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    Default How to get higher base dodge?

    I have 15base dodge but i would like to get it up. I heard someone had 19 base dodge..
    Currently doing 18 bird pvp

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    You got a ring, face, and pure dexterity?

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    adding to str gives more dodge i believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oskitopee View Post
    adding to str gives more dodge i believe.
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-: View Post
    Table of Contents:
    I - Gear
    II - Attributes
    III - Skills
    IV - Combos
    V - Things to remember!


    Well I hope you guys enjoy, give me some feedback too!

    I. Gear:

    -L5 Armsman
    *(I personally use Forged) works the best for dodge, However I dont suggest getting 15 Armsman, since 5 and 15 have the same Dodge%.

    -L10 Snipers Helmet, and shield.
    *Can be found in "Dex 4-Pack". Or what I used was Conquerers. It gives more dodge. Find this under "L10 STR 4-Pack". If you have Snipers stay with it. Either is fine.

    -18 Forgotten Bow/15 Toyman.
    *If you want to be a super noob then use FB, I use L15 Toyman.

    II. Attributes:

    STR-22 (For 5 Armsman.)

    INT- 5 (For 15 Toyman if you are going to use it.)

    DEX- All remaining points here.

    III. Skills:

    -6 Evade
    *A Birds best friend, max this out, because Evade is MANDITORY for a birds survival.

    -3 Focus
    *Just a good buff to get hit% up.

    -4 Break
    *Almost all birds use 5 break, but since break STACKS, there is NO NEED for 5. 4 is FINE.

    -1 Shatter
    *To start "Cruel Blast" Combo.

    -1 Blast
    *To end "Cruel Blast" Combo.

    -1 Root
    *Mostly for Debuffs on Birds, We'll get into this in combos.

    -1 Repulse
    *To kite a bears Stomp/Hellscream, and if you know your range very well, this would be good to get 22 bears out of range for beckon.

    IV. Combos:

    -For Bears: Focus, Evade, Repulse, Break, Shatter, Blast, Root.
    *Personally I like to start off with repulse, run in like you are going to nuke, then repulse and run back, If they miss you will have time to start your combo. Then root at the end so you can kite some more. If they dont miss and it stuns you, pray for dodge.

    -For Birds: Focus, Evade, Break, Shatter, Blast, Root, Repulse.
    *Honestly this combo is very easy... I just use Repulse at the end for more damage, I wouldnt suggest using Repulse if they are trying to kite. I also recommend trying to get your root on, if it dodges it is fine, but it would be better to hit with root because there is a secret dodge debuff that comes with it.

    -For Mages: Focus, Evade, Root, Break, Shatter, Blast, Repulse.
    *The reason we start off with Root is to stop the mage from kiting, they will heal to get out of it, and after they WASTED a heal, you combo. I wouldnt use Repulse unless you are close enough for another root. After they wasted the heal they usually die within the first combo.
    ** Vs Mages, SAVE BLAST if they are L18 or up. When they MS, Blast, then start the combo given above.
    *** Dont fight L22 Mages, they will kill you in an instant due to all the buffs.

    V. Things to remember!
    -Know your range (About 8m for Shatter and 12m for Repulse).
    -Know when to start your combo and when to kite.
    -Know a stomps range for 10. 12, 15, and 17 bears.
    -Know Beckons range for 22 Bears. (If you face them ALWAYS repulse at 12).
    -Know that dodge CAN be luck, so don't be amazed if you come out full after a fight and say "gf nub I'm full". Don't be disrespectful.


    Level 19 Bird Guide!

    Table of Contents
    I - Build
    II - Skills


    This was a request by ethan123, so I'll make it. This is almost the same exact thing to 18 birds, so this will be shorter...

    There are THREE things you can do at 19. Put break to 5, 2 to Root, or focus to 4.

    (Creds to BROSAUCE for helping with 2 Root build!)

    I. Build

    Well the build is quite simple, there isn't really a wrong answer in my eyes.

    Increasing STR - I would personally do this for more dodge %. But you also have other choices.

    Increasing DEX - Basically just for more damage and such.

    Increasing INT - Just for more Mana Regen since most birds have VERY LOW mana regen.

    Keep in mind these can only be increased 5 points. So you can increase all 5 to STR, DEX, or INT. Or split them up. Although it would not make much of a difference. If you were to split them up I would try 3 STR, 2 DEX.

    Skills

    -3 to 4 Focus
    *I would use this still since break stacks, but this is your choice. 4 Focus is better from my experience.

    -4 to 5 Break
    *Another good place to put your 1 point. I still like 4 break because it STACKS. It doesn't make much sense to me that people would put 5 instead of 4. Unless if they know it doesn't stack. Based on personal experience, I'd go 4 Focus. But this is your choice! don't be afraid to choose whichever you prefer.

    -1 to 2 Root
    *I already tried this out and it's a very good build! Due to the Forg Bows and all OP items, Dodge Hax Birds are basically the hardest you'll face. Mostly because bears get eaten up by repulse, and mages, just lol.
    **Anyways as said above, "Dodge Birds are the thing you'll be facing the most." So since everyone thinks they are some pro now for using a Forgotten Bow and owning (POSTULATE) breaking down dodge would be the best! What you'd do for this is I WOULD start off with root when 1v1. The reason behind this is because you can combo knowing the birds dodge is down! Also, if you miss, pray the bird misses his/her root, or you're screwed.

    21 RUSHING Bird Guide!

    Table of Contents
    I - Build
    II - Equipment
    III - Skills
    IV - Combos



    I - Build


    Full Dex!


    II - Equipment

    Armor:
    If you're a kind of poor guy, then use 10 Snipers Helm, and Armor.
    This seems odd, I know, but it works! (in my past experience)
    If you are a kind of rich - Rich guy, then go with L21 Sandstone Cave Helm and Armor!
    (I use onyx because it looks PRO! Any set works though.)

    Weapons:
    L21 Forg Bow! - If you're the super noob, go with this weapon!

    L20 Halloween Items! - Some of these items are Ridiculously OP. I'd use Pumpkin Chunker for kiting abilities!

    Rings:

    I'd use a L20 DAMAGE Ring! Or dodge, or both!

    III - Skills

    Remember that this is a RUSHING build, so it may seem odd to some.

    6 Blast - Super Combo Damage!
    1 Shatter - To start your Super Combo Damage!
    6 Focus - For MAX Hit% and Damage Output!
    1 Repulse - To eat bears up with HS and Stomp!
    1 Root - To debuff those DODGE HAXXIN BIRDS!
    3 Evade - For Dodge %! (Most rushing birds just need the max damage output.)
    2 Blinding - Always start out with this! You'll find the debuff can make them miss a lot!

    IV - Combos

    For Bears - Focus, Evade, Blinding, Repulse, Break, Shatter, Blast, Root.
    *Blinding Tip - It would be a shame if a bear missed the Stomp/HS/Beckon because of your debuff!
    *Repulse Tip - To eat up the bears Stomp/HS/Beckon!

    For Birds - Focus, Evade, Blinding, Root, Break, Shatter, Blast, Repulse.
    *Blinding Tip - They could miss Root, which could save your life!
    *Repulse Tip - If you think they are trying to kite, don't use it, it'll knock them back further to kite you more!

    For Mages - Focus, Evade, Blinding, Root, Break, Shatter, Blast, Repulse
    *Blinding Tip - A Mage might just miss the Drain if you use this!
    *Root Tip - Freeze them so they waste a heal getting out of it then nuke!
    *Blast Tip - Some mages are late MSers, keep this in mind and hold onto blast until they MS to pop it!







    Good luck out there!
    ~Lost (Vohcab)
    Here ya go.

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    I tried to mess around with str and dex but it didn't do much

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    Hey professor

    1> learn to get practical dodge, it would be way much than base and your imagination.

    2> str attribute points doesn't give much dodge, but str gear do in general.

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    What do you mean by practical dodge?

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    13m. Max skill range of all classes is 12m. If your pro you woild know how to manoeuvre along 12-13m. Takes lots of practice. Lag ruins it too.

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    Thanks.. I'm just curious how someone would have 19 dodge at lvl16-17.. I really want high dodge lol

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    I tried messing with all dex but never does it come out to be 19 dodge

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    I was the 20 bird with 19 unbuffed dodge. Name was bloomin. Than sts had to nerf everything an ruin my bird. Gf. Sorry to revive an old thread. Just bored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReligionIsABarrier View Post
    I was the 20 bird with 19 unbuffed dodge. Name was bloomin. Than sts had to nerf everything an ruin my bird. Gf. Sorry to revive an old thread. Just bored.
    If one person can have 19 base dodge, than anyone can have 19 base dodge. It's not something that takes skill, you just need the right gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swaggron:1412053
    Quote Originally Posted by ReligionIsABarrier View Post
    I was the 20 bird with 19 unbuffed dodge. Name was bloomin. Than sts had to nerf everything an ruin my bird. Gf. Sorry to revive an old thread. Just bored.
    If one person can have 19 base dodge, than anyone can have 19 base dodge. It's not something that takes skill, you just need the right gear.
    Except for damage and armor because of founders... just sayin

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