I don't like that I can't get the best items without some investment

[Eggcelent]

I think people that spend real money on plat to open crates should be compensated with something. I cant imagine how aggravating it is spending as much as some people claim to and wind up with nothing to show for it.

[Rare]

I think people that play slot machines should be compensated with something. I can't imagine how aggravating it is spending as much as some people claim to and wind up with nothing to show for it.

Oh... my bad... I didn't realize Arcane Legends was a casino.

[Wowsome]

Yeah me too! We must remember that AL is not a perfect game just like any other.

I'm already satisfied with my gears, pets and level without having to spend real time money ever!

Only concern is that I can't wait for the expansion!!

This is when we fill up our stashes for Nordr

[moonway03]

*sigh* I really didn't ever want to have to write a post like this but I believe it needs to be brought to the attention to STS in a severe and upfront way. I have played Arcane Legends almost from the beginning and have enjoyed it for quite some time. That being said there are a number of growing issues I see as a gamer that are either being overlooked or STS just doesn't care.

1. The game is so undoubted plat driven it hurts. You simple can not go out and farm for the best pets or items anymore you have to buy crates and open them with platinum or buy pets from the pet stable that aren't even worth the amount of plat they're charging for them. On the fact that you have to open crates you lose twice. Which brings up point 2.

2. Locked crates were the beginning of the end of the game. You have to either farm or buy from consignment shop. Farming them is a pain because the drop rate of them are so low that it's just simply easier to buy them. Well in buying them you lose twice like i said. You lose gold and platinum on one crate.

3. Three also relates to 1. and 2. in that in order to get anything great you have to farm your hind end off to get it. Fine I'm ok with that. But in order to get anything good you have to farm in Elites which, as I said in previous posts, is not for the casual gamer. So you have to load up on potions, but wait....those cost gold too. So you have to spend money on pots to farm (which I'll address the laughable drop rate in number 4.) you farm and farm and are hemorrhaging pots and gold in order to stay in the game. Then it finally happens, you get something worth selling. licking your wounds you go to the consignment shop to sell it. Then comparing the amount of gold you spent on pots, don't forget feeding your pet, you realize you're losing money every time you try to farm.

4. the biggest issue is the two tier drop rate or lack there of. you farm and farm and farm and farm losing money on pots and feeding your pet and farm and farm and farm. you get nothing MAYBE MAYBE if you're lucky you get a crate or chests. BUT seeing as this is a two tier system now you have to roll the dice on that crate or chest. do you want to sell it and make some money back to farm some more, or open it and possibly lose plat on crate or make less than 100 gold on the chests contents because you rarely get an item worth anything.

Example: I have farmed Palm Rock for what seems like forever, day in day out all day all night Palm Rock. Trying to get that staff that I don't even need but i know it sells for millions so I wanted it to drop so I can make some gold. Not only did I NEVER get the staff to drop I never even got an elite gold pirate chest. AND to pour salt in the wound I watched two other ppl get the staff ONE THEIR FIRST RUNS. So i said screw it i'll get some more plat (if you know me you know I spent an insane amount of plat on opening crates for Hammerjaw) i'll open more crates and get a mythic or Glacian or something to revive myself in this game. lets just say it would have been better to spend the platinum on gold and get something then waste my plat and time on opening crates.

So to wrap this up and get off my soap box I will say this, STS has forgotten the gamer and only thinks of their money in my opinion. They want us to get plat and gamble on opening crates. or spend it on rerolls and I'm sick of it, something has to change in this upcoming expansion or i'm done and trust me when I say i'm not the only one.

I hate to break the moment but... No investment = no salary. No salary = no new content

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[Nommos]

quick (and only?) solution
just keep the crates as it is now, but give us the ability to craft the items.
put super rare drops as nexus, and then let us spend platinum for the crafting recipe to make them arcane or mythic.
That way people with no patience can still spend their money to open the crates and get the arcane items if they are lucky, and other people just farm them and pay for the recipes to craft them.

[wvhills]

This is my MAIN concern when it comes to spending in game:

A lot of people are saying if sts doesn't make money then we won't have new content. I would happily spend a lot more than I currently do now in ARCANE LEGENDS if I knew that it would lead to new content in ARCANE LEGENDS. However, it seems like to me they use the money generated from their latest game to fund the development of their next game. When that next game comes out then the former game gets forgotten about. I didn't play SL but I started with PL then DL and now AL. Speaking for myself, I'm done with jumping around from game to game. I did do a free offer in AL and recieved 1120 plat (it was a credit card offer). Whether or not I buy any plat depends on how often AL gets updated once the next title comes out. If we continue to get updates every 3 or 4 months I'll gladly buy plat and support the game. If we go 6 or 7 months and don't get any updates (or go 6 or 7 months and have a level cap increase with no new maps) then I won't be buying any plats.

[Darko]

Ijust remember that in sl there were weapons that are only platinum, non tradeable, non sellable, and they were best lookibg, and best attribute weapons, now there is no incentive to use platinum, none whatsoever, now platinun itens are the worst items each cap, smh, they are like the beginner weapons, real money in any game equals better items? ?? But here real money only gets you the same items everyone was can get faster..pwts used to be the only thing platinum users had but then they allowed malison and nexus drops for example. ..so lame. .

[Raxin]

Plat purchased pvp maps/modes eould infuse revenue also and its just reskinning the ctf model...

[CrimsonTider]

I hate to break the moment but... No investment = no salary. No salary = no new content

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Then please tell me why STS constantly insists their games are free-to-play and NOONE has to spend plat? Pretty sure that tune would change if NOONE bought plat. Problem is: They know how to tap into those addictions whether it is the race to cap first or find the first rare item/pet.

Still feel the same?

@wvhills - Precisely. Money which goes into an STS game funds ALL STS games. Those of us who spent a ton of money on PL, for PL, to keep PL going have seen PL drop in quality and three new titles arise. And guess what peeps, they WILL have more "Legends" titles.

[Monstertongue]

For a mmorpg....it's dead when gamers have to wait for expansion or new contents

I will definitely pay to play to get best item or pets when I see some "future" in the game but when the game is stagnant and u need to introduce plat driven storyline to keep the community going, it just show how bad the game evolve into.

[Kazillo]

There is a simple answer to everyone's war about Mythics and Arcanes being too rare.

1) AGAIN, the STS community has families to provide for and they need pay checks just like everyone else! For example, imagine you work for a company and people are always harking at you that your prices are to high! But all your income comes from this one good that your selling. You would have to balance out the pros and cons somewhere! You would have to make a choice between getting a low pay check along with people being happy. Or keeping it same price but people will stay unhappy. What you would need to do is come up with an alternative. This is exactly what SpaceTime has done, they have developed super rare Mythic and Arcane items so they can at least make a pay check and put food on the table. Along with there being an alternative that won't cost a cent! It makes perfect sense and it is JUST LIKE THE REAL WORLD! If you want the best house it will cost you more money (money=rarity) but if you don't want to spend all that money you can just buy the lesser priced house and get something good but not the best, because in real life if you want the best you have to pay more. It's simple logic.

2) If rarity decreased along with prices, it would no longer count as a Mythic or Arcane item! I wouldn't be special because everyone else would have one. In another example, imagine you joined this guild. Wow, awesome you've just been promoted to officer! But wait, everyone else is an Officer also! Suddenly being and Officer feels a lot less special doesn't it. It would take away the accomplished feeling of having a Mythic or Arcane item. You might as well be bragging about getting a bronze chest.

3) Simple economics cannot allow Mythic and Arcane items to have a decreased rarity. Think about it, these items spawn into the world. The more there is the less valuable they are. That is why STS has implemented limited or seasonal items. If they weren't limited, all those months of them spawning for players would build up and they would have a decreased rarity. Rarity will naturally decrease because these items are always being produced (spawned). In the future of AL STS will have to continue raising the rarity of ALL items due to the growth in item numbers. If Captains Axes were always spawning, even if not on a constant basis. Over time there would still be a lot of Captains Axes. So they would have to raise the rarity to have some sort of demand for an item. But with higher rarity comes higher good drops because gold drops and item drops would have to balance out to keep the economy moving and not so there are tons of extremely high priced rare items with little gold to buy. It's really hard to explain and I probably messed up somewhere in the info cluster but basically IF MYTHIC OR ARCANE ITEMS HAD A DECREASED RARITY OR DECREASED PRICES, IT WOULD MESS WITH AL'S ECONOMY SYSTEM!

[Bluepinixy]

Yes, but getting stuff without some hard work doesn't feel very rewarding.
For me, that is.
This game isn't quite a 'pay to win' game, though. For me (Even though I don't have 'epic gear that costs millions') it still feels like you can progress without having to spend money.
I've met quite a few games that are 'pay to win', though and they are MUCH worse.

But, STS needs the money to make the game we love so much more fun
And as Kazillo said, they also need a way to get money because they have LIVES to live and you pretty much cant do that without money. (sadly)

[Kazillo]

I'm tired of peole whining that the game is dependent on Platinum. In reality, if it was truly dependent on platinum STS would make you pay 15 platinum to reach the lvl cap... And pay 15 to unlock the auction and stash features. They could also make PVP cost platinum like in Pocket Legends. So before you go on a rant about how terrible and heart breaking the platinum system is, just think... It could be worse.

[iluvataris]

Even with an investment its a loss... so dissatisfied with my crate investment shoulda just converted to gold. Weont make that mistake again.

[McBain]

And guess what peeps, they WILL have more "Legends" titles.

Preeeeeety sure there is a new one in the works even as we speak too. Can't remember where I read that. It was some interview on some site with one of the STS guys from a while back. Said something along the lines of there being another title planned beyond AL. I'm sure it's a long way off at this point, but still...there's gonna be more games coming eventually.

[Alexes Mendoza]

Im one of those people on limbo because of em crate and plat experiences. Im used to playing games that hand out rare loot by either grinding or earning (wow). And if you do get a gold chest or two from farming elites roughly half a day, chances are you wont get any. Rinse and repeat and if you have plat... the unlock button will prolly look more friendly... Then the frustration...

Currently im waiting for change. Please give us a favor and eliminate the chance game when it involves our hard earned money. If not then the show must go on. Still have time to burn though before valkyrie uprising...

[Mysticaleagle]

Etat: 3305 platinum used to open crates, and didn't receive any item more valuable than 10k gold. What now..

[LwMark]

I wish i could take one of you complainers, to sts office, put u in a chair and say get to work, also u have 4 games to work on heres ur bank account, ur goal is to make updates, but u have to fund them, what would u do first

[CrimsonTider]

I'm tired of peole whining that the game is dependent on Platinum. In reality, if it was truly dependent on platinum STS would make you pay 15 platinum to reach the lvl cap... And pay 15 to unlock the auction and stash features. They could also make PVP cost platinum like in Pocket Legends. So before you go on a rant about how terrible and heart breaking the platinum system is, just think... It could be worse.

Reading the entire thread and each post is helpful. Also, if you have been involved with STS as long as some of us have, we all had the "it could be worse" feeling at one point or another. Guess what, it did.

[Navygreen]

I hate to do this and offend anyone, but I really think that the game is fine the way it is. It's understandable that some players simply can't get the plat you need to make the game easier or go by faster. So it seems unfair, but the reality is - the game is playable and enjoyable without ever having to spend a dime. I've spent a few dollars on plat and it helps me enjoy the game. I have vanity and epic/legendary items because of plat, but a lot of the better items i've come across were from getting lucky on a run. If you play the game, you will find items.

And yes, platinum can speed up that process and help you get the items that may take you 2 weeks to find farming. But so what? The game is free in the app store, the maps are free, every feature is available, almost all items are available, it's just as much fun - all without having to spend a dime.

I'm not saying I don't agree with some of the things said in this thread, but I'm just saying. I think the game is just fine, and that's not because I can buy the plat. It's because it's a great game overall, with or without paying extra money.