Twinking in Peril

**CrimsonTider** · 03-28-2013, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Ujustgotnuked

Hang on a second, someone said forgotten items makes pvp fair? Let me save this moment with 'HAH'. Ok lets take 30 pvp for a minute. Fbows at that lvl cost 150-300k right? How is a new person EVER going to get that money, and if they do, theyre not new... 2nd (still on lvl 30 example) seing as fbows are expensive, before them, everyone used shiv and brain and iceberg, it takes less than 2 runs just to get them, theyre not very rare, i got two shivs and an iceberg in 1 run without elixer no lie, maybe thats just luck, but with an elixer you will probably get them ofter, so for new players at 30 pvp, it would be fair for no fbows, and hey i just forgot about the fact that the unoverpowerd weapons are LITERALLY 2k. So whoever said forgotten items make pvp fair.....LAWL.

Most new players don't stick around at twinking levels to PvP. Most twinks are from veterans who are tired of endgame or love PvP.

**XghostzX** · 03-28-2013, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by CrimsonTider

Sorry but I have never understood the hate in this tactic. When I use to 1v1 someone and they hid behind trees, I took it as an opportunity let my skills cooldown and wait for them to come to me. Many in this game get kills off of emotion. What I mean is they get someone upset, causing them to play by their terms, and when people are frustrated, they lose focus. This equates to losing.

Someone with your skill, and others like you, should be able to use the range of a chunker and kite the crap out of a forgotten bow.

This^

When you're less powerful than your opponent, "tree hugging" is such a useful tactic.

Yich - When you play End game, you know that Birds are extremely OP. My angelic mage has a 1/5 chance of winning each time. I got really good hiding behind a tree.

When a bird hides behind a tree, I take into account what Crim said - give myself time to let my skills cool down.

**Subscriber** · 03-28-2013, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by CrimsonTider

Sorry but I have never understood the hate in this tactic. When I use to 1v1 someone and they hid behind trees, I took it as an opportunity let my skills cooldown and wait for them to come to me. Many in this game get kills off of emotion. What I mean is they get someone upset, causing them to play by their terms, and when people are frustrated, they lose focus. This equates to losing.

Someone with your skill, and others like you, should be able to use the range of a chunker and kite the crap out of a forgotten bow.

This makes 100% sense and when somebody is behind a tree, just wait.

Still, it's annoying and can be frustrating.

**Yich** · 03-28-2013, 03:59 PM

That's all fine and dandy for 1v1s. Just wait for them to come out, yay. Im including myself in this when I say everyone rushes new players. This is why some people were so glad forg bows were released. It gave new players a chance. Every day forg items raise in value. The gap between new players and L33T players gets bigger and bigger day by day.

**hotpimp** · 03-28-2013, 04:07 PM

It's simple, release forgotten helms and armor. And buff skill damage. MAKE EVERYTHING OVER POWERED. If everything is OP then no one will complain about FB being OP.

**Yich** · 03-28-2013, 04:16 PM

^^true visionary

**tHelonestud** · 03-28-2013, 04:29 PM

Actually they just need to rebalance the whole game, make bears have to tank at level 2 start them with beckon. Almost all the bows(nonforgotten) need a damage boost; strength damage needs reduced; dodge needs reduced; health and armour need increased; the wand/staff damage needs modified at most levels; debuffs for chance based stats need modified.
But why do all this work when you can abandon your problems and make a whole new game and kick your oldest customers in the face at the same time?

**Phoenixking** · 03-28-2013, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by tHelonestud

Actually they just need to rebalance the whole game, make bears have to tank at level 2 start them with beckon. Almost all the bows(nonforgotten) need a damage boost; strength damage needs reduced; dodge needs reduced; health and armour need increased; the wand/staff damage needs modified at most levels; debuffs for chance based stats need modified.
But why do all this work when you can abandon your problems and make a whole new game and kick your oldest customers in the face at the same time?

You thought the exact same thing I think

**Yich** · 03-28-2013, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by tHelonestud

Actually they just need to rebalance the whole game, make bears have to tank at level 2 start them with beckon. Almost all the bows(nonforgotten) need a damage boost; strength damage needs reduced; dodge needs reduced; health and armour need increased; the wand/staff damage needs modified at most levels; debuffs for chance based stats need modified.
But why do all this work when you can abandon your problems and make a whole new game and kick your oldest customers in the face at the same time?

I feel bad for AL players then. Dark future headed their way, should history repeat itself. It will.

**Bunnyshoota** · 03-28-2013, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Yich

Not too long ago the forgotten items were released. Then halloween items. Both discontinued. When I asked for forg bows to be nerfed, many argued that the bows put the new players on an equal level as the seasoned twinks as far as gear is concerned. Perhaps that is a contributing factor as to why they werent nerfed, and if it was, something needs done. Forg items will slowly rise in price to the point that they are impossible for now players to obtain. Same thing with hween items. This makes it even worse for new players than it was for them when they had to use a talon to fight my SBL (oh boo hoo, I can freeze you). New players who cant afford a forgotten bow would surely quit PvP and possibly the game. So for anyone who says forg bows make everyone equal, where is your argument now? Perhaps they just made YOU equal.

Anyways, there needs to be items to balance out the forg bows or they need re released so they arent unobtainable to the masses of new players that get farmed by the regulars with forg items. If anyone thought that new players had it bad because of "OP" xmas items, why do so few think the same about these forg items? Everyone seems to have forgotten the noobies now that theyre on top with their forg bow. Then again, wut do I care, Im playing League of Legends anyway.

Nerf the forg.

-Yich

yus

yich is pro

**Subscriber** · 03-28-2013, 05:55 PM

For all you tomaters and potaters that think they shouldn't be nerfed.

Potatoes gonna potate.

Tomatoes gonna tomate.

**Extreme** · 03-28-2013, 06:02 PM

Nerf Fbow!

**Trenton** · 03-28-2013, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Subscriber

For all you tomaters and potaters that think they shouldn't be nerfed.

Potatoes gonna potate.

Tomatoes gonna tomate.

And alligators gonna alligate.

**tHelonestud** · 03-28-2013, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Yich

I feel bad for AL players then. Dark future headed their way, should history repeat itself. It will.

dark future for spacetime actually once people start to see a record of trashing all the old games and customers. If they keep pumping out 3 games every two years and only supporting their favorite, I don't know if anyone will want to play their new astro legends over garbageman legends.

**Subscriber** · 03-28-2013, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Trenton

And alligators gonna alligate.

And Captain Barbados gonna Barbadate.

**Bous** · 03-28-2013, 09:03 PM

Not to mention how endgame is a couple shots. fbows can still be toned down a bit so players can atleast pvp at 10-61. Sts y u no have poll vote!? I bet so many players would come back and pvp would be reborn

**XghostzX** · 03-29-2013, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by tHelonestud

Actually they just need to rebalance the whole game, make bears have to tank at level 2 start them with beckon. Almost all the bows(nonforgotten) need a damage boost; strength damage needs reduced; dodge needs reduced; health and armour need increased; the wand/staff damage needs modified at most levels; debuffs for chance based stats need modified.
But why do all this work when you can abandon your problems and make a whole new game and kick your oldest customers in the face at the same time?

Slap in the face, right there.

**blitzkraig** · 03-29-2013, 04:38 AM

I wish they would nerf forgotten weapons already because it has caused a large amount of immaturity levels 10-40.
Nerf the forgotten weapons and you will have a more mature community for new players, STS.

**MightyMicah** · 03-29-2013, 06:13 AM

I like this thread. I'm of the opinion that new forgotten or new items in general won't help the overall situation of the game. That's like constructing an extra floor on a building that has a broken foundation. Nerfing the fbow is a good start, but we need to go back to the very start. Get all the old sets which are useless now and fix their stats. (Sand cave sets, brain freeze and iceberg, copperhead and swamp rat, etc.)

In fact, that's a great idea. I wonder if I went through levels 1-50 and reworked the stats, if the devs would actually fix them. I may try and tackle that...

**Subscriber** · 03-29-2013, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by MightyMicah

I like this thread. I'm of the opinion that new forgotten or new items in general won't help the overall situation of the game. That's like constructing an extra floor on a building that has a broken foundation. Nerfing the fbow is a good start, but we need to go back to the very start. Get all the old sets which are useless now and fix their stats. (Sand cave sets, brain freeze and iceberg, copperhead and swamp rat, etc.)

In fact, that's a great idea. I wonder if I went through levels 1-50 and reworked the stats, if the devs would actually fix them. I may try and tackle that...

Another book-like thread? Do it Micah.