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    Quote Originally Posted by D-: View Post
    I can kill a warrior very easily at 16...
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    I can kill a warrior very easily at 16...
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    With Horton I usually hit 1.5-2k... Probably 8/10 times.

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    I dont understand how you can not die against rouges. i have berserk of fitness lvl 20 and a mighty jugg of will lvl 21 and when they see me i go bye bye everytime so plz explain how to kill and it would be real nice to see you do it ingame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoograr View Post
    I dont understand how you can not die against rouges. i have berserk of fitness lvl 20 and a mighty jugg of will lvl 21 and when they see me i go bye bye everytime so plz explain how to kill and it would be real nice to see you do it ingame.
    "i dont understand how you cannot die against rogues" i dont understand how can you not kill one....

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    I did not get that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadStar:972603
    You mean Warriors kill you in no time. Rogues? Their ok, I mean, many of them are good, and know how to use them but they still a need more Mana or a mini buff. Warriors? You don't need any skills or strategy, all you do is your windmill and kill everyone in no time without being hurt (OP). Oh, sorcerers? Meh, their the rats. They don't serve a purpose. I mean, we die, that's all we do. Oh yes.
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    Do not know about you but my rogue is very good, although there are warriors that are extremely hard and not using all my hablidades will win him (Of course I'm out of mana), and I see them after throwing thousands of critics and countless arrows they continue as if nothing is really frustrating because I'm out of mana, low HP and are also always more behind me, I must say that my armor is 704, 2100 and 645 HP and mana.

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    Warriors cannot hang with rouge anymore 1 vs 1...ive seen them crit me in two seconds. .I have all best gear, 3200 health 919 armor. .. but there are done tanks with 850 armor that never did...I got hit today and a rouge took out two tanks in three seconds. ..both with end game gear. Granted most warriors don't use juggernaunt. .. which could easily help... but actually be in s game watch the top rouges. They own
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    its all about strategy and timing, if u do it right, rogues are dead easy, if u messed up once ..... consider urself dead because of their critical shots, or if you get stunned by one , u cant move for 2 seconds, ya ur dead LOL
    but then it goes both ways.. a warrior stun a rogue, theyre instant death too. .
    having a good gear is just one factor, strategy and timing is the biggest factor, but yes their 2k-3k criticals.. aint fair
    but thats really all they got to survive.. is to kill u fast, but then u have to kill em fast too LOL
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    I never said i cant kill but if i do not stun im dead even if i get stund or not so that means that most of the time i will die and even if i stun i dont kill everytime cuz their 700 armor and 25% dodge chance so imo thats unfair. almost as good armor much better dodge and inf damage seams way to broken in my eyes but if you want to go 1 vs 1 against a rouge and let me watch so i can see what your doing plz add me ingame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoograr View Post
    I never said i cant kill but if i do not stun im dead even if i get stund or not so that means that most of the time i will die and even if i stun i dont kill everytime cuz their 700 armor and 25% dodge chance so imo thats unfair. almost as good armor much better dodge and inf damage seams way to broken in my eyes but if you want to go 1 vs 1 against a rouge and let me watch so i can see what your doing plz add me ingame.
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    I'm a rogue with a 279.1 dps..but I hate those warriors with their whirlwind skill.. I've got a hard time of killing..I'm using malison and horton.. but I'm lacking of crits!! I've thrown multiple aimed shots and nox bolts but with their healing skills. They can regenerate easily..

    Maybe my set is not good enough
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    Agile ranger leather of security
    Demonlord leather of will(dex type)
    Then dex str +3.0 damage accesories.

    For rogues, how did you in just 2-4 arrows inorder to kill them??

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    Quote Originally Posted by telstra View Post
    I'm a rogue with a 279.1 dps..but I hate those warriors with their whirlwind skill.. I've got a hard time of killing..I'm using malison and horton.. but I'm lacking of crits!! I've thrown multiple aimed shots and nox bolts but with their healing skills. They can regenerate easily..

    Maybe my set is not good enough
    Depraved blade of brutality/agile lifethief of potency
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    Then dex str +3.0 damage accesories.

    For rogues, how did you in just 2-4 arrows inorder to kill them??
    I've opted for a high crit, high dmg build (Watchers bow obviously). I've got 150 DMG and, with Malison, Meep-Moop and other crit oriented pets can get about to 29-30% crit.

    With such a high crit, I can stack to get to 50% after a couple of charged shots. From there it's just point and shoot. The problem is that I don't have 800 armor or 1600 health (more like 700 armor with 1100 health). I can't survive being targeted, so I tend to use my range as much as possible and flee when I see two or more Warriors trying to hunt me down. I also have the slight problem of blowing through my mana pool rather quickly.

    1v1 I can take down many Warriors, the exception being top geared Warriors who know how and when to use HoR. Against top Warriors I may have a 50/50 chance, but ranging against mobs when I have a Warrior to engage and get aggro, this high DMG/Crit build is wonderful.

    Like others have said, teamwork and tactics make all the difference. If your group just scatters, trying to 1v1, you might as well just leave and find another game. If you try to be the first into a fight and don't shadow Warriors to prevent auto-targeting, you are just a mound of warm meat waiting to be butchered.

    Rogues are a tactical class. Don't try to tank, don't try to engage groups, don't always go 1v1 - your strength is similar to Thief classes in other MMOs, backstab for max DMG and leave. Compress your skills into a quick 1,2,3 burst and disengage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoograr View Post
    I'm a warrior and i have over 860 armor and when a rouge comes near me im dead. they have 700 armor and like a 25% chance to dodge so i have no way of killing them. so imo rouges needs to be fixed.
    Pretty much at every level I PVP at... I fight warriors that I cannot kill. So... I dunno. In fact. Most warriors I fight at end game are that way. I can hit them with numerous aimed shots and attacks and they won't go down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aedenos View Post
    Pretty much at every level I PVP at... I fight warriors that I cannot kill. So... I dunno. In fact. Most warriors I fight at end game are that way. I can hit them with numerous aimed shots and attacks and they won't go down.
    I'm in the same boat. I use both bow and blades. And I PvP at lvls6,10,16,and 21.... Warriors are super strong if they know what they are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvaria View Post
    I can do that in chrome as well.
    This way you can crit kiting more than 1 warrior since pet cooldown isn't very long.

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