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    On my own mage, I dropped Lifegiver once the free respect came. Its not very useful when you can die from one hit on an elite map. I replaced it with Arcane Shield. And I am liking it way better. The issue is mobs with range attacks like bows or guns. I feel like I am frequently targeted by them and can die easily. Also I know some mages aren't even carrying any defensive skills so I wouldn't expect mages to be mana healing you. I also play a warrior and while I don't like the change to Vengeful Blood, its still pretty good. Now I am just using mana pots and will probably leverage a pet with mana regen when I need to. In my opinion between playing a warrior vs a mage its cheaper and easier to play a warrior. However I don't think they should have nerfed vengeful blood. You can't expect everyone to have the same build, if so then they should eliminate all other skills except the 4 they want people to use.
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    Warriors never had to mana pot up through this point, while other classes guzzle both kinds.

    Try going into a group, taunting, and hit your VB. it's not too bad. They said elites and PVP give more mana per hit too

    PVP other classes have always had mana issues. Try using the little blue mana packs or stay out of combat for 10s and you'll be nearly full man

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    Warriors use up a lot of mana. And when I have a weak party in any realm, I'm the one doing stuff and I end up using 30 pots in one go. This results in quite a huge monetary loss. Plus, in PvP, Vengeful blood quickly restored the mana and that was really helpful when you're running low in mana after a fight. I agree with Lethal that we spend a lot of gold in this game. And it takes a lot of time to earn it. I've never bought stuff either from the store with plat so its even harder for me.
    My point is, what was the need of changing Vengeful Blood in the first place!? It was perfect! Nobody had asked to change it. The new weapons are so expensive that only the rich people can afford it while I have just 30K and my mighty vorpal sword of assault is better than anything available in that price range.
    So please STS guys, if you're reading this, do consider our case!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoxKramer View Post

    PVP other classes have always had mana issues. Try using the little blue mana packs or stay out of combat for 10s and you'll be nearly full man
    10s is a lot of time when you have a herd of rogues and mages behind you!! Plus, warriors are slow as a turtle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethalknight View Post
    I am not ganna go buy pots everytime I need to run elite. If I can afford pay 1400 to buy pots then how about the other ppl that cant.
    Sorry man, everyone is going to have to chug pots when needed in elites, and warriors need the most in order to survive, as they have the highest armor and health, and should be surviving so the more damaging classes can, too. Just how it works really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmoxKramer View Post
    Warriors never had to mana pot up through this point, while other classes guzzle both kinds.
    Simply not true, my two rogues rarely had to health pot...often had to mana pot but could avoid if I really wished (2 diff builds...both pot'd the same imho). My warr used a fair amount of health pots saving my heal for group health drops...but did not have the need for mana.

    All toons used same amount of pots...

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    With my group i didn't have to neither they did have to use a lot of pots. I run elite ss every day and my group uses from 5 to 10 Health pots. Because there is 2 warriors (including me) are healing the group and keeping them safe. Changing VB make things worst.

    A message to rogue ppl. I killed warriors with my rogue before even they had a chance to get a Charge. on me. As for Mage class. sometime in pvp mage kill me easily because of their shield and time shift. So my point is everything was balanced why they fcked it up. Whats the point. From my opinion with every update they try to suck our wallets. More pots = more spending in game currency. And if you are not good at trading then you will have to buy in game currency with real cash.

    I mean its not enough that they put mythic helmets in a 15 platinum chests. GREED IS KILLING THEM
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    I enjoy the warrior class more since the update. Your a warrior with all points in str, if you want more mana put those points in int. you can't have everything. Although it sounds like the waaambulance needs to stay close. Give me a break you guys. Some people can't afforded potions? Really? It's a game that gives gold away for free. Do a daily mission or two, buy some potions, farm elites for some gear to auction off. The player base in AL disappoints. I have never heard more complaining from any community. This is a good game and all of you have devoted the hours to prove that. If you all think some changes need to made mention this without the tears. I understand the average age around hear is 12-14, but all I hear from everyone is I want zero challenge in my game and I want everything to be free. Go try the my little pony app, I'm sure all you have to do there is move your toon. No dying, nothing "unfair". Good luck to all of your parents. They'll need it. This everyone deserves a trophy generation is in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethalknight View Post
    Now I am stuck here. First of all, who ever decide the update u SUCKKKK. I spend all the time, effort and money on this game. If I saw this game after this stupid update I wouldnt bother to play it for 1 day . Now the power is not balanced not in PVE nor PVP. How can I pve now without a mage stick to my butt. Without a mage I will have to use pots all time. Seriously, whats the role of warrior now. Warrior cant tank with 1200 armor thats if u have the best of the best gear WHICH NOT EVERYONE CANT AFFORD. Warrior cant pvp because they are so easy targets for rogue. I am wandering did you really played the game. Or at least test it before u release this update. The only thing keeping me here is because my money that I spent here + the countless hours. I wont spend one single cent on this game anymore.
    I feel you brother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethalknight View Post
    Now I am stuck here. First of all, who ever decide the update u SUCKKKK. I spend all the time, effort and money on this game. If I saw this game after this stupid update I wouldnt bother to play it for 1 day . Now the power is not balanced not in PVE nor PVP. How can I pve now without a mage stick to my butt. Without a mage I will have to use pots all time. Seriously, whats the role of warrior now. Warrior cant tank with 1200 armor thats if u have the best of the best gear WHICH NOT EVERYONE CANT AFFORD. Warrior cant pvp because they are so easy targets for rogue. I am wandering did you really played the game. Or at least test it before u release this update. The only thing keeping me here is because my money that I spent here + the countless hours. I wont spend one single cent on this game anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by Serfius View Post
    I enjoy the warrior class more since the update. Your a warrior with all points in str, if you want more mana put those points in int. you can't have everything. Although it sounds like the waaambulance needs to stay close. Give me a break you guys. Some people can't afforded potions? Really? It's a game that gives gold away for free. Do a daily mission or two, buy some potions, farm elites for some gear to auction off. The player base in AL disappoints. I have never heard more complaining from any community. This is a good game and all of you have devoted the hours to prove that. If you all think some changes need to made mention this without the tears. I understand the average age around hear is 12-14, but all I hear from everyone is I want zero challenge in my game and I want everything to be free. Go try the my little pony app, I'm sure all you have to do there is move your toon. No dying, nothing "unfair". Good luck to all of your parents. They'll need it. This everyone deserves a trophy generation is in trouble.
    First of all, not everyone thinks like you, secondly play rogues and sorcs for you to understand what the fuss is about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethalknight View Post
    Now I am stuck here. First of all, who ever decide the update u SUCKKKK. I spend all the time, effort and money on this game. If I saw this game after this stupid update I wouldnt bother to play it for 1 day . Now the power is not balanced not in PVE nor PVP. How can I pve now without a mage stick to my butt. Without a mage I will have to use pots all time. Seriously, whats the role of warrior now. Warrior cant tank with 1200 armor thats if u have the best of the best gear WHICH NOT EVERYONE CANT AFFORD. Warrior cant pvp because they are so easy targets for rogue. I am wandering did you really played the game. Or at least test it before u release this update. The only thing keeping me here is because my money that I spent here + the countless hours. I wont spend one single cent on this game anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hiosahaf View Post
    Warriors use up a lot of mana. And when I have a weak party in any realm, I'm the one doing stuff and I end up using 30 pots in one go. This results in quite a huge monetary loss. Plus, in PvP, Vengeful blood quickly restored the mana and that was really helpful when you're running low in mana after a fight. I agree with Lethal that we spend a lot of gold in this game. And it takes a lot of time to earn it. I've never bought stuff either from the store with plat so its even harder for me.
    My point is, what was the need of changing Vengeful Blood in the first place!? It was perfect! Nobody had asked to change it. The new weapons are so expensive that only the rich people can afford it while I have just 30K and my mighty vorpal sword of assault is better than anything available in that price range.
    So please STS guys, if you're reading this, do consider our case!!
    Actually the rogues and sorc players complained about the vengeful blood. They're to blame!

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    I think the solution is to get rid of all skills, armor, weapons, and pets tjis way everyone is basically equal except how they set up their attribute points, then nerf all enemies on all maps and this way everyone can have fun punching each other

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillaSkillz View Post
    I think the solution is to get rid of all skills, armor, weapons, and pets tjis way everyone is basically equal except how they set up their attribute points, then nerf all enemies on all maps and this way everyone can have fun punching each other
    + a billion hehe

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