remove ctf LB change to another one

[just comment]

Recently, many people complain about farm or egoist farming with friend to earn kill and flag at ctf..
And so do i, i also feel the same when i enter a room with top flag people ...
I don't blame them for doing so, because it's very human for top lb people to do so..
So i think,it will be better if ctf lb and achievement is removed...
So no one do this anymore, and they do pvp for fun...
And make this ctf room hostable by player,player can set password for the room, so when we want to play with friends, we won't have difficulties..
And if player want to play in public, no need to set password (make it like dota i mean)
That will bring so much fun to this game...

And for the exchange for removing ctf lb...
You can add boss kill lb and achievement...
You can add spesific boss kill lb and achievement (ex : 1, 5, 10, 50, 100, etc stahl kill, bael kill, jarl kill, etc)
And add more specific mob kill (100, 500, 1000, etc skeleton kill, mage kill, etc)
So they won't get bored by farming over the same monster that will boost their pve kill in fastest way...
Or another creative idea for lb and achievement...

So if someone going to farm it, no one is getting annoyed by them, because they will make a toon for party then do solo in a room and annoy no one...
And i'm sure they won't farm at public, because monster getting stronger when you have more people in the same room and of course you have to share the kill with other..
Giving lb and achievement that involved public people like ctf or maybe future update will result on losing fun for player who want to have fun playing game and doesn't bother with lb and achievement..

So better remove all lb and achievement that must be done public room pls :-)

This is just my opinion, i mean no offense to anyone, hope my opinion will be useful for everyone :-)

[Vystirch]

Meh, I think the current system is fine.

[hippl]

Current system would be fine in FFA. Cause now it's FFA in CTF-trousers.
Remove current ctf LB for season 3. Please.

[Cero]

Ctf and your boss LB suggestion are the same they can be both farmed. Anything that goes with kills can be farmed in this game.


edit: i just made a glance on your post, Kill LB = Farm LB

[CaptainPoo]

I agree remove the ctf leaderboard.There is no point of putting it there if what most people do is cheating.I dont say all but most of them do farm kill.There is once a twink who say to me like this " hey you,im here first to kill farm".I dont have any will to kill farm but I steal some of his kill when war.So then when he eager he say " fine,you win"
Then he out but return choosing the other side of the team because I know there are 1 of his party member.He keep chasing me and try to kill me but failed.Then he called his guild members ( twinks guild ) to join LOL.What my point is some people with obsesion to be on leaderboard,take this game too serious.They even say bad words to me which I believe has happened to some of you.Come on people,I believe you know its a game which made to bring fun to us.There is really no need to do such things.With that much of kills you get from kill farm,you still not as good as the one who really skilled on pvp.So once again REMOVE THE CTF LEADERBOARD

[just comment]

Maybe current system is fine..
But with hostable room, we can do our own community tournament...
So much fun for us..
And dev also can make their weekly, monthly, etc tournament that require plat for registeration (income is a must for keeping on developing this great game)..
And they can give special prize for the tournament winner, and announce the winner to public..
Almost the same with lb, but more pointful than pointless farm and egoist player competition inside ctf now..

[just comment]

Ctf and your boss LB suggestion are the same they can be both farmed. Anything that goes with kills can be farmed in this game.


edit: i just made a glance on your post, Kill LB = Farm LB

So if someone going to farm it, no one is getting annoyed by them, because they will make a toon for party then do solo in a room and annoy no one...
And i'm sure they won't farm at public, because monster getting stronger when you have more people in the same room and of course you have to share the kill with other..
Giving lb and achievement that involved public people like ctf or maybe future update will result on losing fun for player who want to have fun playing game and doesn't bother with lb and achievement..

farming happened everywhere, but at least no more annoying farm

[Energizeric]

I like the Kills leaderboard, but I think the flag leaderboard should just not go as high. In PL the highest flag achievement is for 10 flags. Yet in CTF we got 10k flags? Who can possibly get that many without farming?

The kills will happen for most players over a few months if they play CTF regularly. But the flags is just crazy. I'd suggest the highest achievement for flags should be maybe 1k at most.

[Lady_Pebbles]

I actually agree w/the hosting matches part but not the removal of the LB and here is why:

There two different PvP bases; those that want to farm and those that actually want to play the game the way its supposed to be played without caring about the LB. Allowing matches to be hosted will allow the PvP LBers to farm the same way PvE LBers farm; in locked maps. In PvE all you gotta do is party with someone and you can enter seperate maps to farm in to be solo. In PvP they have to either be in random rooms with friends replaying on the same teams constantly, use macros to cheat, and or exploite the bug where they join lower lvl matches to farm....

So if they allow us to host matches, we can all PvP the way WE want to PvP without anyone else making it unenjoyable.

[fatcharlie]

I like the Kills leaderboard, but I think the flag leaderboard should just not go as high. In PL the highest flag achievement is for 10 flags. Yet in CTF we got 10k flags? Who can possibly get that many without farming?

The kills will happen for most players over a few months if they play CTF regularly. But the flags is just crazy. I'd suggest the highest achievement for flags should be maybe 1k at most.

Yeah, I agree, flag achievement is hard to reach...especially when you're playing a mage.

[just comment]

I actually agree w/the hosting matches part but not the removal of the LB and here is why:

There two different PvP bases; those that want to farm and those that actually want to play the game the way its supposed to be played without caring about the LB. Allowing matches to be hosted will allow the PvP LBers to farm the same way PvE LBers farm; in locked maps. In PvE all you gotta do is party with someone and you can enter seperate maps to farm in to be solo. In PvP they have to either be in random rooms with friends replaying on the same teams constantly, use macros to cheat, and or exploite the bug where they join lower lvl matches to farm....

So if they allow us to host matches, we can all PvP the way WE want to PvP without anyone else making it unenjoyable.

If the match can be hosted, match lb is about farm, that's why better remove match lb....

[Genuinous]

I am still not willing to accept that farming kills or flags in pvp is allowed. It shouldn't be. Some players work really hard to get kills and flags in legit ways, fighting with others, while someone can just decide to farm alts? And they should then be recognized as the best and awarded special flags? Isn't that messed up a bit?

Yes yes you may say that ppl do it in pve. However look at the difference.
in pve everybody is killing the same mobs
in pvp some players are killing players and some are killing alts

Can you compare the two? No! Getting to the lb and winning it by competing with real players should not be overlooked because someone decides to take the easy way. It is just not fair.

Also look at how Player X just rocked up 5k flags out of nowhere! By clearly just farming it. Should this player now receive top honours for farming flags too? I don't think so...

[just comment]

I am still not willing to accept that farming kills or flags in pvp is allowed. It shouldn't be. Some players work really hard to get kills and flags in legit ways, fighting with others, while someone can just decide to farm alts? And they should then be recognized as the best and awarded special flags? Isn't that messed up a bit?

Yes yes you may say that ppl do it in pve. However look at the difference.
in pve everybody is killing the same mobs
in pvp some players are killing players and some are killing alts

Can you compare the two? No! Getting to the lb and winning it by competing with real players should not be overlooked because someone decides to take the easy way. It is just not fair.

Also look at how Player X just rocked up 5k flags out of nowhere! By clearly just farming it. Should this player now receive top honours for farming flags too? I don't think so...

I think this is out of the topic gen :-)
It's not about farmer or egoist lb people, but it is about better pvp for all AL player :-)

[inkredible]

eh its fine but u know what.. the password, private pvp is actually a great idea

[Genuinous]

I think this is out of the topic gen :-)
It's not about farmer or egoist lb people, but it is about better pvp for all AL player :-)

Hmmm... I see what you mean I was too annoyed and your block of text too thick to read through :P

none the less I stand by what I wrote, because I think that lb is great and it should still be a part of the game. I pvp a lot (almost exclusively pvp since it came out) and I do want to see how i'm doing. I want to compare myself to others, etc etc. Many reasons to say for the lb.

Also private hosted rooms would be great, but this does not have to result in lb being removed! All you need to do is not count private hosted kills and flags into your stats. Since it's with friends and for fun, it would not show up on your character sheet.

But farming is still annoying and wrong imo, and thus should be handled (even though sts said they dont do anything against it)...

[just comment]

Hmmm... I see what you mean I was too annoyed and your block of text too thick to read through :P

none the less I stand by what I wrote, because I think that lb is great and it should still be a part of the game. I pvp a lot (almost exclusively pvp since it came out) and I do want to see how i'm doing. I want to compare myself to others, etc etc. Many reasons to say for the lb.

Also private hosted rooms would be great, but this does not have to result in lb being removed! All you need to do is not count private hosted kills and flags into your stats. Since it's with friends and for fun, it would not show up on your character sheet.

But farming is still annoying and wrong imo, and thus should be handled (even though sts said they dont do anything against it)...

Lb + hosted room = 100% farming
That's why if you read all my post, i also suggest for official tournament..
So almost the same with lb, but in different way..
Your effort can be officially posted too :-)

[just comment]

Of course if you win the tournament :-)

[Lady_Pebbles]

They are already farming 100% of the time is what Im trying to say. So let them continue their lil LB competition stuff in hosted rooms (with or without the LB they'll still be players like that) while the rest of us can play CtF the way it was meant to be played.

[Madstar]

I agree with Ene.

10k flag achievement is ridiculous.

Especially for flag farmers, they'll have all the advantage for Achievement Points leaderboards.

Remove CTF season 3 please.

[pilon]

remove CTF LB