tactics and cooperative team play.

[xdalex]

If mages can't stun then they mine as well not even try to PVP or should be forbidden to PVP.
It's like saying warrior shouldn't have sky smash or rouges shouldn't have aimed shot
So it goes hand and hand

[GoodSyntax]

I hope they nerf warriors and rouges soon!! I have good gear and I chased a warrior over the map two laps spamming spells on him..he totally played with me..turned around and 1shotted me

I'm assuming that you are a mage. Honestly, mages are one of the more devastating classes in PvP - tough to play, but immense damage potential and the highest DPS in game.

Warriors, especially those geared for tanking, are punching bags - they absorb incredible damage. You have to take advantage of your ranged attacks to survive. Use attacks that stun or knock down, follow with charged skills then another stun. Rinse and repeat. This tactic only works if you can pick off a single warrior, get a group together and you are in trouble.

If you are with a pack, let the warriors engage. When the opponents auto targeting picks up the warrior, you can rush in and nuke, then break off while your skills cool-down.

Also, be aware of where the health packs are, engage in combat near one of these health packs.

I was dueling with an end-game warrior (who knew how to handle his class) and kept hitting him with Aimed Shots. He trudged over to an alcove with a health pack and even after 6-7 charged aimed shots (with Nox Bolts and auto attacks mixed in), he still did not go down because he used the terrain effectively. Another cute tactic I've seen is for warriors to stand around a corner. Then when rogues/mages get close (but still around the corner), a Skyward Smash allows them to jump over the wall around the corner, allowing them to get the first attack in, and often stunning me.

Each class has strengths and weaknesses. Use your class effectively because I think that PvP is very well balanced at the moment.

[Arsies]

Each class has strengths and weaknesses. Use your class effectively because I think that PvP is very well balanced at the moment.

That's the point. And no one is believing those who claim the current Classes as they are as balanced.

Great to read that someone mentioned at least one of all those tactics people should use to be better at pvp.

It's all about knowing how to... Just could repeat this again and again (and I'm by far not a pro in pvp).

[GoodSyntax]

Honestly, there are two things that I would like to see introduced:

1) Allow the Mage to shield up without the need for charging
2) Figure out some way to stop a group of warriors from buffing each other out, making the entire group invincible for long stretches.

Otherwise, as I said earlier, PvP is very well balanced.

[BodMaster]

Not sure what you Mage are doing wrong as I haven't tested mine in PvP yet. However just like there are skillful Warriors/Rogues, we went up against a beast of a Mage (Forgot name atm) 1v1 defeated, 2v2 defeated, 3v2 defeated, seriously was a beast most deaths I've had from a Mage period.

All I know they had Demonlord gear and a Rifle, but Shield up, stunned and then a skill that put me into the red zone so others could finish me off was crazy. (Mostly hidden behind the group of Good Warriors but even when they were solo they put up a very good fight)

Anyway all I'm saying is there are Mage out there that know how to play their class to their greatest advantage and it surely works, up against any class including Rogue. Some may have said OP due to the fight they put up, I'm going with a hell of a good player, and they exist.

[GoodSyntax]

Damn out of rep - I totally agree Bod!