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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodSyntax View Post
    Please, no more. Rogues were nerfed enough with the last update. No more nerfing of Rogues. If anything needs a nerf it is Warriors with their 18m attack range!
    18m </3

    Now I'm confused on which weapon to get. DBP 26 or ALP 21

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodSyntax View Post
    As a rough estimate, I would say that the uncharged auto-attack of LifeThief's is about 30% faster than the Depraved Blades, hence the better DPS value for the LifeThief.
    Both Agile Lifethief and Depraved Blades have the same attack speed
    DPS / Damage = Attacks per second
    1 / Attacks per second = attack speed
    1.8 attacks per second or .556 attack speed

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    I just bought that lv21 agile life thief of potency weapon and tested it out. Dmg and skill Dmg isn't that much different from heartseekers, but all I can say is WOW! What a huge difference in practice. My guess is there's something wrong, the difference in total Dmg output is simply too huge. The numbers don't match the real Dmg output at all IMO.

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    I did a little bit of math here in this thread:

    http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...fference/page2


    Although the numbers show that Debraved blades of Pot/Brut lvl 26 total damage is still higher than ALP lvl 21, everyone seems to say ALP is still better. Has anyone thoroughly compared these two weapons? Right now I'm leaning towards ALP, but I just want be abosulutely sure. Thank you.

    (This is coming from an Agi Heartseekers of Tactics user)

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    It's common knowledge that Lifethiefs are bugged and sometimes crit for over 600 damage (even at 21) making it the only weapon worth getting (even of the clever kind).

    Why it hasn't been fixed is as mind boggling as why the windmill glitch on warriors hasn't either.

    But yea, rogues enjoyed doing a lot more damage than intended for a long time now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodSyntax View Post
    Please, no more. Rogues were nerfed enough with the last update. No more nerfing of Rogues. If anything needs a nerf it is Warriors with their 18m attack range!
    Agreed with this cause now i cant kill in pvp -.- neither sorc or warrior both.. ive got good weapon and armors but still lack of damage now
    were all same now to the sorcerer.. and state like welcome to the world of sorcerer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heiki View Post
    It's common knowledge that Lifethiefs are bugged and sometimes crit for over 600 damage (even at 21) making it the only weapon worth getting (even of the clever kind).

    Why it hasn't been fixed is as mind boggling as why the windmill glitch on warriors hasn't either.

    But yea, rogues enjoyed doing a lot more damage than intended for a long time now.

    Ok. ALP it is then. lvl 21 only for now. I am nowhere near the price of ALP 25. :P

    Oh btw my guildmate said Nefarious Hooks are better (he has one). Well they are arcane weapons, so I guess that's understandable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lojack View Post
    I have a bug in on this, it should get more balanced in the future

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    This bug has already been reported many times since when the alp came out. Hope it will be corrected soon so we can trust the stats shown in our screen. Also it has much impact on trading prices alp going sky-high and higher rated weapons selling for peanuts at the moment.
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    For those unsure, it is any blade that says life thief (clever, mighty, agile). It can be of potency or force or whatever. As long as it says life thief. The damage spikes high is what the bug is on any attack. More noticeable if you just mash attack in a mob. The blades can be any level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovestriker View Post
    I did a little bit of math here in this thread:

    http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...fference/page2


    Although the numbers show that Debraved blades of Pot/Brut lvl 26 total damage is still higher than ALP lvl 21, everyone seems to say ALP is still better. Has anyone thoroughly compared these two weapons? Right now I'm leaning towards ALP, but I just want be abosulutely sure. Thank you.

    (This is coming from an Agi Heartseekers of Tactics user)
    As of right now, the alp are better.

    I don't remember the exact numbers but I will estimate. These are non-critical attacks.
    With L 25 Mighty Lifethief of Potency:
    damage: between 120-900

    With L 25 Depraved of Brutality
    damage: about 150

    With L 25 Agile Lifethief of Potency
    damage: about 140-920

    With L 21 Agile Lifethief of Potency
    damage: about 100-850

    Anything of lifethief also has AOE. The damage spikes and aoe help to kill mobs quickly in elite mode and kill/kill steal in PVP. What you see in the stats screen is not always the same as what you see on the game screen and vice versa. That's why sometimes people will call them out as bugs such as this case.

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    Why did you say it..........

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    I too have recently upgraded from 21 Agile Life to 25 Depraved Brutality and have been very disappointed with the outcome. They seem slow and sluggish compared to the Agiles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by euromikeym View Post
    I too have recently upgraded from 21 Agile Life to 25 Depraved Brutality and have been very disappointed with the outcome. They seem slow and sluggish compared to the Agiles.
    Maybe it's a wrong spelling..instead of depraved, it should be called deprived...lol
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    Use your lifethiefs while u can! Play with my friend and they just bought some depraved 26. And you know what? Lifethiefs hit way harder than any other weapon in the game regardless of level! I'm guessing that the depraved were functuining normally. If they're going to patch, it will definitely be decreasing the damage from the life thief line. Just for fun we bought other level 21 weapons and yes they were worse than the 26 depraved, but nothing beats life thief even at 21! Doesn't matter which kind u get!
    Last edited by Zanpakuto; 03-09-2013 at 11:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heiki View Post
    It's common knowledge that Lifethiefs are bugged and sometimes crit for over 600 damage (even at 21) making it the only weapon worth getting (even of the clever kind).

    Why it hasn't been fixed is as mind boggling as why the windmill glitch on warriors hasn't either.

    But yea, rogues enjoyed doing a lot more damage than intended for a long time now.
    We did find a math error on all life thief weapons, and it will be addressed in the next patch I believe.

    In regards to windmill I would keep your eyes on the forums, as we are working on some stuff related to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carapace View Post
    We did find a math error on all life thief weapons, and it will be addressed in the next patch I believe.

    In regards to windmill I would keep your eyes on the forums, as we are working on some stuff related to this.
    I see, guess it's getting nerfed. I do hope the new weapons would perform decent! Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carapace View Post
    We did find a math error on all life thief weapons, and it will be addressed in the next patch I believe.

    In regards to windmill I would keep your eyes on the forums, as we are working on some stuff related to this.
    would the new weopons have a buff? the rogue class already suffered a major nerf in dps recently and we are completely outclassed in close range by warriors in pvp? whats gonna be for us when you nerf our only decent weopon? would there be a major rogue dagger skill boost? hope so.

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    Nvm lol
    Last edited by Noblesse; 03-10-2013 at 03:03 AM.

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    You nerf alp, you reset time runs. Ofc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticalEagle View Post
    You nerf alp, you reset time runs. Ofc.
    I agree, timed runs should be reset. I bet the best times are ran with a couple of rogues using life thief weapons.


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