Ripmaw Replaced by Slag the Fire Elemental on Thursday - Comparison - UPDATED!

[Iphoneington]

Good change

[Dervy]

Imo this is unfair.. 30str hazel for wars is superb.. ive seen good wars who uses it..
Windmill + hazel will kill rouges without gving it a room to regen or move fast to get his/her hp packs.. with the axe throw + hazel abilty + cripple on windmill? Goodluck on getting ur heal packs rouges!!

Colton and d white monkey has 30ints..
Colton mainly has 30int + 10% dmge arcne ablty is a 15% crit.. i mean this is op ardy.. but ddnt hear frm rouges whine bout this..
Coz mages imo needed it coz they lack def & hp before..

No how bout rouges? Yes rouges has high dmge output.. but was it considered that d 2 class has shields? I mean they hve invulnerability for 2 secs and dmge reduction.. imo thats d counterpart alrdy of rouges hving high dmge.. 25 dex with granite was imo useless.. coz it only adds dmge and a bit of dps.. so mali s still dbest pet for rouges imo.. now 30 dex and 10int that wud be more usable pet than mali..

D whole point is y bck out for rouges to hve +30 dex? Wen d 2 classes hve one?

[Akaee]

Guess i dont have to buy extra plat now :-D

[Darko]

Imo this is unfair.. 30str hazel for wars is superb.. ive seen good wars who uses it..
Windmill + hazel will kill rouges without gving it a room to regen or move fast to get his/her hp packs.. with the axe throw + hazel abilty + cripple on windmill? Goodluck on getting ur heal packs rouges!!

Colton and d white monkey has 30ints..
Colton mainly has 30int + 10% dmge arcne ablty is a 15% crit.. i mean this is op ardy.. but ddnt hear frm rouges whine bout this..
Coz mages imo needed it coz they lack def & hp before..

No how bout rouges? Yes rouges has high dmge output.. but was it considered that d 2 class has shields? I mean they hve invulnerability for 2 secs and dmge reduction.. imo thats d counterpart alrdy of rouges hving high dmge.. 25 dex with granite was imo useless.. coz it only adds dmge and a bit of dps.. so mali s still dbest pet for rouges imo.. now 30 dex and 10int that wud be more usable pet than mali..

D whole point is y bck out for rouges to hve +30 dex? Wen d 2 classes hve one?

So hazel at 30 is superb, but grantie at 25 is useless?? 5 points isn't a huge difference.. and hazel gives us speed, yay, and slows down enemies, yay.. butgranite adds dodge , and mana regean, both needed, it reduce armor 10% , helps rouge. That's a good pet, way better than hazel. .. only reason warriors use hazel is cause our options are limited. And nexus us a new found rouges best friend..so if sts made a 30+ dex pet with speed. Would you be happy?? Just curious. ..

[Laevateinn]

So hazel at 30 is superb, but grantie at 25 is useless?? 5 points isn't a huge difference.. and hazel gives us speed, yay, and slows down enemies, yay.. butgranite adds dodge , and mana regean, both needed, it reduce armor 10% , helps rouge. That's a good pet, way better than hazel. .. only reason warriors use hazel is cause our options are limited. And nexus us a new found rouges best friend..so if sts made a 30+ dex pet with speed. Would you be happy?? Just curious. ..

I think he's trying to compare Hazel to other warrior alternatives, Colton to other mage alternatives, and Granite to other rogue alternatives. He's not comparing Hazel to Colton to Granite. Warriors and mages each have these 'specialty' pets that provide +30 bonus to their main stat and they're at least decent enough to rival balanced pets that any class can benefit from, like Malison. Granite, the rogue's equivalent of a warrior's Hazel or a mage's Colton, doesn't really match up as well to the rogue's alternatives.

[Mysticaleagle]

Warrior, Hazel 30 STR.
Sorcerer, Colton 30 INT.
Rogue, no 30 DEX.

Seems legit..

[Dervy]

So hazel at 30 is superb, but grantie at 25 is useless?? 5 points isn't a huge difference.. and hazel gives us speed, yay, and slows down enemies, yay.. butgranite adds dodge , and mana regean, both needed, it reduce armor 10% , helps rouge. That's a good pet, way better than hazel. .. only reason warriors use hazel is cause our options are limited. And nexus us a new found rouges best friend..so if sts made a 30+ dex pet with speed. Would you be happy?? Just curious. ..

Oh u ddnt get my point ddnt u? D whole point here is that.. there is 30int & 30str pet but no 30dex.. :3 and yes granite is useless compared to mali.. 10%regen isnt enough to replenish mana lost wen fast encounters come..

[Dervy]

I think he's trying to compare Hazel to other warrior alternatives, Colton to other mage alternatives, and Granite to other rogue alternatives. He's not comparing Hazel to Colton to Granite. Warriors and mages each have these 'specialty' pets that provide +30 bonus to their main stat and they're at least decent enough to rival balanced pets that any class can benefit from, like Malison. Granite, the rogue's equivalent of a warrior's Hazel or a mage's Colton, doesn't really match up as well to the rogue's alternatives.

Oh and im a she hihihi :3

[Caiahar]

Imo this is unfair.. 30str hazel for wars is superb.. ive seen good wars who uses it..
Windmill + hazel will kill rouges without gving it a room to regen or move fast to get his/her hp packs.. with the axe throw + hazel abilty + cripple on windmill? Goodluck on getting ur heal packs rouges!!

Colton and d white monkey has 30ints..
Colton mainly has 30int + 10% dmge arcne ablty is a 15% crit.. i mean this is op ardy.. but ddnt hear frm rouges whine bout this..
Coz mages imo needed it coz they lack def & hp before..

No how bout rouges? Yes rouges has high dmge output.. but was it considered that d 2 class has shields? I mean they hve invulnerability for 2 secs and dmge reduction.. imo thats d counterpart alrdy of rouges hving high dmge.. 25 dex with granite was imo useless.. coz it only adds dmge and a bit of dps.. so mali s still dbest pet for rouges imo.. now 30 dex and 10int that wud be more usable pet than mali..

D whole point is y bck out for rouges to hve +30 dex? Wen d 2 classes hve one?

Reminder: 2 sec Invincible shield on Mage doesn't even work. And most rogues can break it with an aimed shot...

[Dervy]

Reminder: 2 sec Invincible shield on Mage doesn't even work. And most rogues can break it with an aimed shot...

Ddnt noticed that tho.. but it still reduces dmge doesnt it? In one on one with a sorcerer i hve a hard time winning.. so atm i cud say sorcerer rocks!! ..

[Caiahar]

Ddnt noticed that tho.. but it still reduces dmge doesnt it? In one on one with a sorcerer i hve a hard time winning.. so atm i cud say sorcerer rocks!! ..

Nope, it doesn't. The warrior shield is UN breakable. It provides FULL invinciblity for 2 sec. No attacks will work at the time. However, the dmg reduction is measly, and it doesn't go with lvl. At 21 cap, shield was awesome, but since the dmg absorption doesn't go up with lvl, in a few more caps, shield can be broken be a measly auto attack.

[Zuzeq]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but not too long ago during the "tank" update STS said "try these changes out before crying" and "Base your opinions of gameplay NOT speculation" YEEET.. they change Slag's stats before the first egg is even hatched...huh? Cheers to consistency!!

[bastiantarigan]

This pet like an Arcane pet, better than Hammerjaw stat.

[jtst]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but not too long ago during the "tank" update STS said "try these changes out before crying" and "Base your opinions of gameplay NOT speculation" YEEET.. they change Slag's stats before the first egg is even hatched...huh? Cheers to consistency!!

You want to buy a pet you want and then regret after they will nerf it? It's super-awesome they changed it BEFORE release. Now you know what you buy. In my case, I know what I don't buy

[Rare]

You want to buy a pet you want and then regret after they will nerf it? It's super-awesome they changed it BEFORE release. Now you know what you buy. In my case, I know what I don't buy

You are definitely right here. If they are going to change it, they HAVE to change it BEFORE its released. Once its out, changing it is a bad idea. We've already seen the conspiracy theory around Ripmaw. Lets not let it happen again.

[Darko]

Agreed a 30dex pet is needed, lets just wait to see if ita release with ALL new pets being released.....the one difference I might add though is rouges are the only class that can duel spec....putting attributes in strength actually imprive your health ans you can balance it to make it high d amage higher health. .. a warrior CANNOT do that ..period.. our best stats are 100% in str. If we put anythibg in dexz our health, dps , ANd damage all go down...crit and dodge barely even move. So when u feel left out of the 30++ club, feel lucky you have the ability to spec like that, a rouge can get 4000 health like warrior. .....a warrior CANNOT get above 210 dps no matter what we can't sacrafice health for damage and dps.....feel lucky

[Energizeric]

It's fairly useless for elite farming because it doesn't add a lot of dex, no int and no str. It might crank up crit and dodge but, since the latest changes, the huge sacrifice in survivability isn't worth the relatively little increase in dmg output.

At least that's my experience with McCraw vs for example Malison during countless elite runs.

If you think about it, a 10% increase in dodge would be equal to a 10% increase in health points. And since critical hits are on average around 100% extra damage (depending on the skill used), then a 10% crit increase would be equal to a 10% increase in damage. I think you under estimate the stats of McCaw. I'm not even a rogue but I still use McCraw on occasion. For a rogue I think McCaw would be excellent, if not for PvE then definitely for PvP. The extra speed is always good as well.

[Darko]

You want to buy a pet you want and then regret after they will nerf it? It's super-awesome they changed it BEFORE release. Now you know what you buy. In my case, I know what I don't buy

Try being a warrior, fire choppa sword was inncorrct on stats peopke made millions for it thinking ot had 90 sone odd damage, sts changes it to 50 sone odd damage making it worthless......... and THAN the axe of potency was best weapon, axe of assualt wasn't, (these are platinum based weapons, so real money mind you) and they updatr it, makibg potency worthless, and axe better....making it so the rich lost millions, and the poor who could only afford the assault now had one of the best weapons in the game.. lol talk about socialism. ...so im very happy this change is made beforr release

[Darko]

If you think about it, a 10% increase in dodge would be equal to a 10% increase in health points. And since critical hits are on average around 100% extra damage (depending on the skill used), then a 10% crit increase would be equal to a 10% increase in damage. I think you under estimate the stats of McCaw. I'm not even a rogue but I still use McCraw on occasion. For a rogue I think McCaw would be excellent, if not for PvE then definitely for PvP. The extra speed is always good as well.

The variable nobody is talking about is pet level in pvp, that's a huge player...some use pets at level 10-15 instead of 25-26, so id ask, what level is your mccraw

[jtst]

If you think about it, a 10% increase in dodge would be equal to a 10% increase in health points. And since critical hits are on average around 100% extra damage (depending on the skill used), then a 10% crit increase would be equal to a 10% increase in damage. I think you under estimate the stats of McCaw. I'm not even a rogue but I still use McCraw on occasion. For a rogue I think McCaw would be excellent, if not for PvE then definitely for PvP. The extra speed is always good as well.

You are very persistent. You judge on stats - they look good for late stage of the game (36lvl >). Arcane ability of mccraw is chance to bleed and it's ridiculously low damage.
Mali is twice as effective in pvp and pve for rogue and his party. Mccraw is not even in top10 of pet's list.
I bought it for 900k in hope for cool pet, it was my mistake.