Top Guilds Listing

[H2N]

We have been having discussions amongst the devs about posting a weekly updated Top 50 Guilds listing here in the forum. It would contain the top 50 guilds by total achievement points of the guild members, along with other pertinent guild stats such as: PvE K/D, PvE Kills/Member, CTF K/D, CTF Kills/Member, CTF Captures/Member, 1d active %, 3d active %, 7d active %, 15d active %, and 30d active %. Only guild members level 10 or above would be included in the calculations. As always, this is subject to change/cancellation, but if everything works out, we hope to have this useful/interesting data available to you soon.

[azerty]

nice add

[blakadder]

YES!

and yes!

and did i mention.... YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!

[NotYoCookiez]

Cool but would it be for all games?

[H2N]

Cool but would it be for all games?

We'll initially start with AL, and see how it goes, and then make a determination regarding PL/SL/DL.

[Azepeiete]

Yes yes yes yes yes!

GO DEVIANT MISFITS!

[octavos]

I see two sides to this coin...from what I have seen before...new guilds that need members and will leave to the best guilds on this new post by you guys. Hence why LB for guilds were not made for AL. (I hope no fights break out..."said noone ever"

But on the upside I want to know I want to see the commitment from members in there respective guild.

[H2N]

I see two sides to this coin...from what I have seen before...new guilds that need members and will leave to the best guilds on this new post by you guys. Hence why LB for guilds were not made for AL. (I hope no fights break out..."said noone ever"

But on the upside I want to know I want to see the commitment from members in there respective guild.

We hope that with all the various information that would be displayed, that there would be many options to consider in terms of which is the "best" guild. While the listing will be ordered by the guild's achievement points, the other data will probably be more indicative of the guild's true status. It would be difficult for a guild to be at the top in all the data categories that we plan on listing. For example, as we are working on the list, we see that the top guild by achievement points is only in the middle of the pack in CTF K/D. While the guild at the top in CTF K/D is about middle of the pack in achievement points. Which is the "better" guild? That will be up for each player to decide based on how each player views the importance of the various data categories that we plan on listing.

BTW, some of us devs quietly snickered at the CTF K/D. 75% of the top 50 guilds have a *NEGATIVE* CTF K/D (i.e. more D than K). The best CTF K/D out of the top 50 guilds is 1.8. The worst CTF K/D out of the top 50 guilds is -3.2 (i.e. 3.2 D for each K).

PvE K/D was more impressive. 45.9 best. 18.9 worst.

[jtst]

twinks become valuable for guilds, as a lot of them have 10 k/d or better

[Azepeiete]

Just wondering, would this be something to be implemented this season or is this in the distant future?

[H2N]

Just wondering, would this be something to be implemented this season or is this in the distant future?

Most likely this season (i.e. near future). It won't be seasonal, as none of the information used gets reset at the end of the season. It will be just a list that gets updated every week based on the guild's snapshot data at the time the report is run.

[H2N]

twinks become valuable for guilds, as a lot of them have 10 k/d or better

On the other side of the coin, twinks may not have as many achievement points, so the guild may not make the list because of not enough achievement points.

[TuMadreee]

Guild banners would be awesome, but of course there would probably be needed a limit of members in a guild.

[Wowsome]

awesome!

Most likely this season (i.e. near future). It won't be seasonal, as none of the information used gets reset at the end of the season. It will be just a list that gets updated every week based on the guild's snapshot data at the time the report is run.

every week? even more awesome!

cheers to DM!

[sc0tt nai1z]

Awesome. Should be fun to see who's on top.

[jtst]

On the other side of the coin, twinks may not have as many achievement points, so the guild may not make the list because of not enough achievement points.

If the amount of players in guild is unlimited, then you just need a lot of twinks to make it in achievement section too. Plus add non-death pve toons - and you get 'perfect guild', top of the tops.
Such system is fun and I'd like to see it implemented. What I am saying is, remember this statistics of best guilds now:
"75% of the top 50 guilds have a *NEGATIVE* CTF K/D (i.e. more D than K). The best CTF K/D out of the top 50 guilds is 1.8. The worst CTF K/D out of the top 50 guilds is -3.2 (i.e. 3.2 D for each K). PvE K/D was more impressive. 45.9 best. 18.9 worst."
and watch how the system will be abused later. Guilds with incredible stats would appear, though it's not the players that would made it so great, but folks that understand how to manipulate this.

Perhaps it's better to make order of top by average achievement points, not of AP sum. But the guild in top50 should have 30 or more players. In that way twinks with non-death toons will not occupy top places.

[iluvataris]

Sounds like a way to get those low level twinks to level up, and give new players a fighting chance. I love it!

Allthough in pvp im 22k kills to 16k deaths and guildless at the moment.

Check my thread in guilds.
If I sound like a good candidate
Reply with what perks your guild has maybe ill join you.
Looking for a guild to call home for the long hall.

[DocDoBig]

Wow nice!
DATA!!! *-*
Wouldn't it be easier to make Leaderboards instead though?

[GoodSyntax]

@H2N - Another nice data point would be an average of how long members have been with the guild. There are some guilds with incredible turnover, where people come in and leave later that day, while other guilds are stable and well managed. There definitely should be some metric on guild stability so that guilds on the LB are effectively the most stable.

The 1/3/7/15/30 day active % is a good metric to have and provides some insight on stability.

I really like this idea, and it can help those who are looking for a guild find one that is tailored to what they want - like PvP kills, PvE farming, stability, activity, etc.

Awesome idea, can't wait for it to be implemented!

[Deadroth]

Just put Rage Of Mages on first place and this will be OK!