Depraved Blades vs Agile Lifethief... Something wrong

**porcello** · 03-05-2013, 06:55 AM

Hi! I've noticed that the Depraved Blades (Potency and Brutality) are doing less damage than other weapons...
An example...
Agile Lifethief of Force lvl 21 -> 89.6 dps
Depraved Blades of Brutality lvl 21 -> 97.7 dps
Anyway i'm doing a lot more damage, with normal attack, charged and critical, with the Agile Lifethief!
Other friends noticed the same problem on weapon lvl 25....
Now... it's our impression, a bug, or something i can't understand?

Thanx for your patience :-)

**yoho** · 03-05-2013, 07:52 AM

Concerning DPS output, even LvL 21 Agile Lifethiefs are better than all other lvl25-26 rogue weapons in the game.

**ishyrionek** · 03-05-2013, 08:19 AM

Yes, i heard about it in guild too. But dps isnt dmg. So maybe charging time of skills is shorter?

**elitewarrio** · 03-05-2013, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by yoho

Concerning DPS output, even LvL 21 Agile Lifethiefs are better than all other lvl25-26 rogue weapons in the game.

also of alp25?

**GoodSyntax** · 03-05-2013, 08:33 AM

Check the DMG stat between the two. Depraved Blades have much higher damage rating, but are simply slower than LifeThief's. As a rough estimate, I would say that the uncharged auto-attack of LifeThief's is about 30% faster than the Depraved Blades, hence the better DPS value for the LifeThief.

I know everyone is concerned about DPS, but DMG has a much greater impact on your skill damage. This is the main reason why you see so many Rogues with Bows in PvP. The Bow has a better base DMG stat than nearly any other weapon, so with top-line DMG stats an Aimed Shot will do more damage (especially if it crits).

**Limsi** · 03-05-2013, 08:34 AM

Comparing an elite lvl 25 weapon to that of which came out from a crate is a big no no.

**just comment** · 03-05-2013, 10:58 AM

i think the problem is on lifethief ..
as i know lifethief and heartseeker has the same stats, but they have different proc ..
but practically, lifethief will do far more higher dmg than heartseeker ..
i notice it since dead city expansion, first time i think it is bug ..
but sts never fix it, so i think sts intentionally put it to the game for some reason i don't even know ..
i guess it is because the game is very early and as dmg dealer rogue weapons are not good enough to do dmg on this early lvl ..
so they need to put secret weapon that can pump rogue dmg, so rogue will be balanced ..

**Lojack** · 03-05-2013, 12:14 PM

I have a bug in on this, it should get more balanced in the future

Thanks

**piskydps** · 03-05-2013, 01:13 PM

i have a rogue lvl 26 with 355 dps...with depraved...of potency.(lvl 26)
i'm an officer of the porcello's guild...and i think the same because i make more damage with agile lifethief...my critical damage with depraved is 180-200 whith agile lifethief of potency lvl 21 i make critical 600 or more...i have the same results in pvp...with agile lifethief of potecy i have a lot of one shot (kill a player with one shot) whit depraved i never have this...

**GoodSyntax** · 03-05-2013, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Lojack

I have a bug in on this, it should get more balanced in the future

Thanks

So sell them now! :-)

**auctioneerman** · 03-05-2013, 01:28 PM

Selling alp 25 for 1.9m
pm lucystrike

**porcello** · 03-05-2013, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by GoodSyntax

Check the DMG stat between the two. Depraved Blades have much higher damage rating, but are simply slower than LifeThief's.

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example:
+2.5 dmg
+4.4 dps

Anyway i really don't know why, talking in simple words, it takes more time to kill a mob with DB than AL, even DMG and DPS are higher on the DB...

**yoho** · 03-05-2013, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Lojack

I have a bug in on this, it should get more balanced in the future

Thanks

Balanced means less output from lifethiefs or more for depraved?

**blakadder** · 03-05-2013, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Lojack

I have a bug in on this, it should get more balanced in the future

Thanks

Do you have the bug on the windmill+cripple dealing more dmg than a rogue issue??? will that be also fixed?

**wvhills** · 03-05-2013, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Lojack

I have a bug in on this, it should get more balanced in the future

Thanks

So, first rogues had our stun nerfed, then we had our damage nerfed and now ur saying we're going to have our weapons nerfed? Smh.
I guess we should all just create warriors.

**yoho** · 03-05-2013, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by wvhills

So, first rogues had our stun nerfed, then we had our damage nerfed and now ur saying we're going to have our weapons nerfed? Smh.
I guess we should all just create warriors.

Balancing is not always nerfing, so let's hope new weapons for rogues come out, or existing ones, like depraved/slicing get some function (may be same damage output dynamics as lifethiefs)

**Zyphruss** · 03-05-2013, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Lojack

I have a bug in on this, it should get more balanced in the future

Thanks

Which is bugged, Agile lifethief or the Depraved Blades? I hope you fix the depraved lol! We need more damage.

**wvhills** · 03-05-2013, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by yoho

Balancing is not always nerfing, so let's hope new weapons for rogues come out, or existing ones, like depraved/slicing get some function (may be same damage output dynamics as lifethiefs)

ur right but it seems like they are working from the opinion that rogues do too much damage. I hope ur right but I bet there will be a nerf rather than a buff.

**GoodSyntax** · 03-05-2013, 07:29 PM

Isn't there another Depraved Blade (of Brutality I think) where the DMG is substantially higher?

Either way, I stand corrected, I though that ALP had higher DPS, but DB had higher DMG.

**GoodSyntax** · 03-05-2013, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by wvhills

ur right but it seems like they are working from the opinion that rogues do too much damage. I hope ur right but I bet there will be a nerf rather than a buff.

Please, no more. Rogues were nerfed enough with the last update. No more nerfing of Rogues. If anything needs a nerf it is Warriors with their 18m attack range!