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    Not happy about this. I don't have pets on my twinks because we never needed them. At least let us stash pets if this is going to stay, buying 5 malisons isn't going to be fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matutd View Post
    Not happy about this. I don't have pets on my twinks because we never needed them. At least let us stash pets if this is going to stay, buying 5 malisons isn't going to be fun
    Imagine you have a lv10 twink and a lv 20 malison

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    Quote Originally Posted by quaziest View Post
    Imagine you have a lv10 twink and a lv 20 malison
    That won't happen. Pets only level up to the same level as their master.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samhayne:969351
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    I could tolerate it if pets buffs/arcane only the auto att is unfair cause the pet itself cannot be killed/stun/subdued
    If you don't like the pet, kill the owner of it.
    Ok got me sam. You win
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    Is my pet supposed to lose energy while in pvp

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBedtBird View Post
    Is my pet supposed to lose energy while in pvp
    If you mean that it loses happiness and that you have to feed it, well yeah, that is how pets work.
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    Hi, Rouge they have higher critic,DEX,Damage,DPS than warriors, is like rouge are warriors. I dont know why rouge should have all higher stats than warriors, only warriors have slightly higher HP which higher DEX of rouge can be same as higher HP, so in my point of view rouges are warrior with high critic,DEX,DAMAGE,DPS.
    I still dont understand why warriors should have lower damage and DPS than rouges, rouges should only have high critic and DEX...

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    I think that each character has a stat limit for the pvp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBedtBird View Post
    Is my pet supposed to lose energy while in pvp
    I think you never had pet before lol

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    Ok thanks(:

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    Well, I played for a little while, if you can even call it that. I spent more time in the spawn room than anywhere else.

    It went like this:

    1) run from spawn room to big fight happening in middle

    2) die instantly

    3) run from spawn room to big fight happening in middle

    4) die instantly

    5) repeat 1-4

    I didn't get a single kill. The warriors basically stand in the middle in a big group and just do their windmill and when I get near I just die in a hit or two. Their range is longer than mine, so I can't attack from range. And now with the pets clogging the middle the big fights just look like a big mess of players and pets swinging and it's not even possible to see what's going on. I think everyone just spams their skill buttons and then when it's over the sorcerers and rogues are dead and the warriors are still there.


    I think in a 1-on-1 battle pets would be nice. In 5-on-5 it's just too much and impossible to see what's going on. It's like fighting the red dragon in PL. Just tons of mobs spinning and nothing can be done but spam your skills and hope you are standing in the end. Might as well add smoke to the room because you can't see what's happening anyway,

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    I can't say I like pets. It is kind of messy. However, if they are here to stay I kindly ask your comment on:
    - if pets are loosing their happines (because that is how pets work) why they don't get experience in PvP (that is also how pets work)
    - are you considering balancing of pet's abilities in future? It seems perfectly logical because you are balancing player's class & skills. If not, then I propose to give up of balancing alltogether and leave same skills abilities as in PvE. Maybe separate arena with that kind of PvP setup?
    I guess it is not hard to guess that I am sorcerer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    Well, I played for a little while, if you can even call it that. I spent more time in the spawn room than anywhere else.

    It went like this:

    1) run from spawn room to big fight happening in middle

    2) die instantly

    3) run from spawn room to big fight happening in middle

    4) die instantly

    5) repeat 1-4

    I didn't get a single kill. The warriors basically stand in the middle in a big group and just do their windmill and when I get near I just die in a hit or two. Their range is longer than mine, so I can't attack from range. And now with the pets clogging the middle the big fights just look like a big mess of players and pets swinging and it's not even possible to see what's going on. I think everyone just spams their skill buttons and then when it's over the sorcerers and rogues are dead and the warriors are still there.


    I think in a 1-on-1 battle pets would be nice. In 5-on-5 it's just too much and impossible to see what's going on. It's like fighting the red dragon in PL. Just tons of mobs spinning and nothing can be done but spam your skills and hope you are standing in the end. Might as well add smoke to the room because you can't see what's happening anyway,
    Energiz you die instantly because Rouge they have higher critics and damage and DPS , thats the reason, even i die but I never blame STS for my deaths, I only sugget that warriors should have better Damage than rouge.

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    Have to agree with Energizeric, although I am a warrior myself.

    I do not want to make it sound like I am a sore loser, but my K/D ratio was 5:1 in this week until this update, after that it is 1:5.

    First of all there are too many variables during a battle now, which means less skill.

    Second of all, as a warrior I usually jumped into battle first. Now with my pet strolling behind and enemy group with their pets lining up, my usually heroic move seems like suicide now..

    Last but not least, with all those flying pixels in the middle of my screen, I started to feel dizziness and wanted to throw up within 5 seconds after joining a group fight.

    My opinion is, they should at least open two PVP rooms for pet and without pet, even just for testing purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uicheusa View Post
    Have to agree with Energizeric, although I am a warrior myself.

    I do not want to make it sound like I am a sore loser, but my K/D ratio was 5:1 in this week until this update, after that it is 1:5.

    First of all there are too many variables during a battle now, which means less skill.

    Second of all, as a warrior I usually jumped into battle first. Now with my pet strolling behind and enemy group with their pets lining up, my usually heroic move seems like suicide now..

    Last but not least, with all those flying pixels in the middle of my screen, I started to feel dizziness and wanted to throw up within 5 seconds after joining a group fight.

    My opinion is, they should at least open two PVP rooms for pet and without pet, even just for testing purpose.
    I think the system is just fine and STS should have made this long time before, from starting of PVP in AL.

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    I'm having a positive experience with pets.
    I actually had some warriors try to disengage from me mid fight. 1v1 of course.
    Warriors are still tough to beat, but they seem to respect my mage now. Instead of thinking of me as a free kill, they do think twice before engaging alone.
    I still have to play more to get a better feel, but so far its better. And gotta test all the other pets too. I'm a beast master too so there's a lot I still have to experiment with.

    I also had respec and took more of a pure PvP build, so I did sacrifice a lot of nice PvE perks to be more successful.
    Mages do need that power up, just to be able to off balance a warriors heal.

    But its still silly, that winning most games really is just a matter of who has the most warriors.

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    hi. Sam. firstly thx for the work done in pvp for adding the pets. i know there were lots of player asked to add the pet back to pvp. and as we can see STS do their best to listen to the players as before.

    There is my opinio n new pvp. After adding the pets. its far too early to discussing class balancing. with the pets there r too many variable in a fight.

    First.Its too messy. with pet auto attack. u simply just cant see whats going on. I played all my three class char in pvp after update. first feeling is whatever class u use u die faster then before. Mage and Rogue r the worst. I dont know was i dead from one hit or two hit.or a hit from pet. or something else.

    Secondly. Mage r the worst after update. even with colton i still cant kill anyone. becouse the low arm and health. it just too much to take for mage by adding the pets . Rogue still can get kills becouse their crit and aimed shot. but as mage die too fast.

    ATM worrior has the most beneficial from update becouse their high aromr high health and incredable good heal skill.

    Its not a skill fight any more. even feels its not a fight. i lost my way in pvp. im sry.

    Thirdly .

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    Sam:

    Just a thought, but it seems most of the comments agree that the pets auto attacking and just being there seems to make everything too crowded and hard to see, and also makes everyone die much quicker. So I have an idea that I think maybe most would agree with (I guess we will find out)....

    How about the following solution:

    1) Pets remain in use for PvP, but only for the happiness bonus. So the happiness bonus adds to your stats, but nothing else about the pet matters.

    2) Pets do not physically appear in PvP. You get the stat boost from the happiness bonus for whatever pet you have equipped, but nobody sees the pet. That way pets don't clutter the hallways and make it look too crowded during a battle.

    3) Pets don't attack and you cannot use their arcane ability during PvP.

    4) Pets do not need to be fed during PvP as they are not really being fully used.

    5) You cannot change your pet during a PvP battle. You can however change while in the spawn room before the battle starts (when the gate is still up). This way folks can't change pets on the go, i.e. change to shiloh right before picking up the flag so you are faster to run it back -- this would just get crazy.

    This will allow us to choose pets for PvP just based on the happiness bonus. So you will be able to get an armor bonus with some pets, INT DEX or STR bonus with others, some will give damage bonus, and some give speed bonus which will help you run with the flag. So this gives us the opportunity to get good use out of different pets based on our fighting style and situation. If I'm looking to get lots of kills, I can use a pet with a good damage happiness bonus. If a rogue is running out of mana often, they can use a pet with a good mana regen happiness bonus. And if I'm looking to farm flags, I can equip a pet with a good speed happiness bonus.

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    I enjoy using the pets arcane ability, as it does open up new options.

    The only thing that should be added is a pet recall button. To call a pet back to your side if it wanders too far away.

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    I feel the same about pet clutter. For 1 vs 1, maybe 2 vs 2, pets add an extra dimension of play, I think as someone else stated similar to a 5th skill. But once you get in to mobs of 3-5 vs 3-5 plus their pets you can't see anything. As Energ said above its almost like you just throw yourself in and hope for the best. You can't see what skills others are using or where they are moving so it does on a base level reduce some battles to pure button mashing. Some might argue that you dont have to throw yourself into the melee, but even if attacking from a range it would be better to see what you are targeting instead of just hoping for the best. I think the suggestion to add the pet bonus but remove the pet itself from the game is a good solution to the clutter for a 5 v 5 game. Another possible solution might be to reduce the number of players allowed in games with pets. Perhaps a 2 v 2 pvp or maybe a 3 v 3 pvp player limit and you'd probably be able to see better, use some strategy and still get pet action.

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